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Atticus

(15,124 posts)
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 03:08 PM Sep 2022

It would be helpful to many of us if someone with reliable information could explain what is

and what is not involved in the continued attention to the "Hunter Biden situation".

My understanding is that there is "no there there" and that there is no credible evidence of any wrongdoing by either President Biden or his son, but I have not followed the vague accusations closely.

Is this just more right-wing bs or not?

Thanks to any who can respond with the facts.

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It would be helpful to many of us if someone with reliable information could explain what is (Original Post) Atticus Sep 2022 OP
Not hearing it much anymore but isn't it just a puke slogan? pwb Sep 2022 #1
Most of it's pure BS. Elessar Zappa Sep 2022 #2
Right wing bullshit....why even bring it up? Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #3
I thought that maybe responding to those who mention it with "That's bullshit and here's why---" Atticus Sep 2022 #10
Don't engage. It just spreads it. There never waswas Demsrule86 Sep 2022 #19
No snark taken. We're good. nt Atticus Sep 2022 #20
I agree with you OLDMDDEM Sep 2022 #4
if there was anything there, the rogue prosecutor would have filed an indictment..... getagrip_already Sep 2022 #5
Thank you for that. It makes sense to me. nt Atticus Sep 2022 #11
I understand why you are asking. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2022 #6
Republicans don't need any there there. They just need a target. Hunter has the same name as Pres. spanone Sep 2022 #7
Billy Carter, Part Deux Effete Snob Sep 2022 #8
Why are you remotely unsure if this is bullshit? Voltaire2 Sep 2022 #9
I clearly stated that it is my understanding that there is "no there there". I asked for facts to Atticus Sep 2022 #13
Here's a Slate article from today TheProle Sep 2022 #12
Thank you. After reading that, I feel like I understand that, despite months of "research" and Atticus Sep 2022 #15
You bet. TheProle Sep 2022 #17
Hunter Biden -IS- under investigation (by Garland's DOJ) brooklynite Sep 2022 #14
I'm with you Catherine Vincent Sep 2022 #16
You can look at Hunter's roody Sep 2022 #18

pwb

(12,660 posts)
1. Not hearing it much anymore but isn't it just a puke slogan?
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 03:13 PM
Sep 2022

Guess it just didn't stick to the wall, with thinking people.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
10. I thought that maybe responding to those who mention it with "That's bullshit and here's why---"
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 04:06 PM
Sep 2022

would be better than just "That's bullshit!"

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
19. Don't engage. It just spreads it. There never waswas
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 05:38 PM
Sep 2022

Last edited Tue Sep 20, 2022, 06:20 PM - Edit history (1)

was anything. The guy in Connecticut investigated it and nothing. Saying not true works best. I didn’t mean to be snarky.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
5. if there was anything there, the rogue prosecutor would have filed an indictment.....
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 03:19 PM
Sep 2022

The reugs are calling for a special counsel because that office has virtually unlimited powers to investigate, and it would breathe new life into a dead case.

In order for there to be a sp, the AG would have to acknowledge that either he doesn't have the resources, or there is an inherent conflict of interest within the doj.

Neither of those really applies here. HB is a private citizen and the doj can easily handle any case that may be there, without conflict.

Eliot Rosewater

(34,285 posts)
6. I understand why you are asking.
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 03:20 PM
Sep 2022

I think it is like the Clinton "WhiteWater" alleged scandal. Where as I recall at issue was a real estate deal. Nothing was shown that the Clinton's profited in anyway.

Jared Kushner got a check for TWO BILLION DOLLARS, DAYS AFTER leaving his OFFICIAL POSITION in the WH.

This was after trump invited KGB into his office while kicking out our journalists. I could go on.

I am sure little to nothing happened with Hunter, but if the WORST thing he is accused of happened:

a. he is NOT in the WH and never has been

b. it is a FRACTION of the crimes we KNOW the trump cabal committed

America is broken and proof of that is Hunter gets as much press as the real criminals. That we have to know the answer to your question, and we do, is proof of how broken our society is.

spanone

(141,609 posts)
7. Republicans don't need any there there. They just need a target. Hunter has the same name as Pres.
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 03:23 PM
Sep 2022

Trump went all the way to Ukraine to get dirt on Hunter.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
8. Billy Carter, Part Deux
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 03:55 PM
Sep 2022

Same shit, different day. Nobody picks their fucked up family members.







His sister was something of a weirdo, too.

For those who don't remember, President Carter's sister was an evangelist who purported to "save" porn publisher Larry Flynt after his shooting....



https://www.grunge.com/928060/larry-flynts-unexpected-connection-to-president-jimmy-carters-sister/

Religion is generally thought of as a lifetime commitment. However, Flynt's commitment to Evangelical Christianity seems to have only lasted a few months.

Writing in Columbus Monthly, Sheldon Zoldan, who worked in Flynt's organization for a time in the 1970s, claimed that Flynt's relationship with Carter-Stapleton may have been a part of a long con. "She thinks she's converting me. But I'm really converting her," Zoldan quoted Flynt as saying. "Neither converted the other, at least not permanently," Zoldan later added.


Atticus

(15,124 posts)
13. I clearly stated that it is my understanding that there is "no there there". I asked for facts to
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 04:15 PM
Sep 2022

back that up.

If that amount to being "remotely unsure" I plead guilty. I try to distinguish between what I believe and what I know.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
15. Thank you. After reading that, I feel like I understand that, despite months of "research" and
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 04:27 PM
Sep 2022

breathless click-bait accusations, NO ONE has been able to show that there was even a tiny bit of "there" there.

Thank you again.

TheProle

(3,980 posts)
17. You bet.
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 04:46 PM
Sep 2022

Best defense is a good offense, and we should never be threatened by information.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
14. Hunter Biden -IS- under investigation (by Garland's DOJ)
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 04:18 PM
Sep 2022

In December 2020, Biden made a public announcement via his attorney that his tax affairs are under federal criminal investigation. The New York Times and CNN, citing sources familiar with the investigation, described the investigation as having started in late 2018 and being related to potential violations of tax and money laundering laws and his business dealings in foreign countries, principally China. The Wall Street Journal reported that Biden had provided legal and consulting services that generated foreign-earned income, citing a Senate Republicans' report that says millions of dollars in wire transfers from entities linked to Chinese energy tycoon Ye Jianming were paying for such services. The New York Times reported that according to people familiar with the inquiry, FBI investigators had been unable to establish sufficient evidence for a prosecution of potential money laundering crimes, including after the seizure of a laptop purportedly belonging to Biden, and so the investigation progressed onto tax issues. The Times reported in May 2022 that Hollywood attorney and writer Kevin Morris, who has become an influential adviser/confidant and now financier to Biden, lent him more than $2 million to pay back taxes and support his family.

The New York Times reported in March 2022 that since 2018 Biden and possibly others had been under investigation by federal prosecutors in Delaware, with a grand jury convened to subpoena and hear evidence. The investigation examined payments and gifts Biden or his associates had received from foreign interests and whether Biden had violated the law by not registering as a lobbyist under the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA). The Times reported it had acquired emails that were authenticated by people familiar with them and the investigation that appeared to come from a laptop belonging to Biden. One April 2014 email, written by Biden to his business partner as their work with Burisma was about to begin, noted that his father, then the vice president who would soon visit Kyiv, should "be characterized as part of our advice and thinking—but what he will say and do is out of our hands". The email also stated that Burisma officials "need to know in no uncertain terms that we will not and cannot intervene directly with domestic policymakers, and that we need to abide by FARA and any other U.S. laws in the strictest sense across the board". Biden wrote that his father's visit "could be a really good thing or it could end up creating too great an expectation. We need to temper expectations regarding that visit." He also wrote that his employer, the law firm Boies Schiller Flexner, could help Burisma through "direct discussions at state, energy and NSC". Other emails showed Biden and his business partner discussing inviting foreign business associates, including a Burisma executive, to attend an April 2015 dinner in Washington, where the vice president would stop by.

A July 2022 report from CNN authenticated emails which showed that Biden was struggling with large debt and overdue tax bills.

Federal investigators were also examining the lobbying firm Blue Star Strategies, which Burisma retained while Biden sat on its board, for possible illegal lobbying of American officials. There was no indication Biden was a subject of the investigation. Blue Star employees said in Senate testimony that Biden was included in emails about the firm's work but that he was not particularly involved. One of the firm's co-founders said Biden did not direct its work. Blue Star's work came after Burisma's owner was criticized by the United States State Department, and the firm's founders testified the firm had merely approached officials to determine the government's views of Burisma.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden#Investigations

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