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Thu Sep 22, 2022, 09:54 PM

It appears the reason I don't like Alex Wagner...

Is because she has a harsh voice. Too much force.

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Reply It appears the reason I don't like Alex Wagner... (Original post)
LiberalFighter Thursday OP
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Irishxs Thursday #3
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Response to LiberalFighter (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 10:01 PM

1. You need to get used to it.

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Response to dchill (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 10:04 PM

2. Sorry. That sounds a little harsh...

I found her off-putting in the beginning, but I'm past it now. She's quite good, IMO.

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Response to dchill (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 10:14 PM

8. Unless I get a different hearing-aid it won't happen.

And that likely won't happen my type is not covered under regular hearing coverage.

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Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #8)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 10:35 AM

41. I've tried several times watching her

but I just can't stay with it. I remember her daytime show on MSNBC years ago and I had no problem with her back then. Since, she has developed an annoying vocal fry that is really hard to listen to. It is, however, fixable. First step is to recognize that you have a problem and address it. As a rule, people don't naturally talk that way. It is something that is acquired over time.

It is a shame, as I think I could like her program, but that voice is like fingernails on a chalkboard.

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Response to dchill (Reply #1)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 05:44 PM

65. Women has TOO FORCEFUL A VOICE ???? What the crap!!! I have a dam forceful voice, HEAR ME ROAR

Maybe the OP likes cute little Minne Mouse voices? This sucks.


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Response to LiberalFighter (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 10:08 PM

3. Love her!!!

Perfect replacement!!

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Response to Irishxs (Reply #3)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 10:11 PM

4. Agree

I would say I don't understand some of the negative reaction to her but then........ I know what it is.

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #4)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 10:14 PM

7. What is it?

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #4)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 04:58 AM

30. Oh, I do, too

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #4)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 05:17 AM

33. Yes, so do I.

SMH.

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Response to LiberalFighter (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 10:13 PM

5. Yes it's

rather annoying at time. Wish Jean Psaki had taken over Rachelís show. Better yet I wish she had not left administration.

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Response to Rebl2 (Reply #5)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 10:15 PM

9. Yes, Psaki was great.

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Response to LiberalFighter (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 10:13 PM

6. I Like Her

She has an engaging personality and seems quite intelligent. I donít think her voice harsh at all either.

I guess voices is like beauty.....in this case itís in the ears of he beholder

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Response to LiberalFighter (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 10:26 PM

10. I like her....But

She is forceful but Iíd like to see her modulate her affectÖ.she has very little range in my opinionÖability to dial it down and know when to do that

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Response to LiberalFighter (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 10:28 PM

11. You have a right to think that, but...

...I'm listening right now to what I deem to be her pretty much normal voice. Some people seem to try to search for reasons to trash this woman, for what, I don't know, but she's doing a great job on her show.

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Response to LiberalFighter (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 10:35 PM

12. I wish she would relax.

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Response to LiberalFighter (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 10:50 PM

13. Don't like her. Terrible replacement.

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Response to Polly Hennessey (Reply #13)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 12:27 AM

22. completely disagree

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Response to LiberalFighter (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 10:56 PM

14. Oh, the "woman's voice" excuse. An oldie that never seems to go our od style.

Maybe unwitting, but sexist none the less.

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Response to Merlot (Reply #14)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 12:26 AM

21. No, It's Not

Personally, Iím really sensitive to peoples voices, and I just canít get past Alex Wagnerís voice. It really grates on me. Iíve tried watching her show several times now, and I have to change the channel. I feel the same about a couple of other commentators as well, especially Betsy Woodruff Swan and Tiffany Cross. This may be a weird quirk, but it has nothing to do with sexism.

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Response to DET (Reply #21)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 03:43 AM

24. Wow

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Response to DET (Reply #21)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 04:59 AM

31. Lol all three are women

Whoosh.

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Response to DET (Reply #21)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 05:48 AM

36. No men's voices annoy you?

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Response to Merlot (Reply #14)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 10:25 AM

38. I have this problem with certain men when they speak.

It's likely not sexist as much it is the octave/range tonal quality going through the ear; shit happens when you get older.

Let's not assign the issue to sexism as a reason simply because the complaint is about a female. It's likely the cochlea of the person with the issue.

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Response to Gore1FL (Reply #38)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 10:48 AM

42. I agree

I've heard men do the same thing and after awhile it is difficult to listen to. It sounds pretentious and condescending and reminds me of William F. Buckley years ago. I remember my husband unconsciously imitating Buckley after watching him on TV. As soon as I pointed it out, he quit, though he occasionally did it over the years when he was talking down to people.

In the 1970s, we had a friend who taught at Northwestern and one evening he started talking like that. As soon as we pointed it out to him, he laughed and blamed it on the "snobs" he hung out with at school. Once he was conscious of it, he made an effort not to do it again.

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Response to LiberalFighter (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 11:41 PM

15. I think she's an excellent choice

Informed, well spoken, good interviewer.

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Response to LiberalFighter (Original post)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 12:11 AM

16. So what male pundits do you dislike due to their harsh voices?

🤷‍♂️

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Response to Sky Jewels (Reply #16)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 05:03 PM

53. +10000

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Response to LiberalFighter (Original post)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 12:12 AM

17. thread trashed.

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Response to LiberalFighter (Original post)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 12:15 AM

18. Is this sarcasm?

Like she doesn't smile enough?

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Response to jcgoldie (Reply #18)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 05:18 AM

34. Boom.

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Response to jcgoldie (Reply #18)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 05:03 PM

55. +10000

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Response to LiberalFighter (Original post)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 12:21 AM

19. I agree that her voice is slightly wearing, but I could say the same for Rachel

They both speak very rapidly, and maybe that's what wears me out. I still like both of them, and I learn from both. But the truth is that I would miss much of what they say if it weren't for the fact that I have the closed captions on. Is that a criticism of them, or me? I'm not sure.

I still tune in regularly. But I find that I have more energy to listen to both Rachel and Alex if I record their shows at night and watch them the next morning. My energy level is higher then.

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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #19)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 04:11 AM

27. I cannot listen to Joy for that reason--way way way too fast

And although I love Rachel, wow, she needs an editor. I don't need to hear the same thing repeated four or five times... three is plenty.

I like your idea of recording shows to match the time of day that suits your energy level!

And to the powers that be at MSNBC: for whatever it's worth, I think Alex is doing great. She had the biggest shoes at MSNBC to step into and they fit her well.

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Response to renate (Reply #27)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 05:00 PM

51. Love Joy, but when she's gets carried away on a point, she speaks too fast for me, too. nt

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Response to LiberalFighter (Original post)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 12:24 AM

20. she is great

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Response to LiberalFighter (Original post)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 03:42 AM

23. Lol, ok!

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Response to LiberalFighter (Original post)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 03:50 AM

25. I find what Alex says to be somewhat enlightened and informative

Depends on what matters and Iíve looked forward to her appearances since before her gig on Showtime.

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Response to LiberalFighter (Original post)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 04:03 AM

26. I hardly watch but my brother does

She is too happy for me. So much tragedy, you should not seem like youíre happy about it imo. I feel the same about the anchor who replaced the 11 th hour, sorry I have forgotten her name. She does not seem quite as happy but she also seems too happy about really crappy stuff.

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Response to Meowmee (Reply #26)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 04:15 AM

28. Her name is Stephanie Ruhle: and WOULD SOMEONE PLEASE TELL HER TO STOP INTERRUPTING

It's really bad. So so so so so so bad.

I genuinely think she has a good heart, but please, Stephanie, you may be the host but the show is not about you and whatever you say you're confused about. Your viewers are as smart as you are... please let your interviewees talk without your asking for explanations.

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Response to renate (Reply #28)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 10:51 AM

43. Joy Reid does that as well

It is as if she isn't really listening to her guests, but planning on what she is going to say next. I miss Brian Williams. He was so good with guests and never cut anyone off. He knew how to at least look like he was listening.

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Response to renate (Reply #28)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 04:50 PM

45. Ty

I think a lot of them do that. I watched a video to see after you posted this and she did interrupt one guest who said after he was just going to say that, lol. I think they are good at heart of course but not my style for sure. Actually truth be told I find almost everyone on tv annoying eventually, lol. And what is with this pushing books non stop. I never buy any of these books.

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Response to renate (Reply #28)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 04:57 PM

48. The worst interrupter of all time, hands down, was Chris Matthews.

I cannot believe he kept his show for years and years. He'd trample all over everyone and wouldn't let them complete a thought (especially women, of course).

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Response to Sky Jewels (Reply #48)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 05:05 PM

57. Yes he was definitely the worst hands down

I hated him, lol.

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Response to Meowmee (Reply #57)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 05:11 PM

60. Same.

I couldn't change the channel fast enough.

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Response to Sky Jewels (Reply #60)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 05:17 PM

61. I could never understand

How someone could have their own show when mostly what they did was shout people down and not let them speak. I guess some liked the shouting etc. What happens or has happened here is mild compared to what I saw years ago on french tv where a group of interviewees devolved to shouting and swearing at each other, but that was probably a rare event.

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Response to LiberalFighter (Original post)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 04:20 AM

29. If you want to know what a good voice sounds like ...

This CNN host makes melodic tones with her voice as she reads the news.








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Response to Earth-shine (Reply #29)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 10:53 AM

44. Yes, that really is pleasing to the ear

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Response to Earth-shine (Reply #29)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 04:51 PM

46. Yes have watched her on the late

Rounds in the past. She is pretty good.

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Response to LiberalFighter (Original post)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 04:59 AM

32. Do you also think Hillary is shrill?

So tired of this

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #32)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 05:24 AM

35. This whole thread is amazing.

The "critique" of women's voices thread.

I'm trying to remember if I have ever seen such a thread about male anchors/pundits

Hmm. Nope.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #32)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 10:29 AM

40. +1

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #32)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 05:04 PM

56. +10000

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Response to LiberalFighter (Original post)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 06:21 AM

37. I like her. She has some "big shoes" to fill, so to speak...

and she's working hard.

I think she's doing a great job.

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Response to LiberalFighter (Original post)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 10:28 AM

39. Well that's enlightening, if nothing else.

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Response to LiberalFighter (Original post)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 04:52 PM

47. One of the reasons I like Alex Wagner

is because I am an extremely shallow straight man.

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Response to LiberalFighter (Original post)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 04:58 PM

49. Personally, I think it would be rather strange to have the news whispered to me...

...but to each their own, I guess.

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Response to LiberalFighter (Original post)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 04:59 PM

50. For real?

Give her a chance. Nobody is Rachel but Rachel.

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Response to LiberalFighter (Original post)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 05:01 PM

52. Oh, wow! Is this sarcasm??? Which male news presenter offends you the same way????? nt

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Response to LiberalFighter (Original post)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 05:03 PM

54. :) Okay. Goodness knows there's no shortage of alternatives.

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Response to LiberalFighter (Original post)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 05:10 PM

59. And I suppose you think Chris Hayes is pleasing to the ear????????? nt

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Response to LiberalFighter (Original post)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 05:17 PM

62. And she should smile more?

Sexism is so ground into the culture.

It is an indelible part of the fabric.

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Response to LiberalFighter (Original post)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 05:33 PM

63. too much force ??? I FIND YOUR COMMENT TO BE WOMAN HATING!!

WOMEN ARE FORCEFUL ...... GET OVER IT.

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Response to LiberalFighter (Original post)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 05:35 PM

64. Yeah!! And Hillary was shrill!! That's why she lost to Trump!!!! nt

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