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(3,816 posts)
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 05:22 PM Sep 2022

A coup may be underway in China

1) Rumors of a military coup in #China and Xi under arrest after #CCP seniors removed him as head of the #PLA

So far no reliable sources about this, so have to treat this as just a rumor, probably not true.

But where is Xi Jinping after rushing out from the SCO Meeting?



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A coup may be underway in China (Original Post) Ex Lurker Sep 2022 OP
Maoists in disarray tirebiter Sep 2022 #1
There ain't no Maoists in China no more. OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2022 #25
The Mao Dynasty will probably last 1,000 years tirebiter Sep 2022 #37
Chinese have been capitalists for 4000 years. OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2022 #38
The average dynasty last about 3-400 years. grantcart Sep 2022 #41
WTF? . .... Lovie777 Sep 2022 #2
Almost enough to make me believe in astrology lindysalsagal Sep 2022 #13
What is the Mayans margin of error? Maybe they forgot to carry one? ZonkerHarris Sep 2022 #29
I had that exact thought the other day. Brenda Sep 2022 #44
Interesting if true. Elessar Zappa Sep 2022 #3
If true, and that is a big if, perhaps fall out from Xi aligning with Putin. Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #4
Would that be Big Trouble in Little China? (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Sep 2022 #12
.... Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #20
Anyone check to see if Kurt Russell is still in the states? odins folly Sep 2022 #23
Jack Burton would have a lot of questions Sympthsical Sep 2022 #28
More likely, a general distaste with starting a war with Taiwan. OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2022 #27
Then that is exactly what I mean, fall out from Putin and Ukraine. Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #30
I'm a partner in a a business with it BOO in Zhongshan, Guangdong, PRC. Incorparted in HK. OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2022 #33
Very interesting, thanks. Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #34
There is some natural beauty in Guangdong. OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2022 #35
The Chinese can literally move mountains. :( Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #43
We'll That Would be Out of Leftfield Beetwasher. Sep 2022 #5
Fake news. David__77 Sep 2022 #6
I doubt it. He has done such a great job controlling covid. usonian Sep 2022 #7
Looked at numerous sources and see nothing about it. Kaleva Sep 2022 #8
Who would be behind a coup? blogslug Sep 2022 #9
Looks like bullshit Effete Snob Sep 2022 #10
Last week there was a coup against Putin. So yeah right applegrove Sep 2022 #11
The people, the minions, would never attempt it, so, if true, it would have to be an even bigger lindysalsagal Sep 2022 #14
Unlikely. Could be any number of things relayerbob Sep 2022 #15
Interesting. I was in China (actually at the Great Wall) in August 1991 rsdsharp Sep 2022 #16
likely fake news, but from 2017 (per the BBC) Top Chinese officials 'plotted to overthrow Xi Jinping Celerity Sep 2022 #17
More: TheProle Sep 2022 #18
"Rumors." subterranean Sep 2022 #19
This may or may not be true, but Putin is likely to be next. liberalmuse Sep 2022 #21
Isn't there a "creative speculation" sub-forum? WarGamer Sep 2022 #22
another claim (video): 80 KM Long Line of Military Vehicles Heads to Beijing (NOT vouching for this) Celerity Sep 2022 #24
Didn't he buddy up with Putin? pwb Sep 2022 #26
Xi is dead. Romana Dildo is in charge dalton99a Sep 2022 #31
Okay, Unverified Twitter Account. nt Tommy Carcetti Sep 2022 #32
K&R UTUSN Sep 2022 #36
Could happen. OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2022 #39
The tweet has been deleted. Raine1967 Sep 2022 #40
The tweet has been deleted. Raine1967 Sep 2022 #42

OAITW r.2.0

(24,656 posts)
25. There ain't no Maoists in China no more.
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 06:47 PM
Sep 2022

Seriously, the Politburro is made up Capitalist billionaires. In my trips to China and dealing with business folks there, I never met a Moaist. In fact, the last doctrinnaire Maoist I met was in College in 1971...in the US.

tirebiter

(2,539 posts)
37. The Mao Dynasty will probably last 1,000 years
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 11:18 PM
Sep 2022

That’s always tended to happen in China. Call it the Kuo Minh Dang Dynasty, if you will. It was begun by what was, at the time, the richest family in the world. They melded communism with capitalism for endurant strength and circumstances. Nothing else matters but the dynasty. Still got your little red book? Quaint.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,656 posts)
38. Chinese have been capitalists for 4000 years.
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 11:25 PM
Sep 2022

Mao was relevant for 50 years.

That said, he kicked China into the 20th Century, Warts and all. His vision kinda sucked after booting the Nationalists out of the Country onto Taiwan in 49.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
41. The average dynasty last about 3-400 years.
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 11:39 PM
Sep 2022

Corrupt practices end up with concentrated wealth in the South and massive starvation in the North. People's army forms in the North overtakes the government and installs austere reform. Over time the trading expertise in the South starts accumulating wealth.

Dynastic Cycle starts again

Irish_Dem

(47,482 posts)
4. If true, and that is a big if, perhaps fall out from Xi aligning with Putin.
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 05:27 PM
Sep 2022

And other trouble in China right now.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,656 posts)
27. More likely, a general distaste with starting a war with Taiwan.
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 06:52 PM
Sep 2022

I know a few Chinese that think this is Xi's version of a Ukraine fanrasy.

Irish_Dem

(47,482 posts)
30. Then that is exactly what I mean, fall out from Putin and Ukraine.
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 06:57 PM
Sep 2022

As the world turns against Putin and Ukraine, the heat goes up on China and Taiwan.
China is re-thinking its plans I assume.

Edit to add: China and Russia were allies in the quest to shift world power.
Russia would take the West, China the east.

Are your friends living in China or elsewhere?

OAITW r.2.0

(24,656 posts)
33. I'm a partner in a a business with it BOO in Zhongshan, Guangdong, PRC. Incorparted in HK.
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 07:04 PM
Sep 2022

I've known some of these people since the early 90s. Some lived thru the Cultural Revolution....and none remember that time fondly.

Irish_Dem

(47,482 posts)
34. Very interesting, thanks.
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 07:14 PM
Sep 2022

So they are quite familiar with international news about Russia it seems.
And outspoken.

Guangdong is a lovely province.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,656 posts)
35. There is some natural beauty in Guangdong.
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 07:19 PM
Sep 2022

Remember on one of my 1st trips to China, I saw a lot of 3-4000 ft mountains that were 1/2 gone. I asked, what happened to the other half?

"Got converted into roads and buildings", was the answer I got.

Beetwasher.

(2,984 posts)
5. We'll That Would be Out of Leftfield
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 05:29 PM
Sep 2022

Didn’t have it my ‘22 bingo card. China coup?! Damn, that could be terrifying.

usonian

(9,909 posts)
7. I doubt it. He has done such a great job controlling covid.
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 05:30 PM
Sep 2022



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blogslug

(38,019 posts)
9. Who would be behind a coup?
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 05:36 PM
Sep 2022

I know very little about the current political atmosphere within China. Is he popular with the people or is that impossible to determine in a historically repressive country?

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
10. Looks like bullshit
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 05:37 PM
Sep 2022

A Twitter account started in May 2022 with 600 followers and purporting to be in Nepal is not going to be the first one to know about such a thing.

lindysalsagal

(20,741 posts)
14. The people, the minions, would never attempt it, so, if true, it would have to be an even bigger
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 05:50 PM
Sep 2022

power monger. So, we'd likely look back and remember "how much better things were" before 2023.

relayerbob

(6,559 posts)
15. Unlikely. Could be any number of things
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 05:51 PM
Sep 2022

From Xi consolidating power, to his getting Covid, to learning that Russia is about to use nukes, to a coup. Or, just heightened security due to the upcoming CCp meetings.

Will be interesting to watch, though. We can always hope that Xi is being tossed under the bus for someone more practical.

rsdsharp

(9,208 posts)
16. Interesting. I was in China (actually at the Great Wall) in August 1991
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 05:56 PM
Sep 2022

at the time of the coup against Gorbachev in the USSR. We were damn near run over by 2 600 series Mercedes limo running about 70 mph on a little country road. We had no idea what was going on until we got back to the hotel and got a raw feed from CNN.

The Chinese were all a flutter over what was going on in the USSR. If this news is true, I can’t imagine what will happen there.

Celerity

(43,579 posts)
17. likely fake news, but from 2017 (per the BBC) Top Chinese officials 'plotted to overthrow Xi Jinping
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 05:56 PM
Sep 2022
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-41691917

A top Chinese official has claimed several high-ranking members of the Communist Party had plotted to seize power from President Xi Jinping. These party members have since been arrested or jailed in a wide-reaching corruption crackdown launched by Mr Xi.

Some observers have said the crackdown was used to conduct a political purge of Mr Xi's opponents. The latest claim of a power struggle appears to contradict the Communist Party's unified image.

On Thursday, the chief of China's securities commissions, Liu Shiyu, listed names of six "high-ranking and powerful officials, who were hugely greedy and hugely corrupt, and who plotted to usurp the party's leadership and seize state power".

Mr Liu's list included top names whose downfalls have attracted intense scrutiny, such as former security chief Zhou Yongkang, prominent politician Bo Xilai, and Sun Zhengcai, a member of the decision-making Politburo body who was only recently expelled.

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TheProle

(2,202 posts)
18. More:
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 06:01 PM
Sep 2022
China Security Official Gets Life Imprisonment as Xi Crushes ‘Political Clique’

A Chinese court sentenced a former top security official to life in prison, completing a crackdown on the “political clique” he led just weeks before a crucial Communist Party reshuffle.

Former Vice Public Security Minister Sun Lijun, 53, was given a suspended death sentence with no possibility of parole by a court in Changchun city, Jilin province, state broadcaster China Central Television reported. He was found guilty of taking 646 million yuan ($91 million) of bribes, as well as stock manipulation and illegal gun possession, the report said.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-23/china-security-official-gets-life-in-jail-as-xi-crushes-clique?leadSource=uverify%20wall

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
21. This may or may not be true, but Putin is likely to be next.
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 06:17 PM
Sep 2022

When you start conscripting kids, fathers and grandpas off the street for a very unpopular war, people are likely to fight back.

dalton99a

(81,635 posts)
31. Xi is dead. Romana Dildo is in charge
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 07:01 PM
Sep 2022

Her title is now "Queen of Canada, Queen of the World, and Queen of China - and Defender of Dildoism"

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
40. The tweet has been deleted.
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 11:31 PM
Sep 2022

I don't know who it was from. Was it reliable source? Do you recall said source?

I ask because much as I like twitter info, there are a lot of bad actors out there. I hope you weren't fooled, and I hope that this possible disinformation is being spread on DU.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
42. The tweet has been deleted.
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 11:44 PM
Sep 2022

Perhaps this OP should be as well unless we have legit info regarding this topic.

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