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Nevilledog

(51,197 posts)
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 09:24 PM Sep 2022

Josh Marshall: You Must Watch This New DeSantis Explanation




https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/you-must-watch-this-new-desantis-explanation

This new video of Ron DeSantis’s 10th explanation of who he was funding in Texas really has to be seen to be believed. (Video below.) He says that he can’t ship migrants from Florida, as the state legislature authorized money to do, because there aren’t enough migrants coming into the state. There’s no “mass movement”. It’s just one or two people at a time driving to Florida. There’s no way to deal with that efficiently because there aren’t enough people. (Needless to say, however people are entering the state, if the state is overrun you just pick them up locally.) But, he says, he has “intelligence” operatives in Texas and they have learned that from “30% to 40%” of migrants in Texas intend to come to Florida.

In other words, there’s a tidal wave of people apparently about to come. Just not yet. Follow? Good.

So what to do? The most efficient way to deal with this is to go to Texas, profile people who seem likely to later come to Florida and fly them to states run by Democrats. That means “the chance they end up in Florida is much less.”

I guess if you want to be really, really generous you might say that people might be less willing to get bamboozled into being flown north if they’re already in Florida where they want to be as opposed to in Texas. But I think it goes without saying that the cost and inefficiency of the DeSantis plan is great enough to eliminate any benefit. And also: if you hoodwink migrants into going to Boston they can also just get on a bus to go to Florida. San Antonio to Miami is almost as far as Boston to Miami.

The barbarity of DeSantis’s actions should not obscure the hilarity of what is clearly an after the fact explanation of what happened and why? We can be pretty confident that the reason he’s resorting to this explanation is because he really, really doesn’t want to discuss who he’s working with in Texas. What individuals? What activist groups? Again, the explanation is absurd on its face. There’s no mass migration of migrants into Florida. So to move them at scale you need to get them in Texas and send them north. So they don’t end up in Texas.

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underpants

(182,877 posts)
1. They haven't gotten there yet?
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 09:34 PM
Sep 2022

They “had people” on the border? Still these people trying to get in are used to walking. You’d think 30-40% would have gotten there by now.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,414 posts)
3. Another sinister aspect of this is that people who need help won't trust those who try.
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 01:54 AM
Sep 2022

These folks need guidance from people who know the red tape they have to go through. DeSatan's fraud instills fear and distrust.

onethatcares

(16,184 posts)
5. Ironically, he's standing behind a sign
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 08:23 AM
Sep 2022

that says "Family Focused Tax Relief"

acting like he paid for the plane out of his own pocket.

Crikey, if we get anymore tax relief in this state we'll get checks directly from him as income tax rebates. (sarcasm)

He got all huffy at the end of that conference and wanted to know what the reporter asking questions would do.

Of course he attacked the current President while doing so.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. Also ironically, FL has lots of Cuban refugees he could send to MA.
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 10:47 AM
Sep 2022

Voters among FL's important Cuban American demographic won't miss that he hasn't.

Sad but true, conservative Hispanics tend to be as opposed to immigration as anyone else, including FL's Cubans (most of whom are also white).

Notably, DeSantis AND Abbott identified their victims up front as coming from Central and South America.

This seemingly ridiculous business of FL paying to kidnap migrants in TX is probably intended as a giant dog whistle of reassurance and alliance with "strongly anti-immigration-other-than-Cuban" Cuban Americans.

This reminder about FL's ready supply of victims was posted as one of the Twitter post replies:





gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
10. This is where I keep coming back
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 11:24 AM
Sep 2022

It's not like DeSantis is this unstoppable political juggernaut. He won election by a very thin margin in 2018. In four years, what has he done, what has he accomplished, that would draw more voters to his cause? He'll be "former governor DeSantis" if Florida Democrats can get their act together.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. DeSantis's strength is as a potential tRump replacement
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 11:56 AM
Sep 2022

who is currently pursuing the same far-right authoritarian barbarism as governor of FL.

Those who voted for tRump have demonstrated that they will vote for, so far, ANYTHING to oppose Democrats. Including for continuation of crimes against humanity, mostly targeted at Hispanic/Latino immigrants. And he's been dramatically and horrifyingly destructive of liberal principles and practices over the past four years. Can't say he hasn't come through.

That includes, again, the previously unengaged Hispanic and Cuban Floridians who kept Florida red by voting for the first time to elect/reelect tRump and FL's Republicans.

I certainly hope you're right, though, that more are wobbly this time than in 2020 when tRump himself was running. They have many genuine reasons to worry.

Grins

(7,228 posts)
9. "30% to 40%" of migrants want to get out of TEXAS!
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 11:13 AM
Sep 2022
(Desantis) says he has “intelligence” operatives in Texas and they have learned that from “30% to 40%” of migrants in Texas intend to come to Florida."


Translation: Get me the hell out of Texas!!!

A HERETIC I AM

(24,377 posts)
11. One of the more heavily used bus routes from south Texas to Florida goes to Immokalee
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 11:25 AM
Sep 2022

Never heard of Immokalee? Well, immigrants and migrant farm workers sure as hell have.

A huge percentage of the nations winter tomato crop is grown near that little town Southeast of Fort Myers.

The growers DEPEND on those workers.

Which is yet more proof that DeathSentence is a fucking moron.

https://goo.gl/maps/j9jkrt76B3HK3BkL7

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
12. He's just robbing the Florida people out of taxpayer money and giving it to his friends
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 11:29 AM
Sep 2022

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