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3Hotdogs

(12,330 posts)
Sun Sep 18, 2022, 12:08 AM Sep 2022

Help settle an argument between me and my ex.

We're watching Patrick Stewart. He is star of a Brit series where he plays a Brit government consultant who's job it is to eliminate or at least, address dangers such as pandemics and global warming.

We both agree that Cap't Picard would be better suited to handle such emergencies than would Cap't. James Kirk.

I say that Spock would be a better "second" in such emergencies than would Data. Ex. says Data, because he has more information in is memory banks. Spock has the human flexibility to make a decision that could include intuition, although rarely used.


Help me win this one.

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Help settle an argument between me and my ex. (Original Post) 3Hotdogs Sep 2022 OP
Spock. FTW flying rabbit Sep 2022 #1
Spock flexing wins by a nose for me. Brainfodder Sep 2022 #2
The most important characters in any hierarchy are the first mates. cachukis Sep 2022 #3
Spock here, arguing with your ex is illogical. dem4decades Sep 2022 #4
You still speak to your ex? Bayard Sep 2022 #5
Depends what exactly needs handling HappyCynic Sep 2022 #6
Arguing over fictional characters? No wonder he's your ex. TreasonousBastard Sep 2022 #7
Nope. Worf. hamsterjill Sep 2022 #8
Here in Europe, our hands-down choice would be.......... DFW Sep 2022 #9
For the WIN if..fish..had..wings Sep 2022 #10
It has to be Data since you already settled on Picard FBaggins Sep 2022 #11

cachukis

(2,230 posts)
3. The most important characters in any hierarchy are the first mates.
Sun Sep 18, 2022, 12:16 AM
Sep 2022

Second fiddle, if you must. They temper the breathing.
Data is static, breathing dynamic. Spock has to breath and his breathing cycle influences the room.
His logic is dynamic.

HappyCynic

(1,407 posts)
6. Depends what exactly needs handling
Sun Sep 18, 2022, 12:48 AM
Sep 2022

Spock's humanity and flexibility would be better for handling the people side of the problem: persuading people, strategies for negotiations, etc.
Data's raw calculation and information access make him suited for the scientific part: gauging the likely success rates of solutions, feasibility of proposed technology and its uses including potential side effects, etc.

Ideally, both would be available. But if you had to choose only one, then determine if the biggest problems are the human factor or the scientific factor and select accordingly.

DFW

(54,295 posts)
9. Here in Europe, our hands-down choice would be..........
Sun Sep 18, 2022, 07:35 AM
Sep 2022

Last edited Sun Sep 18, 2022, 08:52 AM - Edit history (1)

Inspector Clouseau

That's why things are always so confused here.

FBaggins

(26,721 posts)
11. It has to be Data since you already settled on Picard
Sun Sep 18, 2022, 08:41 AM
Sep 2022

Spock better fills the gaps in Kirk’s abilities and character - while Data better aligns with Picard.

They were literally designed that way

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