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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThis is THE picture for Dems to use to demonstrate the abject cruelty of Ron DeSantis.
Last edited Sat Sep 17, 2022, 12:31 AM - Edit history (1)
Look at this little boy, sleeping in his mothers arms... the tiny hand... the shoeless little foot... the long dark eyelashes...
To Ron Desantis, this toddler is just a piece of subhuman garbage to be shuffled around and used as a prop in the governor's attempt to become dictator of the USA.
RevBrotherThomas
(838 posts)I think DeSantis has the potential to be FAR more dangerous than Trump.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)Sky Jewels
(7,085 posts)However, I am somewhat doubtful of his ability to form a nationwide cult of slobbering brainless zombies like the evil orange dumbfuck did.
Hieronymus Phact
(369 posts)he'll just inherit one.
orangecrush
(19,546 posts)Interesting comment.
Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)but, these people can sense just how evil he is ...
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)No,he simply fed their hate.
oldsoftie
(12,533 posts)Desantis just isn't trump even though he's far smarter than him.
LymphocyteLover
(5,644 posts)True Blue American
(17,984 posts)That is why honest brokers and banks have nothing to do with him. His whole life is a fake facade!
musclecar6
(1,686 posts)That describes him perfectly. Not smart, sneaky and conniving. As Michael Cohen said a ConMan liar and a cheat. Oh and also of course hardly worth mentioning, is an unrelenting pursuit to become a modern day totalitarian dictator along the lines of Hitler, Joseph Stalin,Saddam, Vladimir etc.
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)Trump can delay, con, cheat, but in the end he is a known criminal.
Get this, I read the other day that Melania told him not to ignore Covid, but as usual he would not listen. She is leading a miserable life just to stay wealthy.
NoMoreRepugs
(9,417 posts)certainot
(9,090 posts)discuss the stupidity and irresponsibility of their continuing to broadcast sports on, supporting, endorsing 20 x-limbaugh radio stations.
from fakenewsradio.org FLORIDA 20 Florida 10, Florida St. 4 Miami 2, South Florida 2, Central Florida 2 - (5 of 87 universities). at $1000/hr x 15 hours/day x 5 days 20 stations are worth $1.5 MILLION /week FREE for republicans and everything they push. that's worth more that anything a few billionaires can do for them.
those schools are supporting global warming denial in florida!
if any of those schools started a public discussion about this absurdity the others would have to follow. UF is a prime target for dems to freak out the GOP. advertisers would head for the hills.
oldsoftie
(12,533 posts)Stations with the biggest signals are going to carry the ball games. They also tend to be the same ones who carried Rush & the rest.
certainot
(9,090 posts)discussion.
dem leadership ignoring that these schools and pro teams support and endorse it is idiotic.
the schools need to reread their mission statements
oldsoftie
(12,533 posts)If it hasn't changed by now, it simply isn't going to.
Get a liberal billionaire to take over a high powered station & offer more money to carry games. The college will follow the money. Problem solved. But apparently its not that big a priority for any of them. I know plenty of people who will watch a game but listen to the radio call because its the home announcers. But they don't listen to the station any OTHER time. I always thought that was kinda silly especially when there's a lag between radio & TV
certainot
(9,090 posts)response - all it takes to chase off half or more advertisers is for there to be a public discussion. dems and liberals and certainly students have no fucking clue how much of this disaster comes out of those stations.
there was a very low level but long term activism at the uni of colorado to get it off denver's major limbaugh station and eventually the station moved limbaugh to a lesser station. it is possible the station did that to avert a public discussion that might get the denver pro athletes involved.
follow the money? radio pays little compared with TV rights. and those stations constantly work to reduce funding for public ed, attack teachers aNd profs, oppose debt deform, attack kneeling athletes, call BLM a terrorist org, etc.
most of those stations were broadcasting sports for those schools long before they were converted to KKK stations and they never reread their mission statements. republican alum love it and dem alum and faculty and students have no clue.
MissMillie
(38,553 posts)... they're a menace to America! (/sarcasm)
I hope they all get asylum and then become citizens... and vote w/ the folks that treated them well.
Picaro
(1,520 posts)DeSantis and my governor, Greg Abbot, talk about these people as if they are an invading army that will overwhelm U.S. They are furious that the federal government now expects that the federal authorities (U.S. Customs and Border Patrol) to obey the U.S. laws governing how we deal with refugees
During the Trump maladministration refugees were renamed illegal immigrants and the U.S. started refusing to allow potential refugees to petition for asylum as the law prescribes. They at first started taking the refugees and imprisoning them and splitting families up. When the outrage over these blatant crimes against humanity grew too loud the Trump administration came up with Title 42. Title 42, using Covid as a pretext, barred refugees from entering the country to petition for asylum and allowed for quick deportation/expulsion of those already here including asylum seekers. This forced thousands to wait at the Mexican border in places like Tijuana, Ciudad Juarez, Matamoros. They had to wait in Mexico.
Now the Biden administration has cancelled rule 42 for the most part.
So, now these two border governors are showing their true fascist colors.
They're now treating asylum seekers, refugees, desperate immigrants as sub humans who can be shipped around the country like freight. These pompous hate bags are showing the world just how good and Christian the current version of the Republican party is.
These are people. Refugees who are trying to find sanctuary where they can live and work and contribute to the society they live in.
Semi-fascist? No, I think these are full fascists. While I applaud my incredible president's calling these folks out I balk at any sugar coating. These people are full on fascists. They meet all the criteria.
Sanity Claws
(21,847 posts)Republicans during the Bush administration called asylum seekers illegals. It was wrong then and it is wrong now.
Former AG Gonzales once spoke up and said that people claiming asylum are not illegal. Only by crossing the border can you request asylum. Despite that, Fox and the other low lifes kept using the term.
Picaro
(1,520 posts)I was in no way trying to say that this is new.
I was one of those "extremists" that considered the Bush administration to be fully fascist. Dick Cheney was once quoted as saying the Constitution was just a "god damned piece of paper". I've been a little surprised to see his daughter stand so firm.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Most dont see the inner differences. At least most who would be refugees.
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)J3AC4
(58 posts)Desantis would do all he could to protect him if he was still a fetus.
But now that he is out of the womb he is a POS that nobody wants.
So when is the March on Miss Liberty?
After all, her pedestal includes that give me your tired, youre poor garbage that forces us to let all the riffraff in, right?
Gotta say, its really shameful. Its embarrassing. We are ALL from immigrant stock. Even if you can claim your ancestors came over on the Mayflower, youre STILL an heir of immigrants.
Thats supposed to be the cool thing about America. E pluribus unum. From many, one. Its just sad. Those new arrivals went through hell and probably literally high water to get here - to the land of their dreams, hoping to build a future for themselves and their children. Its disgraceful how theyre maligned. Really sad. And embarrassing.
llmart
(15,536 posts)In the past, immigrants helped to build this country. We have so much work we need to do on infrastructure, climate change projects, and even right now we need more people to work as baby boomers leave the workforce in massive numbers. Younger people are having fewer or no babies. Where do they think they'll get all the employees in the coming years? There are a lot of jobs that our own younger citizens won't do.
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)Sky Jewels
(7,085 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,912 posts)Sky Jewels
(7,085 posts)The people who participated in DeSantis' stunt obviously didn't care about their well-being.
jerseyjim
(129 posts)sop
(10,167 posts)to Venezuela.
TheBlackAdder
(28,189 posts).
There are better social programs, better education, better employment opportunities, and more compassion.
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The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)Flew them up there and dumped them off.
Yet when we ask them to help us pass immigration law they REFUSE.
czarjak
(11,269 posts)rubbersole
(6,688 posts)The magas are going to vote for your racist ass anyway. All your nazi stunts of the last few months are fodder for tv commercials against you.
These people aren't "illegals"...they are "Christian refugees". - John Fugelsang
lunatica
(53,410 posts)so why not for him. Hes going after his Trumpian bona fides. He even gonna try to outdo Trump soon, especially if this stunt doesnt work for him.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)Ive not heard anything. No pushback. Im sure that Ive missed this somehow. Did Vice President Harris say anything about those dropped near the residence?
True Blue American
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People welcomed them with them with open arms, fed them, gave them shelter, made arrangements for them to be helped. Hugged them, made them feel welcome.
That is what true Christians and Democrats stand for! A great lesson of what our Country is!
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)The Democrats need to be talking about the illegal kidnapping of the migrants by Abbott and DeSantis.
Or are you okay with two whacko governors lying to people to induce them to get on a plane?
My post had nothing to do with the good people who stepped up and helped once the plane and busses reached their destination.
LudwigPastorius
(9,139 posts)It's time for him to do the same with "DeSantis".
Orrex
(63,208 posts)If we waste even one second pretending that this will cost DeSantis politically in any way, then we're fools.
His racist base absolutely LOVES him for doing this, as will Trump's KKKult if DeSantis finds his way on to the 2024 ballot.
It is ridiculous to expect that these fully invested racist shitheads are going to come to their senses simply because they're shown a picture of the pure humanity of their victims. If anything, pictures like they above will reaffirm their racism, because they'll blame the mother for putting the child in that situation.
DeSantis will suffer no real blowback for this, and Dems will see no real gains from it.
Sky Jewels
(7,085 posts)so it might have an impact on some of them.
Orrex
(63,208 posts)About 99% of the "Independents" I've known in my life have "independently" voted Republican close to 100% of the time.
I'm sure that some true Independents exist, but I'm not confident that anything as trivial as human trafficking or obstruction of justice or outright treason can sway those brave persons of principle. Maybe the fall of Roe, if Kentucky is any indicator, but I'll wait to see wider results.
I'd love to be wrong.
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Sky Jewels
(7,085 posts)and people who aren't that politically engaged.
Bucky
(53,999 posts)Just sit & think about what they had to go through to get to this country. They're here to work and fulfill the American dream. But Ron DeSantis, the governor of a state may prosperous by refugees, thinks it's One Big Funny to commit fraud against them, jeopardize their legal standing, and deny them urgent medical care.
GreenWave
(6,736 posts)This thought could make things backfire and force both racist gubnuhs to spew their racist shit about illegals.
Blue Owl
(50,356 posts)if..fish..had..wings
(662 posts)Why hasn't ICE arrested him for violating immigration laws?
Why to these people keep openly breaking laws and NO ONE ARRESTS THEM.
Let him defend himself from jail.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,060 posts)The Federal Government provides $Millions to border states to deal with migrants. Biden should start sending that money to the states Abbot and Desantis are sending immigrants to.
Upthevibe
(8,042 posts)belpejic
(720 posts)I think that would seriously slow Ronnie's roll. At that point the best he could hope for is remaining a Fox News fixture, and not a national news one.
He's a grump and uncommunicative, and thus can't rile the rubes like Trump does. Take him out of the political picture and he reverts to the backbencher that he was always destined to be. They are both narcissistic, sociopathic aholes, but Ron never learned the charm part.