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SleeplessinSoCal

(8,878 posts)
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 05:31 PM Sep 2022

Are these guys going to prison going to come out even more militarized?

A Jan. 6 rioter and alleged Nazi sympathizer who once likened the attack on the U.S. Capitol to the Civil War has been sentenced to four years behind bars, according to CNN.

Timothy Hale-Cusanelli, an ex-U.S. Army reserve officer, was convicted this past May of five charges related to the events of Jan. 6, including a felony obstruction charge. In addition, Hale-Cusanelli will serve three years of supervised release following his sentence, and must also pay $2,000 in restitution.

During the sentencing, Hale-Cusanelli begged the judge for forgiveness, according to CNN, saying that he had "disrespected my uniform," and that the judge would "never see [his] face again."


Seems to me he has to admit tfg is a con man and has done great harm to our country and its Constitution. Then, maybe, he could be believed.

https://www.rawstory.com/timothy-hale-cusanelli-sentenced/
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Are these guys going to prison going to come out even more militarized? (Original Post) SleeplessinSoCal Sep 2022 OP
With any luck, they'll come out of prison thinking: Aristus Sep 2022 #1
some will Grasswire2 Sep 2022 #4
Yes. Grasswire2 Sep 2022 #2
I don't care, I have seen the likes of them, out smarting them should be... NO FUCKING PROBLEM! Brainfodder Sep 2022 #3
It would be great if we applied more thought to prisons... Effete Snob Sep 2022 #5
The Scandinavian prison systems Elessar Zappa Sep 2022 #6
Yup Effete Snob Sep 2022 #10
I think many, if not most Mr.Bill Sep 2022 #7
Probably. Elessar Zappa Sep 2022 #8
Your 'Seems to me...' statement is an outstanding idea... Volaris Sep 2022 #9
I think about former Scientologists trying to reason with the cult mentality. SleeplessinSoCal Sep 2022 #12
Yes. They will come out more militarized. Tomconroy Sep 2022 #11

Aristus

(65,797 posts)
1. With any luck, they'll come out of prison thinking:
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 05:44 PM
Sep 2022

"I'll do whatever it takes to never have to go back in there again."

Grasswire2

(13,559 posts)
4. some will
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 05:47 PM
Sep 2022

But those who find a sort of "brotherhood" inside will be strengthened in their darker ambitions.

Grasswire2

(13,559 posts)
2. Yes.
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 05:45 PM
Sep 2022

And prison life will be (and already is) an opportunity for organizing ruffians and the disaffected into such groups as Oath Keepers and Proud Boys.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
5. It would be great if we applied more thought to prisons...
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 06:04 PM
Sep 2022

...and what it is we are trying to accomplish.

We've gone full bore retribution and don't really attempt rehabilitation.

Elessar Zappa

(13,493 posts)
6. The Scandinavian prison systems
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 06:10 PM
Sep 2022

should be a model for us. It’s not perfect but it focuses more on rehabilitation, education, etc. rather than revenge punishment.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
10. Yup
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 06:49 PM
Sep 2022

People here would go on about "coddling criminals," but our prison system appears to make a significant proportion of the inmates into more dangerous criminals than when they entered.

It should be about 'what outcomes do we want'. These things can be measured, but nobody wants to hear about it.

Mr.Bill

(23,881 posts)
7. I think many, if not most
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 06:17 PM
Sep 2022

of them will violate the terms of their supervised release and wind up back in prison not once but many times. Some will spend their whole life in that revolving door.

I have little hope that many of them will ever lead productive lives, and I doubt many of them have since the day they were born.

Volaris

(10,247 posts)
9. Your 'Seems to me...' statement is an outstanding idea...
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 06:38 PM
Sep 2022

Any of these fools want to NOT go to jail (or be let out early) should have to record one...

And have it played of Fox News at least once in order for them to get out.

Think Fox would help out all those Fellow Patriots that way?

Hahahahahhaa...no, I didn't either.

SleeplessinSoCal

(8,878 posts)
12. I think about former Scientologists trying to reason with the cult mentality.
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 07:48 PM
Sep 2022

Fixing the prison system was on Obama's agenda. But imagine the racists in charge of our penal system wanting to help him.

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