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867-5309.

(1,189 posts)
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 10:39 AM Sep 2022

US installs record solar capacity as prices keep falling

This week, the US Department of Energy's Berkeley Lab released its annual analysis of solar energy in the US. It found that nearly half the generating capacity was installed in the US during 2021 and is poised to dominate future installs. That's in part because costs have dropped by more than 75 percent since 2010; it's now often cheaper to build and operate a solar plant than it is to simply buy fuel for an existing natural gas plant.

In terms of large, utility-scale solar installs, the US added over 12.5 gigawatts of new capacity last year, bringing the total installed capacity to over 50 gigawatts. Texas led the way, with about a third of the total capacity added (3.9 GW) going online in the Lone Star State. Combined with residential and other distributed solar installations, solar alone accounted for 45 percent of the new generating capacity added to the grid last year.

That growth showed up in figures on how much energy solar supplies. Five states now receive more than 15 percent of their electricity from solar power, including Massachusetts and Vermont, with California receiving 25 percent of its electricity from the Sun.

Solar's expansion has largely been driven by falling costs. The DOE estimates that the price of building a solar plant has been dropping by an average of about 10 percent a year, leading to a fall of over 75 percent since 2010. That has left prices averaging about $1.35 for each watt of capacity in 2021. Large-scale plants benefit the most, with projects over 50 megawatts costing about 20 percent less than those under 20 MW...


https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/09/us-installs-record-solar-capacity-as-prices-keep-falling/




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US installs record solar capacity as prices keep falling (Original Post) 867-5309. Sep 2022 OP
Personally not a big fan of huge solar farms, but whatever it takes... Wounded Bear Sep 2022 #1
Didn't help California much during the latest heat wave jimfields33 Sep 2022 #2
An inconvenient truth...solar panel efficiency drops with extreme temperatures...nt Wounded Bear Sep 2022 #3
Oh wow. I don't think Florida should do it then. We have high temperatures jimfields33 Sep 2022 #5
Solar works just fine in Florida lol! Blues Heron Sep 2022 #7
It does. Many have solar panels on the roof. jimfields33 Sep 2022 #8
That was the other poster that said efficiency Drops Blues Heron Sep 2022 #10
Yeah, I didn't mean to say they shut down. They lose efficiency. Wounded Bear Sep 2022 #15
And so? Johnny2X2X Sep 2022 #13
My bad on the wording there. No need to get defensive. I strongly support solar... Wounded Bear Sep 2022 #16
No worries Johnny2X2X Sep 2022 #17
Aptera owners may take issue with that plan next year! Shermann Sep 2022 #6
12.5 gigawatts is 10X the power needed by the DeLorean time machine nt Shermann Sep 2022 #4
Those were jigawatts. Qutzupalotl Sep 2022 #12
The movie took artistic liberties with the pronunciation! nt Shermann Sep 2022 #14
Our PG&E bill is like $25 a month Sympthsical Sep 2022 #9
Happy to be part of that statistic with Solar Panels on my roof liberal N proud Sep 2022 #11
We tried to put one on our house. AllyCat Sep 2022 #18
Former president Carter built a solar farm to power his own house... Oldtimeralso Sep 2022 #19

Wounded Bear

(64,323 posts)
1. Personally not a big fan of huge solar farms, but whatever it takes...
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 10:44 AM
Sep 2022

Good to hear about growth in point of use collection of solar power. We need to install more parking areas with solar panels overhead to provide shade for the vehicles and charging capacity as well. There are other options available as well.

 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
2. Didn't help California much during the latest heat wave
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 10:47 AM
Sep 2022

you’d think 25% would be able to keep up with the capacity along with the grid. But I guess not.

 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
5. Oh wow. I don't think Florida should do it then. We have high temperatures
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 10:56 AM
Sep 2022

most of the year.

 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
8. It does. Many have solar panels on the roof.
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 10:59 AM
Sep 2022

I was just surprised that you say they don’t work in high temperatures.

Blues Heron

(8,834 posts)
10. That was the other poster that said efficiency Drops
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 11:03 AM
Sep 2022

TheY kick out less current as the temps go up, but they still work

Wounded Bear

(64,323 posts)
15. Yeah, I didn't mean to say they shut down. They lose efficiency.
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 11:25 AM
Sep 2022

That means they drop 10% or so of their output power, so we don't have enough to handle peak usage at some times.

Johnny2X2X

(24,203 posts)
13. And so?
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 11:11 AM
Sep 2022

They're a little less efficient in extreme temperatures, 10-25% less efficient. It's still free energy less the cost of installation and maintenance.

Why is that an inconvenient truth? The solar industry has never hid this.

And California's grid held up remarkably well considering the extreme conditions.

And solar and wind were the only thing that prevented Texas from a total catastrophic failure of their entire grid during their deep freeze the other year.

Solar, wind, and other renewables are going to be a bigger and bigger part of the grid going forward.

Wounded Bear

(64,323 posts)
16. My bad on the wording there. No need to get defensive. I strongly support solar...
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 11:27 AM
Sep 2022

Just saying that we don't have quite enough installation to handle peak usage in extreme temps yet.

Johnny2X2X

(24,203 posts)
17. No worries
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 11:38 AM
Sep 2022

But remember, it was wind and solar that held up the grid in Texas, the fossil fuel plans are the ones that failed.

Sympthsical

(10,966 posts)
9. Our PG&E bill is like $25 a month
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 11:00 AM
Sep 2022

And in the midst of a two week long 100+ degree heat wave, that was rather pleasant.

liberal N proud

(61,194 posts)
11. Happy to be part of that statistic with Solar Panels on my roof
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 11:05 AM
Sep 2022

When we purchased our latest home, we installed solar weeks after moving in.
We were the first in our community and we made it easier for others in the neighborhood to install them after we fought for initial approval

AllyCat

(18,840 posts)
18. We tried to put one on our house.
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 01:19 PM
Sep 2022

Prices were $13-28k even with tax credits. Could not afford.

Oldtimeralso

(1,945 posts)
19. Former president Carter built a solar farm to power his own house...
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 01:34 PM
Sep 2022

Than enlarged the footprint to provide power to the residents of Plains!!!

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