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It appears the reason I don't like Alex Wagner... (Original Post) LiberalFighter Sep 2022 OP
You need to get used to it. dchill Sep 2022 #1
Sorry. That sounds a little harsh... dchill Sep 2022 #2
Unless I get a different hearing-aid it won't happen. LiberalFighter Sep 2022 #8
I've tried several times watching her PatSeg Sep 2022 #41
Women has TOO FORCEFUL A VOICE ???? What the crap!!! I have a dam forceful voice, HEAR ME ROAR Trueblue1968 Sep 2022 #65
Love her!!! Irishxs Sep 2022 #3
Agree DURHAM D Sep 2022 #4
What is it? Rebl2 Sep 2022 #7
Oh, I do, too obamanut2012 Sep 2022 #30
Yes, so do I. Treefrog Sep 2022 #33
Yes it's Rebl2 Sep 2022 #5
Yes, Psaki was great. LiberalFighter Sep 2022 #9
I Like Her colsohlibgal Sep 2022 #6
I like her....But Dawgman49 Sep 2022 #10
You have a right to think that, but... tableturner Sep 2022 #11
I wish she would relax. eShirl Sep 2022 #12
Don't like her. Terrible replacement. Polly Hennessey Sep 2022 #13
completely disagree Celerity Sep 2022 #22
Oh, the "woman's voice" excuse. An oldie that never seems to go our od style. Merlot Sep 2022 #14
No, It's Not DET Sep 2022 #21
Wow USALiberal Sep 2022 #24
Lol all three are women obamanut2012 Sep 2022 #31
No men's voices annoy you? Dorian Gray Sep 2022 #36
I have this problem with certain men when they speak. Gore1FL Sep 2022 #38
I agree PatSeg Sep 2022 #42
I think she's an excellent choice Taraman Sep 2022 #15
So what male pundits do you dislike due to their harsh voices? Sky Jewels Sep 2022 #16
+10000 LAS14 Sep 2022 #53
thread trashed. ZonkerHarris Sep 2022 #17
Is this sarcasm? jcgoldie Sep 2022 #18
Boom. Treefrog Sep 2022 #34
+10000 LAS14 Sep 2022 #55
I agree that her voice is slightly wearing, but I could say the same for Rachel FakeNoose Sep 2022 #19
I cannot listen to Joy for that reason--way way way too fast renate Sep 2022 #27
Love Joy, but when she's gets carried away on a point, she speaks too fast for me, too. nt allegorical oracle Sep 2022 #51
she is great Celerity Sep 2022 #20
Lol, ok! USALiberal Sep 2022 #23
I find what Alex says to be somewhat enlightened and informative tirebiter Sep 2022 #25
I hardly watch but my brother does Meowmee Sep 2022 #26
Her name is Stephanie Ruhle: and WOULD SOMEONE PLEASE TELL HER TO STOP INTERRUPTING renate Sep 2022 #28
Joy Reid does that as well PatSeg Sep 2022 #43
Ty Meowmee Sep 2022 #45
The worst interrupter of all time, hands down, was Chris Matthews. Sky Jewels Sep 2022 #48
Yes he was definitely the worst hands down Meowmee Sep 2022 #57
Same. Sky Jewels Sep 2022 #60
I could never understand Meowmee Sep 2022 #61
If you want to know what a good voice sounds like ... Earth-shine Sep 2022 #29
Yes, that really is pleasing to the ear PatSeg Sep 2022 #44
Yes have watched her on the late Meowmee Sep 2022 #46
Do you also think Hillary is shrill? obamanut2012 Sep 2022 #32
This whole thread is amazing. Treefrog Sep 2022 #35
+1 MrsCoffee Sep 2022 #40
+10000 LAS14 Sep 2022 #56
I like her. She has some "big shoes" to fill, so to speak... LuckyCharms Sep 2022 #37
Well that's enlightening, if nothing else. MrsCoffee Sep 2022 #39
One of the reasons I like Alex Wagner maxsolomon Sep 2022 #47
Personally, I think it would be rather strange to have the news whispered to me... Silent3 Sep 2022 #49
For real? mahina Sep 2022 #50
Oh, wow! Is this sarcasm??? Which male news presenter offends you the same way????? nt LAS14 Sep 2022 #52
:) Okay. Goodness knows there's no shortage of alternatives. Hortensis Sep 2022 #54
This message was self-deleted by its author brooklynite Sep 2022 #58
And I suppose you think Chris Hayes is pleasing to the ear????????? nt LAS14 Sep 2022 #59
And she should smile more? alphafemale Sep 2022 #62
too much force ??? I FIND YOUR COMMENT TO BE WOMAN HATING!! Trueblue1968 Sep 2022 #63
Yeah!! And Hillary was shrill!! That's why she lost to Trump!!!! nt LAS14 Sep 2022 #64

dchill

(38,433 posts)
2. Sorry. That sounds a little harsh...
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 10:04 PM
Sep 2022

I found her off-putting in the beginning, but I'm past it now. She's quite good, IMO.

LiberalFighter

(50,767 posts)
8. Unless I get a different hearing-aid it won't happen.
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 10:14 PM
Sep 2022

And that likely won't happen my type is not covered under regular hearing coverage.

PatSeg

(47,239 posts)
41. I've tried several times watching her
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 10:35 AM
Sep 2022

but I just can't stay with it. I remember her daytime show on MSNBC years ago and I had no problem with her back then. Since, she has developed an annoying vocal fry that is really hard to listen to. It is, however, fixable. First step is to recognize that you have a problem and address it. As a rule, people don't naturally talk that way. It is something that is acquired over time.

It is a shame, as I think I could like her program, but that voice is like fingernails on a chalkboard.

Trueblue1968

(17,189 posts)
65. Women has TOO FORCEFUL A VOICE ???? What the crap!!! I have a dam forceful voice, HEAR ME ROAR
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 05:44 PM
Sep 2022

Maybe the OP likes cute little Minne Mouse voices? This sucks.


DURHAM D

(32,603 posts)
4. Agree
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 10:11 PM
Sep 2022

I would say I don't understand some of the negative reaction to her but then........ I know what it is.

Rebl2

(13,447 posts)
5. Yes it's
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 10:13 PM
Sep 2022

rather annoying at time. Wish Jean Psaki had taken over Rachel’s show. Better yet I wish she had not left administration.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
6. I Like Her
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 10:13 PM
Sep 2022

She has an engaging personality and seems quite intelligent. I don’t think her voice harsh at all either.

I guess voices is like beauty.....in this case it’s in the ears of he beholder

Dawgman49

(224 posts)
10. I like her....But
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 10:26 PM
Sep 2022

She is forceful but I’d like to see her modulate her affect….she has very little range in my opinion…ability to dial it down and know when to do that

tableturner

(1,679 posts)
11. You have a right to think that, but...
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 10:28 PM
Sep 2022

...I'm listening right now to what I deem to be her pretty much normal voice. Some people seem to try to search for reasons to trash this woman, for what, I don't know, but she's doing a great job on her show.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
14. Oh, the "woman's voice" excuse. An oldie that never seems to go our od style.
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 10:56 PM
Sep 2022

Maybe unwitting, but sexist none the less.

DET

(1,298 posts)
21. No, It's Not
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 12:26 AM
Sep 2022

Personally, I’m really sensitive to peoples voices, and I just can’t get past Alex Wagner’s voice. It really grates on me. I’ve tried watching her show several times now, and I have to change the channel. I feel the same about a couple of other commentators as well, especially Betsy Woodruff Swan and Tiffany Cross. This may be a weird quirk, but it has nothing to do with sexism.

Gore1FL

(21,095 posts)
38. I have this problem with certain men when they speak.
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 10:25 AM
Sep 2022

It's likely not sexist as much it is the octave/range tonal quality going through the ear; shit happens when you get older.

Let's not assign the issue to sexism as a reason simply because the complaint is about a female. It's likely the cochlea of the person with the issue.

PatSeg

(47,239 posts)
42. I agree
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 10:48 AM
Sep 2022

I've heard men do the same thing and after awhile it is difficult to listen to. It sounds pretentious and condescending and reminds me of William F. Buckley years ago. I remember my husband unconsciously imitating Buckley after watching him on TV. As soon as I pointed it out, he quit, though he occasionally did it over the years when he was talking down to people.

In the 1970s, we had a friend who taught at Northwestern and one evening he started talking like that. As soon as we pointed it out to him, he laughed and blamed it on the "snobs" he hung out with at school. Once he was conscious of it, he made an effort not to do it again.

FakeNoose

(32,556 posts)
19. I agree that her voice is slightly wearing, but I could say the same for Rachel
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 12:21 AM
Sep 2022

They both speak very rapidly, and maybe that's what wears me out. I still like both of them, and I learn from both. But the truth is that I would miss much of what they say if it weren't for the fact that I have the closed captions on. Is that a criticism of them, or me? I'm not sure.

I still tune in regularly. But I find that I have more energy to listen to both Rachel and Alex if I record their shows at night and watch them the next morning. My energy level is higher then.

renate

(13,776 posts)
27. I cannot listen to Joy for that reason--way way way too fast
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 04:11 AM
Sep 2022

And although I love Rachel, wow, she needs an editor. I don't need to hear the same thing repeated four or five times... three is plenty.

I like your idea of recording shows to match the time of day that suits your energy level!

And to the powers that be at MSNBC: for whatever it's worth, I think Alex is doing great. She had the biggest shoes at MSNBC to step into and they fit her well.

tirebiter

(2,532 posts)
25. I find what Alex says to be somewhat enlightened and informative
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 03:50 AM
Sep 2022

Depends on what matters and I’ve looked forward to her appearances since before her gig on Showtime.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
26. I hardly watch but my brother does
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 04:03 AM
Sep 2022

She is too happy for me. So much tragedy, you should not seem like you’re happy about it imo. I feel the same about the anchor who replaced the 11 th hour, sorry I have forgotten her name. She does not seem quite as happy but she also seems too happy about really crappy stuff.

renate

(13,776 posts)
28. Her name is Stephanie Ruhle: and WOULD SOMEONE PLEASE TELL HER TO STOP INTERRUPTING
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 04:15 AM
Sep 2022

It's really bad. So so so so so so bad.

I genuinely think she has a good heart, but please, Stephanie, you may be the host but the show is not about you and whatever you say you're confused about. Your viewers are as smart as you are... please let your interviewees talk without your asking for explanations.

PatSeg

(47,239 posts)
43. Joy Reid does that as well
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 10:51 AM
Sep 2022

It is as if she isn't really listening to her guests, but planning on what she is going to say next. I miss Brian Williams. He was so good with guests and never cut anyone off. He knew how to at least look like he was listening.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
45. Ty
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 04:50 PM
Sep 2022

I think a lot of them do that. I watched a video to see after you posted this and she did interrupt one guest who said after he was just going to say that, lol. I think they are good at heart of course but not my style for sure. Actually truth be told I find almost everyone on tv annoying eventually, lol. And what is with this pushing books non stop. I never buy any of these books.

Sky Jewels

(7,008 posts)
48. The worst interrupter of all time, hands down, was Chris Matthews.
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 04:57 PM
Sep 2022

I cannot believe he kept his show for years and years. He'd trample all over everyone and wouldn't let them complete a thought (especially women, of course).

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
61. I could never understand
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 05:17 PM
Sep 2022

How someone could have their own show when mostly what they did was shout people down and not let them speak. I guess some liked the shouting etc. What happens or has happened here is mild compared to what I saw years ago on french tv where a group of interviewees devolved to shouting and swearing at each other, but that was probably a rare event.

Earth-shine

(3,939 posts)
29. If you want to know what a good voice sounds like ...
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 04:20 AM
Sep 2022

This CNN host makes melodic tones with her voice as she reads the news.








 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
35. This whole thread is amazing.
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 05:24 AM
Sep 2022

The "critique" of women's voices thread.

I'm trying to remember if I have ever seen such a thread about male anchors/pundits

Hmm. Nope.

LuckyCharms

(17,410 posts)
37. I like her. She has some "big shoes" to fill, so to speak...
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 06:21 AM
Sep 2022

and she's working hard.

I think she's doing a great job.

Silent3

(15,142 posts)
49. Personally, I think it would be rather strange to have the news whispered to me...
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 04:58 PM
Sep 2022

...but to each their own, I guess.

Response to LiberalFighter (Original post)

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
62. And she should smile more?
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 05:17 PM
Sep 2022

Sexism is so ground into the culture.

It is an indelible part of the fabric.

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