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Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:28 PM

NEW: Judge Dearie has issued his first order, and it's a doozy

This judge means business. He wants TFG's attorneys to discuss why this case should not be handled in the court where the original search warrant was approved and TFG's attorneys need to state in writing the grounds for return of any property



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Reply NEW: Judge Dearie has issued his first order, and it's a doozy (Original post)
LetMyPeopleVote Thursday OP
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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:31 PM

1. So what stupid shit is he going to say on Hannity tonight?

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Response to Initech (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:34 PM

5. something something

...Obama's birth certificate

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Response to GenXer47 (Reply #5)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:42 PM

12. Well he did manage to slip in Hillary's emails last night

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Response to GenXer47 (Reply #5)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:50 PM

23. Hunter Biden and Butter emails.

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Response to GenXer47 (Reply #5)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 03:01 PM

28. Blather blather Hunter Biden's laptop

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Response to Initech (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 03:13 PM

33. Witchhunt. Also, the FBI left their shoes on in Mar a Lago.

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Response to Initech (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 03:25 PM

36. "Oh, and I forgot to tell you all...

I gave myself a pardon and total immunity to everything". That's coming be prepared.

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Response to SayItLoud (Reply #36)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 03:37 PM

44. Close, but here it is:


"I thought myself a pardon in my mind before January 20th, 2021. So I have total immunity and you can't touch me. If you do, there will be violence and and it will be terrible; so better not do it."

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Response to Initech (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 03:54 PM

49. his microwave is spying on him.

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Response to sprinkleeninow (Reply #49)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 04:19 PM

56. Haha, thanks for the reminder!

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Response to sprinkleeninow (Reply #49)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 04:35 PM

61. ...

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:31 PM

2. I want to see them writhing! LOL

Thanks for the post.

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:33 PM

3. Wow!

The stress of this could be quite hard on TFG's general health and well being.


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Response to MontanaMama (Reply #3)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:36 PM

6. paging Dr. Conrad Murray

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Response to GenXer47 (Reply #6)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:38 PM

7. Good one!

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Response to MontanaMama (Reply #3)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 03:51 PM

46. Last thing we need is martyrdom. I want tRump to live to be convicted & incarcerated


His cult already thinks he is terrifically noble and has sacrificed so much wealth to serve his lunatic base. If he dies running a third time (after having lost the popular vote twice) or doesn't run but dies fighting endless court battles, they will say he was hounded to death and "he gave so much to the America he loved so dearly".

On the other hand, if he is actually convicted of a crime (or multiples) before death, then only the hardest core base will not feel cheated by the Orange Con. Independents will much better understand what a terrible cost a Conner lays on the whole country and be much less inclined to swing to De Santis or other authoritarian.



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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #46)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 04:48 PM

66. +1. Agreed. I've always said a long life, healthy or not, providing it's behind bars

after a just conviction(s) would be in the best interests of the healing this country needs. Rule of law, scales of justice, law and order, etc. are what Patriots should expect.

Checking out before facing the music is the easy way out.

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Response to MontanaMama (Reply #3)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 04:26 PM

58. Especially if he is forced to exert his psychic powers

"I'm declassifying everything with my miiiiiiind!!"

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:33 PM

4. Here is the part of the Special Master's order that deal with whether this case belongs with Cannon

This case should have never been heard by Judge Loose Cannon. The special master is asking TFG's attorneys to explain why this matte should not be heard by the judge who issued the original search warrant
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.618763/gov.uscourts.flsd.618763.106.0.pdf

III. MOTION FOR RETURN OF PROPERTY
Once the Court has reviewed the Special Master’s recommendations and ruled on any objections thereto, the Special Master will, if necessary, consider Plaintiff’s motion for the return of property under Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 41(g). Plaintiff shall submit a brief in support of the motion no later than seven calendar days after the Court’s ruling on the Special Master’s recommendations. In addition to addressing the merits of the Rule 41(g) motion, Plaintiff’s brief should address specifically whether the motion may properly be resolved in this action or must instead be decided as part of the docket in the action in which the relevant warrant was issued, 9:22-MJ-08332-BER. The government shall submit a responsive brief no later than seven calendar days after submission of Plaintiff’s brief. Plaintiff may submit a reply brief no later than three calendar days thereafter. Any party may include a request for oral argument in its initial brief. The Special Master will promptly issue a report and recommendation after briefing and oral argument has been completed

This will be fun to watch

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Reply #4)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:40 PM

9. Thanks for the courtlistener pdf link!

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #9)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:43 PM

14. So I am not only one who likes to read the actual filing

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Reply #14)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:53 PM

25. I'm a junky for court docs. :D

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Reply #14)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 05:17 PM

68. Me too. It matches my own cognitive style. nt

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Reply #4)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:44 PM

16. Trump's lawyers after reading all this: "Lets just forget the whole thing"

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Response to The_Casual_Observer (Reply #16)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 04:00 PM

51. "Let's call the whole thing off!"

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Response to The_Casual_Observer (Reply #16)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 04:05 PM

53. His lawyer (Alina Habba) received something like $900,000 for three months work, courtesy of GQP

It is an open question how much of those millions of dollars are going to actual legal work or being disbursed to secret projects and payoffs.

The Orange ConMan has some kind of hammer over the GQP (Forbes):

RNC Paid Trump’s Personal Attorneys Another $350,000 In March

The Republican National Committee paid law firms representing former President Donald Trump’s personal interests another $350,000 in March, according to a financial report filed Wednesday evening with the Federal Election Commission.

The Republican Party agreed to cover up to $1.6 million of Trump’s legal bills as he fights investigations in New York regarding his business practices, the Washington Post reported in December.


Additionally, the grifter is tapping into his PAC which dings donors daily:

Former President Donald Trump spent over $3.8 million on "legal consulting" fees in August, the month the FBI searched his Mar-a-Lago home, according to a campaign finance report for his "Save America" political action committee.

A bulk of the legal payments are going to lawyers representing him in the Mar-a-Lago documents case.

The $3,886,999 in legal consulting costs includes a $3 million check written to the law firm Critton, Luttier & Coleman, LLP on Aug. 30. The firm is based out of Palm Beach, Fla., less than three miles from Trump's Mar-a-Lago club.

Former Florida solicitor general Chris Kise is not currently listed as one of the firm's attorneys, but Kise was reportedly paid $3 million up front to represent Trump, according to Politico. Kise was previously a partner at Foley & Lardner, but his ties with the firm were severed upon his hiring by Trump. Kise filed articles of incorporation with the state of Florida on Aug. 24 and entered his first appearance for Trump on Sept. 1.

Neither the firm nor Kise responded to CBS News' requests for comment regarding the payment. A spokesperson for Trump has also not responded to a request for comment.

Save America also paid $207,827 to "Habba Madaio & Associates, LLP," the firm of Trump attorney Alina Habba.


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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #53)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 08:04 PM

72. They need to triple those amounts and hire more lawyers.

There are still Repug ads running on the tv, so it's obvious they're not spending enough on their Orange Jesus.

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Reply #4)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 11:19 PM

75. He's not talking about Cannon...

He's asking why the return of property issue shouldn't be "decided as part of the docket in the action in which the relevant warrant was issued..." -- That docket was Judge Reinhart's.

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:39 PM

8. Judge Dearie did not come to play.

"He wants TFG's attorneys to discuss why this case should not be handled in the court where the original
search warrant." Wow! This is like when he told TFG's lawyers to show proof to the court that documents
in question had been declassified by Trump which they couldn't.

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Response to Botany (Reply #8)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:42 PM

13. The funny part is that Trumpy has to pay for the special master because he requested him.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #13)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:45 PM

19. tRump never pays for anything, his political pac or dummy supporters pay for it. nt

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Response to FSogol (Reply #13)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 03:00 PM

27. The Special Master is still on the govt. payroll as a judge and so if not taking a fee

This is from the filing
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.618763/gov.uscourts.flsd.618763.106.0.pdf

As a United States District Judge in active service, the undersigned will seek no additional compensation for performing the duties of Special Master in this action. The undersigned proposes that Judge Orenstein be compensated at the hourly rate of $500. The
undersigned further proposes that the Special Master will provide the parties with monthly invoices, starting on October 1, 2022, setting forth the hours worked and expenses to be reimbursed. No later than seven calendar days after receiving each such invoice, Plaintiff shall notify the undersigned of any objections to the invoice, which will be promptly reviewed and resolved. No later than seven calendar days after the undersigned has resolved any such disputes (or seven calendar days after receiving an invoice as to which Plaintiff raises no objections), Plaintiff will submit payment in full as directed on the invoice. Failure to make timely payment will be deemed a violation of the Special Master’s order subject to sanction pursuant to Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 53(c)(2)

TFG is getting a bargain other than having to pay for the vendor doing the document delivery and the magistrate

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Response to FSogol (Reply #13)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 09:15 PM

73. The Special Master is bringing in a retired federal magistrate to help him

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Response to Botany (Reply #8)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:58 PM

26. Because Trump was judge shopping.

That's why they filed with Judge "Loose" Cannon.

She tried to bend over backwards to appease her lord and master, but the higher courts are seeking right through that ruse.

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Response to Botany (Reply #8)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 03:26 PM

38. Judge Dearie is telling the world here:

"Pick your own judges to your detriment."

Judge Dearie is also saying "You fucked around. Now you're going to find out."

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Response to Novara (Reply #38)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 04:12 PM

54. From the little I know about the law and the courts I think that Judge Dearie is a by the book ..

... type of judge as far as hit court room is concerned. You make a claim or ask for something to
be done you better have proof of your claim or a sound legal reason why the "thing to be done"
should be done. You claim that the documents Trump had in Merde a Logo were declassified fine
bring that proof into my court room or you want a change in venue about hearing a case fine
under what grounds?

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:41 PM

10. TFG's bottom-feeding lawyers are gonna be real sorry

they ever coughed up this hairball of an idea - they forgot that old adage, "Be careful what you wish for, you might get it."

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:42 PM

11. It's Like The Trumpers Think They Can Will Anything They Believe...

into existance. Magical thinking at its finest.

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Response to ruet (Reply #11)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 04:48 PM

65. they have gotten away with criming their entire lives. You can't blame him for thinking this is yet

another one of those times. He's up to his eyeballs in investigations and it's all going to finally catch up.

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Response to ruet (Reply #11)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 06:49 PM

71. Magic!



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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:44 PM

15. Recommended.

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:45 PM

17. Also wants trump to list which evidence was planted by the FBI...lol

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Response to Nevilledog (Reply #17)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 03:02 PM

29. Hilarious. Those initial TFG arguments are like unknowingly stepping in dog shit.

Before you know it, it's everywhere, hard to clean up and leaving one wishing they had minded that careless step.

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Response to yonder (Reply #29)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 04:23 PM

57. And to think.........

they probably didn't even take their shoes off!

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Response to Nevilledog (Reply #17)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 03:30 PM

39. The clock is ticking

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:45 PM

18. They thought Judge Dearie would gum up the works for months

with hemming ans hawing and generally futzing around instead of doing his job (he's old, he's retired, he's conservative..).

I'm delighted to see they were completely wrong, that he grasps the seriousness of what TFG did, and he questions Loose Cannon's role in the case from the beginning.

I'd just hate to be the poor slob who has to tell TFG all this.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #18)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 03:20 PM

34. more evidence that everyone is sick of Trump's BS

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Response to CatWoman (Reply #34)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 04:01 PM

52. Sensible people certainly are

but the country is full of nonsensical people who will stand by their bloated plutocrat, no matter what.

Jesus done tetched him, dontcha know.

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:47 PM

20. Glorious!

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:48 PM

21. Hah, am I reading this correctly?

That last line of the first tweet's image, talks about items on the inventory list that plaintiff claims were *not* taken--meaning... what? The items the FBI "planted" there?

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Response to intrepidity (Reply #21)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 04:30 PM

60. Don't forget the signed receipt, Austin!

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:50 PM

22. Oh lordy! This is gonna be EXPENSIVE. That's a whole lot of work Dearie has demanded.

Also, adding Judge Orenstein (FISA and current Top Secret clearance) and EDNY staff.

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:53 PM

24. Kicking for visibility



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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 03:03 PM

30. Trump always makes things worse for Trump.

It's going to be entertaining watching him each time he make his "worse" even more worse. I think I'm going to need to get more popcorn.

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Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #30)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 03:11 PM

32. Per Mary Trump

We'd better all be stockpiling beer.

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 03:10 PM

31. I think I'm in love

Dearie is right. He's a dearie.

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 03:23 PM

35. AND THE HITS JUST KEEP COMING

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 03:25 PM

37. There will be ketchup involved!

TY LMPV!

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Response to Cha (Reply #37)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 04:17 PM

55. Put up the sheets of plastic on the walls at MAL!

...Then again, the ketchup hitting the fan is as good an excuse to redecorate as any.

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 03:32 PM

40. Trump: "Well, no rational person would believe what I said was the truth..."

Paraphrasing one of his lawyers.

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 03:35 PM

41. He should have taken the hint that when the DOJ agreed to appointing Dearie ...

... it would not end well for him.

What a dumb motherfucker.

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 03:37 PM

42. And the hits just keep on coming ...

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Response to aggiesal (Reply #42)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 10:19 AM

82. 😆 wreck! 😆

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 03:37 PM

43. Do you have a link to the entire document?

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Response to Moosepoop (Reply #76)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 12:02 AM

77. Thank you very much!

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 03:38 PM

45. They Should Just Cover The Walls Of Merde-a-Lardo With Ketchup And Save Time nt

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 03:54 PM

47. "I'm gonna de-classify that Judge Dearey. No way he's classy like Melania. So unfair."

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 03:54 PM

48. The donald certainly likes to gum up the works, but now

he has to face a judge who can return the favor - and seems to be doing exactly that.

He’s no pushover as Judge Cannon has been. I STILL believe she was leaning toward showing appreciation to trump with helpful rulings as a way to say “thank you” for that nice judge job he gave her on his way out of power.

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 03:55 PM

50. Donnie Dumphuck will be having the Last Laugh with Judge Dearie...

He’s planning stiff him on his fees !

#GeniusAtWork

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 04:27 PM

59. K&R.

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 04:36 PM

62. This makes me very happy.

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 04:42 PM

63. Just a smack down of Trump

The bill shitting is it working anymore. These are serious judges and these are serious people investigating serious crimes. His buttery males defense isn’t flying.

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 04:48 PM

64. LOL Trump doesn't even know what was taken

He kept no record of his records. He's such a hapless administrator

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 05:13 PM

67. I want an answer to the effect that these are ALL of the documents taken and held by Trump.

I want Trump himself to swear to it under oath in front of the court that he holds nor has stored in any location any other such documents or copies of same, paper, digital, or any other medium... And then I want a sweep of all of his residences, clubs, and his kid's residences to certify there are no other documents or copies. I suspect there is much more hidden per Cohen.

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 05:33 PM

69. great thread. k&r&bookmarking!! nt

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 05:54 PM

70. Dark Brandon is on the job

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 09:29 PM

74. Judge Dearie is a sly old fox...

He's about 4 moves ahead of Trump and his lawyers.

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 12:13 AM

78. Suck it Donny you fat fuck

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 01:59 AM

79. Think Trump lawyers will try to dump Dearie?

Can they just turn around and say they don't want this special master and want someone else?
Maybe make up some bogus reason why he's not appropriate?
Or maybe just say they don't want a special master anymore and he's dropped?

There's no way they will comply with his demands so seems their only option is to get rid of him.


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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 09:30 AM

80. Yeah, I really don't like that executive privilege part.

TFG will list everything under that and what will Dearie do?

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 09:48 AM

81. The FBI should have seized any office printers from Mar a lardo.

Most new ones save what was copied.

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Fri Sep 23, 2022, 11:23 AM

83. On 'planted' evidence, Team Trump faces put-up-or-shut-up test

TFG's attorneys are regretting the appointment of this judge as special master


https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/planted-evidence-team-trump-faces-put-shut-test-rcna49111?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_ma

During a Fox News appearance this week, Donald Trump once again raised the prospect of FBI agents planting incriminating evidence against him at Mar-a-Lago. “The problem that you have is [law enforcement officials] go into rooms — they won’t let anybody near — they wouldn’t even let them in the same building,” the former president said. “Did they drop anything into those piles? Or did they do it later?”.....

For the special master in the Mar-a-Lago classified documents case, this apparently isn’t quite good enough: U.S. District Judge Raymond Dearie, whom Team Trump recommended for the role, has issued a put-up-or-shut-up challenge to the former president’s attorneys. NBC News reported that Dearie has given them until a week from today to back up the allegations.

In a filing Thursday, Senior U.S. District Judge Raymond J. Dearie of New York, the court-appointed special master, ordered the government to turn over copies of all non-classified items seized in the case to Trump’s lawyers by Monday. He then ordered Trump’s team to submit a “declaration or affidavit” of any items in the inventory that were removed from Mar-a-Lago that the “Plaintiff asserts were not seized from the Premises,” meaning items that were put there by someone else.


Dearie also asked Trump’s lawyers to identify any items that were seized by FBI agents but not listed in the official inventory. “This submission shall be Plaintiff’s final opportunity to raise any factual dispute as to the completeness and accuracy of the Detailed Property Inventory,” the judge wrote.

For weeks, the Republican’s lawyers have been afraid to echo their client’s claims for an obvious reason: They almost certainly know he’s lying. Failed former politicians can say whatever they please in public forums, and Trump has clearly come to believe he can lie with impunity. Attorneys, who can be sanctioned and disbarred, have no such luxury in their court filings.


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Fri Sep 23, 2022, 12:02 PM

84. Dearie asks Trump lawyers whether they believe FBI lied about seized documents

The special master is going to force TFG's attorneys to answer some key questions. This will be fun


https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/09/22/dearie-trump-order-declassify/

The Mar-a-Lago special master on Thursday ordered Donald Trump’s lawyers to state in a court filing whether they believe FBI agents lied about documents seized from the former president’s Florida residence in a court-authorized search last month, or claimed to have taken items that were not actually in Trump’s possession.

In a Thursday afternoon filing, U.S. District Judge Raymond J. Dearie — the special master — told Trump’s legal team to state by Sept. 30 whether they believe any of the seized items were incorrectly described in the Justice Department’s 11-page inventory list, which said some of the documents were highly classified.

Dearie also told them to say whether they are claiming that any items on the inventory list were not in fact taken from the premises.

Trump has said on social media and in television interviews that the FBI planted items when they searched his Mar-a-Lago residence and private club on Aug. 8. He also claimed to have declassified documents found in that search that were marked classified and were highly sensitive. His lawyers have not made similar assertions in court, however, instead saying they have not reviewed the seized materials and are unable to confirm whether the government’s inventory list is accurate.

Dearie’s order, in essence, demands that Trump’s lawyers back up their client’s claims. “This submission shall be Plaintiff’s final opportunity to raise any factual dispute as to the completeness and accuracy of the Detailed Property Inventory,” he wrote.

At a hearing Tuesday, Dearie pressed Trump’s lawyers to take a position on whether the classified documents were, as Trump has said, declassified, but they demurred.

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