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brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 10:23 AM Sep 2022

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott widens lead on Beto O'Rourke in new poll

Dallas Morning News

AUSTIN — Republican Gov. Greg Abbott has gained on Democrat Beto O’Rourke in the high-stakes race for Texas governor and now has a 9-point cushion, up from 7 points last month.

According to a new poll from The Dallas Morning News and the University of Texas at Tyler, Abbott leads O’Rourke 47% to 38%.

The poll, conducted Sept. 6-13, surveyed 1,268 registered voters and has a margin of error of plus or minus 2.9 percentage points.

Abbott’s recent flood of TV ads, which for weeks went unanswered, and voters’ slight rightward tilt on abortion, the border and crime may have helped the two-term incumbent build on a 46%-39% lead in August, two political scientists agreed.

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Texas Gov. Greg Abbott widens lead on Beto O'Rourke in new poll (Original Post) brooklynite Sep 2022 OP
Damn yankee87 Sep 2022 #1
I can't wait to ignore GenXer47 Sep 2022 #3
Ugh. MontanaMama Sep 2022 #4
I'm so sorry, MM - cilla4progress Sep 2022 #18
Yup... 2naSalit Sep 2022 #27
We should start to accumulate TX climate deniers into a database. roamer65 Sep 2022 #21
Golly blogslug Sep 2022 #2
I would certainly withhold donation money, and allocate it to more competitive races. brooklynite Sep 2022 #9
I will donate to my lost causes blogslug Sep 2022 #10
Thank you. hamsterjill Sep 2022 #15
..... obamanut2012 Sep 2022 #31
What "fix" is in? former9thward Sep 2022 #59
I'm guessing you don't live in Texas. hamsterjill Sep 2022 #60
Since I have not heard the "fix" is in from the TX Democratic party former9thward Sep 2022 #63
Well, the fix has a lot to do hamsterjill Sep 2022 #64
Gerrymandering doesn't affect Governors race forthemiddle Sep 2022 #70
One would think Beto trailing would be reason to donate more to O'Rourke, not less. PufPuf23 Sep 2022 #25
Keep in mind this was a registered voter survey jimfields33 Sep 2022 #5
1,268 voters? That's quite a sampling Raven123 Sep 2022 #6
There is nothing atypical about the sample size? tritsofme Sep 2022 #11
Thank you sir, may I have another? Initech Sep 2022 #7
I keep hoping that a Democratic tsunami will change Texas - surely there are walkingman Sep 2022 #8
the Latino vote is trending more and more Rethug, partly due to the number of Latino evangelicals Celerity Sep 2022 #40
That is so weird. I'll never understand how someone being an evangelical would walkingman Sep 2022 #43
more detail Celerity Sep 2022 #46
Wow Celerity, a very informative post - I would have never guessed. Not good news for Texans. walkingman Sep 2022 #51
Interesting..thx Demovictory9 Sep 2022 #65
This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Sep 2022 #41
28 years since last Democratic Governor bronxiteforever Sep 2022 #12
This! PortTack Sep 2022 #20
Very depressing Picaro Sep 2022 #13
I disagree about Beto not catching fire MagickMuffin Sep 2022 #28
They're not polling the young and newly registered voters blm Sep 2022 #14
This is MY hope. hamsterjill Sep 2022 #16
Exactly Native Sep 2022 #17
Let's see the polling when Abbott's latest trick with immigrants comes into the picture. SheilaAnn Sep 2022 #19
His Polling #'s Will Rise. This Is TX. SoCalDavidS Sep 2022 #23
Damn. We have got to get the Christian right out of that state! Initech Sep 2022 #52
They published polling on that yesterday pinkstarburst Sep 2022 #29
What solutions?! Mad_Machine76 Sep 2022 #35
Yes, but Dems need to address the border issue. hamsterjill Sep 2022 #36
What does a "secure border" Mad_Machine76 Sep 2022 #48
I'm not sure what a secure border looks like. hamsterjill Sep 2022 #50
+1000 XanaDUer2 Sep 2022 #62
Dallas Morning News and UT at Tyler bluecollar2 Sep 2022 #22
Polls SoCalDavidS Sep 2022 #24
Yes DavidDvorkin Sep 2022 #26
A Democrat can win in Texas, just not Beto Polybius Sep 2022 #30
I am standing with Beto to the bitter end. hamsterjill Sep 2022 #32
Polls aren't meant to tell you when to throw in the towel. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2022 #33
Polls represent a single snapshot in time. hamsterjill Sep 2022 #38
Nobody said you should...but better to engage with a realistic understanding of the situation. brooklynite Sep 2022 #34
I don't pay attention to polls. hamsterjill Sep 2022 #37
Why? brooklynite Sep 2022 #39
So you are essentially saying that no one should support Beto. hamsterjill Sep 2022 #42
Financially? No they shouldn't brooklynite Sep 2022 #44
Thank you for your opinion. hamsterjill Sep 2022 #49
He has some sort of personal issue with Beto... W_HAMILTON Sep 2022 #53
Understood. hamsterjill Sep 2022 #54
Money can turn a campaign around, too. My money, my choice. Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2022 #45
It is indeed your choice. I'm suggesting the choice be made rationally, not emotionally. brooklynite Sep 2022 #47
If you only bet on sure things, you get fewer choices and, eventually, a GOP majority. Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2022 #55
You completely misunderstand. I NEVER bet on sure things. brooklynite Sep 2022 #56
Thank you for the clarification. I did misunderstand your position. Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2022 #57
".....and voters' slight rightward tilt on abortion.." Mad_Machine76 Sep 2022 #58
Kansas polls also reflected a slight rightward tilt on abortion before the referendum. Sky Jewels Sep 2022 #67
F'em. And my fellow georgians if they follow suit. ecstatic Sep 2022 #61
The stunts are working. Damn it!! nt Samrob Sep 2022 #66
As much as I like Beto and would be happy Mr.Bill Sep 2022 #68
This is what is being run lately Lurker Deluxe Sep 2022 #69

MontanaMama

(24,722 posts)
4. Ugh.
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 10:35 AM
Sep 2022

My little blue city has been overrun with Texans. License plates don’t lie. They’re everywhere.

2naSalit

(102,793 posts)
27. Yup...
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 12:45 PM
Sep 2022

Montana is their first choice for relocation and I'm sure our insurrectionist governor and legislature are encouraging them.

roamer65

(37,953 posts)
21. We should start to accumulate TX climate deniers into a database.
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 11:47 AM
Sep 2022

That eventually will enable us to block them from northward migration.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
9. I would certainly withhold donation money, and allocate it to more competitive races.
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 10:51 AM
Sep 2022

hamsterjill

(17,577 posts)
15. Thank you.
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 11:15 AM
Sep 2022

I don’t believe in polls. I’m mot sure whether Beto will win or not (because the fix is probably already in), but I don’t think we should give up.

Makes me wonder about some comments made on DU. Hmmm….

hamsterjill

(17,577 posts)
60. I'm guessing you don't live in Texas.
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 08:19 AM
Sep 2022

Am I right? Or you wouldn’t need to ask that question.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
63. Since I have not heard the "fix" is in from the TX Democratic party
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 05:48 PM
Sep 2022

I am wondering what it is.

hamsterjill

(17,577 posts)
64. Well, the fix has a lot to do
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 05:53 PM
Sep 2022

With voter suppression and gerrymandering. I'm not sure that the Texas Democratic party would admit to there being one, but anyone who lives in Texas is going to understand.

Republicans don't necessarily play fair down here, you know.

forthemiddle

(1,459 posts)
70. Gerrymandering doesn't affect Governors race
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 06:55 PM
Sep 2022

Voter suppression is always a fear, but let’s face it, Texas is still Red.

PufPuf23

(9,852 posts)
25. One would think Beto trailing would be reason to donate more to O'Rourke, not less.
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 12:19 PM
Sep 2022

If Abbott is flooding media with ads etc., a rational response is to increase the budget for more money for Beto to compete.

 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
5. Keep in mind this was a registered voter survey
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 10:37 AM
Sep 2022

For some reason they haven’t transitioned to likely voter yet. That could change things.

walkingman

(10,864 posts)
8. I keep hoping that a Democratic tsunami will change Texas - surely there are
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 10:44 AM
Sep 2022

not that many assholes in this State?? I'm beginning to think there is something in the water.

Celerity

(54,407 posts)
40. the Latino vote is trending more and more Rethug, partly due to the number of Latino evangelicals
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 03:33 PM
Sep 2022

exploding.

I have posted extensively on this for some time.

walkingman

(10,864 posts)
43. That is so weird. I'll never understand how someone being an evangelical would
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 03:51 PM
Sep 2022

make them prone to vote for a party that basically has an ideology that is racist, xenophobic, misogynistic, and just plain mean and nasty. Oh wait, that fits the definition of an evangelical. WOW.

Celerity

(54,407 posts)
46. more detail
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 03:58 PM
Sep 2022

The Latino population is drifting more and more to the RW as so many are going fundie evangelical that they are now the fastest growing ethnic group for evangelicals, and these converts are far more conservative and likely to vote Rethug.

For the first time ever, less than half of US Hispanics are now Catholic, the first ever for any large Hispanic population on the planet. Let that sink in.

In 2014, 11% of US evangelicals were Latino. 2 or 3 years ago it was up to 19%. Likely easily over 20% now. Thousands of small evangelical seed churches are being systematically set up by Latinos. The whole thing is being driven by the younger cohorts, not a bunch of ageing Boomers who are deciding to go hardcore con in religion and politics.


The Fastest-Growing Group of American Evangelicals

A new generation of Latino Protestants is poised to transform our religious and political landscapes.

https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2021/07/latinos-will-determine-future-american-evangelicalism/619551/

https://archive.ph/O3tMa



In 2007, when Obe and Jacqueline Arellano were in their mid-20s, they moved from the suburbs of Chicago to Aurora, Illinois, with the dream of starting a church. They chose Aurora, a midsize city with about 200,000 residents, mostly because about 40 percent of its population is Latino. Obe, a first-generation Mexican American pastor, told me, “We sensed God wanted us there.” By 2010, the couple had “planted a church,” the Protestant term for starting a brand-new congregation. This summer, the Arellanos moved to Long Beach, California, to pastor at Light & Life Christian Fellowship, which has planted 20 churches in 20 years. Their story is at once singular and representative of national trends: Across the United States, more Latino pastors are founding churches than ever before, a trend that challenges conventional views of evangelicalism and could have massive implications for the future of American politics.

Latinos are leaving the Catholic Church and converting to evangelical Protestantism in increased numbers, and evangelical organizations are putting more energy and resources toward reaching potential Latino congregants. Latinos are the fastest-growing group of evangelicals in the country, and Latino Protestants, in particular, have higher levels of religiosity—meaning they tend to go to church, pray, and read the Bible more often than both Anglo Protestants and Latino Catholics, according to Mark Mulder, a sociology professor at Calvin University and a co-author of Latino Protestants in America. At the same time, a major demographic shift is under way. Arellano, who supports Light & Life’s Spanish-speaking campus, Luz y Vida, told me, “By 2060, the Hispanic population in the United States is expected to grow from 60 million to over 110 million.” None of this is lost on either Latino or Anglo evangelical leadership: They know they need to recruit and train Latino pastors if they’re going to achieve what Arellano describes as “our vision to see that the kingdom of God will go forward and reach more people and get into every nook and cranny of society.”

The stakes of intensified Latino evangelicalism are manifold, and they depend on what kind of evangelicalism prevails across the country. The term evangelical has become synonymous with a voting bloc of Anglo cultural conservatives, but in general theological terms, evangelicals are Christians who believe in the supremacy of the Bible and that they are compelled to spread its gospel. Some Christians who identify with the theological definition fit the political stereotype, but others don’t. That’s true among evangelical Latino leaders too—they have very different interpretations of how the teachings of Jesus Christ call them to act. Every pastor I spoke with told me that they want to see more Latino pastors in leadership positions, and they each had a different take on what new Latino leadership could mean for the future of evangelicalism. When we spoke over the phone, Samuel Rodriguez, the president of the National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference and the pastor of New Season Worship, in Sacramento, California, told me, “We’re not extending our hand out, asking, ‘Can you help us plant churches?’ We’re coming to primarily white denominations and going, ‘You all need our help.’ This is a flipping of the script.”

Although Latino congregations are too diverse to characterize in shorthand, one of the few declarative statements that can be made about Latino Protestants is a fact borne out with numbers: They are likelier than Latino Catholics to vote Republican. The expansion of Latino evangelicalism bucks assumptions that Democrats and progressives will soon have a clear advantage as the white church declines and the Hispanic electorate rises. “Some counterintuitive things that have happened [in our national politics] would make more sense if we better understood the faith communities that exist within Latinx Protestantism,” Mulder told me over the phone, alluding to the differing perspectives Latinos hold on many issues, including immigration, and how more Latinos voted for former President Donald Trump in 2020 than in 2016. According to the Public Religion Research Institute, Protestant affiliation correlated more with Hispanic approval of Trump’s job in office than age or gender.

snip

excellent longform article, much more at the top link



There is a link in the article that references the Religious Landscape Study by Pew

in 2014 11% of evangelicals were Latino.



Now, the latest numbers from Pew show it is up to 19% (in less that 7 years)

It is likely over 20% now and growing rapidly, driven by the younger gens,

less than half of Latinos in the US are now Catholic, which is pretty amazing

https://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/racial-and-ethnic-composition/latino/





also, there is this:




The Newest Texans Are Not Who You Think They Are

The record influx of recent arrivals from all over might be exactly what the state needs. That includes Californians. (And no, they’re not turning Texas blue.)

https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/newest-texans-who-are-they/



snip

Whatever their ethnicities, Californians are coming to Texas in much higher numbers than are migrants from any other state. In 2019 about 42 percent of net domestic immigrants came from California. For all the hyperventilating about Californians ruining certain Texas cities, however, the fastest-growing parts of the state owe much of their growth to Texans shuffling around from city to city. In fact, a primary reason Texas is growing so fast is that we tend to stick around as compared to natives of other states, meaning there’s less out-migration to offset the in-migration. About 82 percent of people born in Texas still live here, making it the so-called stickiest state in the country.

Bill Fulton, director of the Kinder Institute for Urban Research at Rice University, in Houston, points out that “basically all the population growth is in the Texas Triangle,” the relatively tight space defined by the Dallas–Fort Worth, Houston, and Austin–San Antonio regions. He recently wrote a book with former San Antonio mayor Henry Cisneros, “and we found that the Texas Triangle favorably compared to virtually all other mega-regions in the U.S., including Southern California and the Northeast Corridor. It is a true economic powerhouse.”

That’s just one of the ways Texas’s population growth is changing the landscape. In the booming cities, Fulton points out, the influx of a young professional class has led to a flowering of high-rise and mid-rise apartment buildings, as well as multiunit home lots. At the same time, suburbs have become more diverse than they were in the days of white flight from urban neighborhoods, in the sixties, in part because today gentrifying city neighborhoods are edging out non-white residents. Rural and small-town Texas, meanwhile, is shrinking. In fact, 142 of the state’s 254 counties are declining in population, some of them precipitously. Schleicher County, between San Angelo and Sonora, lost 29 percent of its population in ten years, the steepest drop in the state.

The diversification of the suburbs could fundamentally alter the political map by changing reliable Republican standbys to perennial toss-ups. Dying small towns carry less electoral weight. Gerrymandering of districts, now pursued as avidly by Republicans as it once was by Democrats, will continue to redraw electoral maps to maintain the current political order. But at some point, likely soon, the old assumptions will simply no longer hold true, and the keys to winning Texas will change.





walkingman

(10,864 posts)
51. Wow Celerity, a very informative post - I would have never guessed. Not good news for Texans.
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 04:17 PM
Sep 2022

Response to walkingman (Reply #8)

bronxiteforever

(11,212 posts)
12. 28 years since last Democratic Governor
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 11:04 AM
Sep 2022

If it is a state that favors interstate vigilantes hunting women seeking to exercise their reproductive rights, kidnapping refugee children and dropping them off miles from help and
Investigating the parents of trans kids, I don’t see how we can ever win because the majority of the population is an odious collection of bullies and misogynistic, racist slime balls.

Picaro

(2,393 posts)
13. Very depressing
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 11:09 AM
Sep 2022

This is intended to be depressing and it is.

Beto just isn’t catching fire here. Abbot is a spectacularly bad governor and is also a fascist.

While I will vote and vote democratic the various attack ads seem to be having 0 impact.

It seems obvious that Texas voters don’t care that after multiple mass shootings Abbot supported and signed a bill getting rid of any licensing requirements for handguns. They also don’t seem to care about reproductive freedom. Or the completely botched response to a cold snap in February of 21 that killed hundreds. And these polled voters don’t seem to be worried about the illegal use of state power to persecute trans children.

The voters also seem to accept that their AG, Ken Paxton, has a number of felony charges against him. But he has been very successful in dodging any deposition on a open and shut securities fraud case.

Arghhhh!

MagickMuffin

(18,318 posts)
28. I disagree about Beto not catching fire
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 12:50 PM
Sep 2022


I watch his town hall videos and the venues are always packed. There’s a lot of republicans that say they are voting for Beto.


Block walk, call centers can use all our help getting people registered and voting. We can do this.


hamsterjill

(17,577 posts)
16. This is MY hope.
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 11:16 AM
Sep 2022

I’m an old jackass and I’m hoping the younger generation saves us.

pinkstarburst

(2,020 posts)
29. They published polling on that yesterday
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 01:51 PM
Sep 2022

per KXAN 52% of respondents approved of migrants being bussed to other cities. 30 something percent disapproved.

The trouble with Abbott/Beto is that while many hate Abbott's position on guns and abortion and everything else, they agree with his position on border control and currently nothing is being done to secure the border, which is causing harm to border communities. Beto is the leader we need. I truly wish the current administration would come up with solutions to secure the border but that hasn't happened and so much as I hate it, I don't think Beto (or any democrat) can win at this point.

Mad_Machine76

(24,957 posts)
35. What solutions?!
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 03:11 PM
Sep 2022

Republicans don’t want to do anything to help bc they want to keep it a wedge issue indefinitely.

hamsterjill

(17,577 posts)
36. Yes, but Dems need to address the border issue.
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 03:18 PM
Sep 2022

Anyone living anywhere near the border in Texas knows it’s not secure. The Administration needs to address that fact; not keep insisting that it is secure.

Mad_Machine76

(24,957 posts)
48. What does a "secure border"
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 04:05 PM
Sep 2022

as opposed to a "not secure" border even look like? Right wingers throw that term around all the time but I have no idea what they mean by it. 0 successful border crossings?

hamsterjill

(17,577 posts)
50. I'm not sure what a secure border looks like.
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 04:16 PM
Sep 2022

But it does NOT look like - - -


Schools locked down several times per month because border patrol agents are chasing armed people who have crossed the border illegally and are driving through neighborhoods bailing out in all directions.

It doesn’t look like ranchers coming home to find their fences cut so that people who have crossed illegally can trespass upon their land and allow livestock to get out through the cut fences. There have been horses and bulls that weigh massive amounts let loose on highways. Not only is it a danger to the animals but a car traveling 60 miles an hour at night that hits one of those animals can cause a lot of damage and injury to occupants.

It doesn’t look like the numerous pictures and videos of people who have crossed the border illegally dying in tractor trailer rigs because the smugglers who they paid to get them across the border left them there to die and someone is tasked with finding them.

It doesn’t look like babies that are found abandoned because a coyote has decided that a crying child is a liability, or a small child can’t keep up with the pace.

No, a secure border does NOT look like that. It would be a positive thing if the Administration addressed these issues.

 

SoCalDavidS

(10,599 posts)
24. Polls
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 12:11 PM
Sep 2022

Seems like when they favor our candidate, they’re A+ and wonderful. When they don’t, lots of excuses as to why they’re unreliable.

Polybius

(21,900 posts)
30. A Democrat can win in Texas, just not Beto
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 02:15 PM
Sep 2022

I know he's a man of honor, but he needs to hold his nose and move to the right. Just say something conservative once in a while. It's Texas.

hamsterjill

(17,577 posts)
32. I am standing with Beto to the bitter end.
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 03:01 PM
Sep 2022

For the families of the victims in Uvalde; and

For women everywhere.

The chips will fall where they may, but I’m not throwing in the towel based on some stupid poll.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
33. Polls aren't meant to tell you when to throw in the towel.
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 03:05 PM
Sep 2022

No one posts these things because they want you to give up and go home.

If we're not doing well, then we need to know about it before election day.

hamsterjill

(17,577 posts)
38. Polls represent a single snapshot in time.
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 03:25 PM
Sep 2022

Elections are fluid and one never knows until the bitter end.

I don’t know if Beto will win or lose, but I see a helluva lot bigger crowds at his rallies than I’ve seen before.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
34. Nobody said you should...but better to engage with a realistic understanding of the situation.
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 03:06 PM
Sep 2022

hamsterjill

(17,577 posts)
37. I don't pay attention to polls.
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 03:22 PM
Sep 2022

But your post #9 in this thread was concerning to me…for a brief nano second.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
39. Why?
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 03:26 PM
Sep 2022

Assuming you have finite resources, every dollar you give to a campaign that isn't competitive is a dollar you didn't give to a campaign that is, and we need to win the competitive ones. Feeling virtuous is valueless if we lose to the Republicans.

hamsterjill

(17,577 posts)
42. So you are essentially saying that no one should support Beto.
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 03:50 PM
Sep 2022

Because he’s behind in a poll that you found and posted, and you think he’s no longer competitive?

Sorry, I don’t buy that.

I’ll continue to support whoever I feel like supporting and I hope all DU’ers do the same.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
44. Financially? No they shouldn't
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 03:55 PM
Sep 2022

Not at this point. Is that "cold and heartless"? You bet it is. That's the situation we find ourselves in.

Republicans won't be investing millions in knocking off safe Democratic Governors; they'll target the vulnerable ones. Unless you have data that shows otherwise, I don't see Abbott as being vulnerable.

W_HAMILTON

(10,333 posts)
53. He has some sort of personal issue with Beto...
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 05:19 PM
Sep 2022

...and has for awhile now.

Same goes for Fetterman (even though he at least claims to support him now).

I have my thoughts as to why, and it certainly doesn't include electability.

hamsterjill

(17,577 posts)
54. Understood.
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 05:30 PM
Sep 2022

There are posters on DU who believe they are “in the know” and drop names on a regular basis. That has always bugged me.

There is a definite agenda with these types. For months, it was Andrew Cuomo. Now, Cuomo is what Cuomo is, but it got to the point that anyone should have been able to see that there was a very specific agenda. And then, Letecia James didn’t even run for Governor…if you get my drift.

I have to wonder if these posters are so knowledgeable and connected, why they waste time on a message board.

Thanks for your reply. Glad to see that more people are catching on.





Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
55. If you only bet on sure things, you get fewer choices and, eventually, a GOP majority.
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 05:35 PM
Sep 2022

50 states.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
56. You completely misunderstand. I NEVER bet on sure things.
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 05:47 PM
Sep 2022

I won't give to a SAFE D candidate at all. And in my model, a LIKELY D seat with a lot of money scores much lower. I'm targeting tossups where money is most useful.

And yes, sometimes its worth investing in a reach. Texas isn't one of them.

Mad_Machine76

(24,957 posts)
58. ".....and voters' slight rightward tilt on abortion.."
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 10:11 PM
Sep 2022

In Texas or in general?! They LIKE SB8?!

 

Sky Jewels

(9,148 posts)
67. Kansas polls also reflected a slight rightward tilt on abortion before the referendum.
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 05:56 PM
Sep 2022

Didn't turn out that way.

I'm not expecting much out of Texas, but I'm still holding out a bit of hope that we can all be surprised on Nov. 8.

ecstatic

(35,075 posts)
61. F'em. And my fellow georgians if they follow suit.
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 08:28 AM
Sep 2022

I'll have zero sympathy for what comes next, especially in Texas where it's been a depressing clown show for quite some time. Enjoy your ineffective, cowardly police and daily massacres. I'm sure your closed off border, open carry, and abortion bounties makes it all worth it. I'm done.

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
68. As much as I like Beto and would be happy
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 06:01 PM
Sep 2022

to have him be governor of my state, he committed Texas political suicide when he said in a nationally televised debate, "Yes, we are coming for your AR-15s". That was a huge mistake, even though I agree with it.

Lurker Deluxe

(1,085 posts)
69. This is what is being run lately
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 06:53 PM
Sep 2022


Whatever your opinion on this issue ... that comes off as bad. And this shit has just begun.
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