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125 mph winds. Not much to be optimistic about.
Battened down the outside of the house. Have ten extra gallons of gas in the trunk. If I leave in the AM, I think I can beat the traffic rush on Tuesday, because once it starts raining it will be a pain in the neck to escape this state. Heading to Alabama, which is an hour away from Tallahassee. It's at least on higher ground. I think I dont want to go through this particular hurricane in a double wide by a lake. The cars packed with all Id still need to get by with just in case the whole house gets totaled. Cuz ya nevah know.
And as the saying goes, I don't want to go through things that don't kill me but make me stronger anymore. Especially in a DeSantis state.
With any luck I'll come back in a few days to an intact house, a standing backyard tree, and start again. Love y'all.
EDIT: See updates labeled below.
dembotoz
(16,922 posts)mgardener
(2,360 posts)roamer65
(37,953 posts)Last winter, the only bad months were January and February.
Another 20 years and our winters will be like those of present day Tennessee.
Walleye
(44,807 posts)I know what you mean. Lately for me the things that dont kill me just hurt like hell
PJMcK
(25,048 posts)Sounds like youve planned ahead. Good luck!
Polly Hennessey
(8,833 posts)Safe travel. 😊🌬💨
Gaugamela
(3,511 posts)Phoenix61
(18,828 posts)Long story but Im in Jax and my house is in the Panhandle. Not happy but I battened it down as best I could. It made it through Micheal and there arent any trees left near it so it should be fine.
Deuxcents
(26,917 posts)Phoenix61
(18,828 posts)Bay County, where Michael hit, pushed out the message that Panama City Beach was great and open for business and it was. County officials were afraid if the media accurately reported that from Panama City to Port St Joe was devastated people would cancel reservations on the beach and they would lose a bunch of money. Because of that decision the story got buried.
blm
(114,658 posts)LoisB
(13,028 posts)TigressDem
(5,126 posts)Hope people manage to get through this and vote the idiots out that make is so difficult to live there.
GoodRaisin
(10,922 posts)I wouldn't stay for 125 mph winds either. I live in eastern NC and have felt wind gusts around 100 mph before and my 2 story house was shaking. Good luck with the storm.
Stinky The Clown
(68,952 posts)W_HAMILTON
(10,333 posts)Couldn't it conceivably still take a somewhat direct hit? Even though I guess if you go far enough inland in Alabama, it might not be too bad even if it did suffer more of a direct hit...
LeftInTX
(34,295 posts)Even being 20 miles inland is a huge difference. Alabama will be fine.
However, local evacuations get crowded. Best to get out now.
However, just the process of evacuation is not without risk. More people died from trying to evacuate during Hurricane Rita than Rita. Vehicles ran out of gas. It was 100 degrees. People collapsed from heat exhaustion. After Rita, they set up evacuation zones for low lying areas, rather trying to move 6 million people across the state.

** Storm evacuees stand on the side of Highway 290 that became a parking lot as people attempt to flee the approach of Hurricane Rita in Houston on Thursday, Sept. 22, 2005. State and local officials have taken a beating for waiting until millions of Hurricane Rita evacuees had been trapped in gridlock for more than 24 hours before they opened Houston's major highways to one-way outbound traffic. But the Texas Department of Transportation says it wasn't easy to convert 487 miles of highway, including two interstates, to one-way traffic. (AP Photo/Ron Heflin, File)

During the evacuation from
Hurricane Rita, many vehicles, such as these on the side of Interstate 45 in Huntsville, either broke down or ran out of gasoline.



The worst traffic jam in Houston history began 12 years ago today
https://www.chron.com/news/houston-weather/hurricanes/article/Hurricane-Rita-9236850.php#photo-5228604
Thousands who evacuated from the Bayou City would have been better off if they had just stayed home, made a batch of margaritas and watched TV.
This is what they say about hurricanes:
Run from the water. Hunker down from the wind.
I don't know how this applies to mobile homes. I would get out. Local shelters are usually good even in Florida because they are inland.
Wind from hurricanes rarely kills
Storm surge is deadly and extremely damaging.
Spin off flooding from rain and tornados are often an inland issue. However, this is always a risk and can happen as far north as Ohio.
bluboid
(845 posts)mountain grammy
(29,035 posts)Youll be in my thoughts. Stay safe and good luck. Hoping for the best and that youre home soon.
Laffy Kat
(16,952 posts)They are prepping although they won't leave. It worries me because they are rural and surrounded by trees. Even though they aren't on the coast, they still get tornadoes that spawn off the storm. She just left Colorado, visiting me. I wish she had stayed longer.
I'm glad you're leaving. It's smart.
wnylib
(26,016 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Solly Mack
(96,943 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(36,631 posts)Got a spare room here, if you want to drive 8 or so hours away from Ian. Might be over by the time you turn around and drive back.
William769
(59,147 posts)I am stuck in a rehab center. I have to admit though I do feel safe here although I wished I could walk.
brer cat
(27,587 posts)yardwork
(69,364 posts)Joinfortmill
(21,167 posts)LeftInTX
(34,295 posts)BigmanPigman
(55,137 posts)especially in your case.
Please keep us up to date on your situation.
ancianita
(43,307 posts)Take care, Bill. Please keep us posted.
ancianita
(43,307 posts)Take care, Bill. Please keep us posted.
littlemissmartypants
(33,588 posts)It's always better to be able to live to tell about it. One hundred twenty five mph winds sounds really scary. I know I couldn't bare it. I think you're definitely making the best decision for the circumstances. It's hard to lose stuff but it's only stuff and you are way more valuable. Good luck! Safe travels! Stay encouraged.
❤️ pants
niyad
(132,440 posts)if you can. You know your DU fmily is here for you.
MLAA
(19,745 posts)Shanti Shanti Shanti
(12,047 posts)NHC models seem to be converging a little more, its going to be a shitshow on the highways if it continues along that path
tosh
(4,453 posts)I was fully traumatized by H. Michael even though my pets and I evacuated to my ancestral grounds in Georgia. Were still here.
Be safe, best of luck on the drive and throughout.
SlimJimmy
(3,251 posts)The are going to hunker down and hope for the best. Not the choice I'd make, but it's up to them.
tavernier
(14,443 posts)but we found over the years that once you make a plan, stick to it, because hurricanes can change their mind within miles or minutes and then its too late to change yours. So good job and good luck and hope when you come back the only thing different is a nice freshly washed trailer.
alwaysinasnit
(5,624 posts)TeamProg
(6,630 posts)My wife and I have been fire evacuated twice in five years and we also had to live elsewhere for a while when the Mono Winds snapped the 130 ft ponderosa pine in our driveway through our bedroom ceiling at 2:30 am in Jan of 2021. We couldve been killed. Tree missed us by 7 feet.
Best of luck to you. Stay alive!
pnwest
(3,466 posts)Jay25
(437 posts)Cha
(319,077 posts)your home intact after the winds die down, ancianita
SilasSouleII
(486 posts)n/t
stollen
(1,143 posts)If not, everyone be safe.
LetMyPeopleVote
(179,869 posts)Be careful
Dorian Gray
(13,850 posts)decision. Be safe, and hope you come back to an intact home with no flooding or damage. Best to you and your loved ones/friends.
malaise
(296,114 posts)I have a good friend who only has to hear about a hurricane warning and shes on her way to her sister in Georgia.
Emile
(42,289 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)CaptainTruth
(8,201 posts)Thankfully we're on the east coast near Cape Canaveral so our house should be fine but it still makes me nervous that I won't be there to do anything, like hookup & start the generator if we lose power.
Good luck & be safe!!!
BumRushDaShow
(169,760 posts)I have already started texting family down in GA to keep a close eye on this storm since it is an efficient rain-maker, along with the winds. Me and my weather buddies up here also have an eye on it as this area seems to have "a thing" with "I" storms (Isabel, Ivan, Irene, isias, Ida).
I also just found this for up here (probably due to all the rivers and feeder creeks across the state)
A study from First Street Foundation found that Pennsylvania is at high risk for structural damage from flooding, both from natural and manmade disasters.
By Harrison Cann
March 9, 2022
From Johnstown to the remnants of Hurricane Ida, almost every town in the commonwealth has a flood story. In 1972, the remnants of Hurricane Agnes battered the Harrisburg area, causing more than $13 billion in damage in 2022 dollars and forcing Gov. Milton Shapp to evacuate the governors mansion. Just a few years later, Johnstown experienced the third most devastating flood in its history, resulting in 84 deaths and damages totaling $2 billion in 2022 dollars. Then, in 2004, the remnants of Hurricane Ivan swept through central Pennsylvania causing more than $300 million in damages.
While officials at all levels of government have worked to improve flood prevention, mitigation and recovery efforts in the decades since these disasters, a troubling new report indicates that they may still not be ready for whats to come. A study conducted by the nonprofit research and technology group First Street Foundation analyzing the potential impact of increased flooding has found that the commonwealth trails only Florida for potential structural damage, and that three Pennsylvania cities are at serious risk of office, retail, and residential damage. The foundations 4th National Risk Assessment on Climbing Commercial Closures takes into account the potential structural damage, lost days of operation and downstream economic impacts based on current and future estimates of flood hazards.
The analysis, which measured the flood risks and impacts in metropolitan areas, found that Pittsburgh, Philadelphia and Harrisburg will face significant damage-related losses, and that Pennsylvania as a whole will see the second-highest aggregate total structural damage costs of $1.22 billion among all states this year. As flooding severity and frequency changes along with a changing climate, increasing commercial flood risk understanding is especially important, according to the study. Understanding the flood risk to commercial markets is crucial to providing communities and policymakers the information needed to guide investment, mitigation, and adaptation.

Flood Map: The dots represent the model's expectation of flood risk in a given area, with darker dots representing increasing depth, severity, and likelihood of flood. (First Street Foundation)
In the Pittsburgh region, about 36% of all office, retail and multi-unit residential properties are at risk of flooding this year. The regions total estimated damages amount to nearly $450 million the third-highest in the nation. Philadelphia, with an estimated $208 million in damages, and Harrisburg, with an estimated $148 million in damages, rank 11th and 15th in the nation, respectively.
(snip)
https://www.cityandstatepa.com/politics/2022/03/pennsylvania-could-be-second-most-flooded-state-2022-behind-florida-new-study-shows/364205/
ancianita
(43,307 posts)Speaking of the troublesome I's, let me throw in Irma, which took our house's back porch off in 2017. Now it's built back better and probably will hold the whole house down with Ian.
You know, the PA flooding seems like such a waste. It seems like our recent infrastructure plan could help innovate the moving of water. My oldest son in Newcastle, AU, has mentioned their cistern system, with diversionary flood drains toward them. Fresh water is so valuable now, one would think we'd have devised a way to send water pipelines from cisterns (or some other catch basin system) to drought areas out West, especially red states.
BumRushDaShow
(169,760 posts)I think we may have had some rain sweep in here from Irma but not like some of the other "I"s that had a path (plus connection with fronts) to throw the remnants up over us.
They have been trying to work on fixing and enhancing the watersheds around the area to do what you are suggesting - for better stormwater management. But I agree that somehow there should be some kind of pipeline - or even something akin to how they are doing the Strategic Petroleum (Oil) reserve and be able to bank it somewhere. It's a difficult thing to think about due to the extreme deficits in parts of the country but we know where the "flood plains" are and taking advantage of that needs to be factored in.
Hell... thousands of years ago, Egyptians figured out the annual cycle of the Nile floods and worked out a way to take advantage of it - and that was a number of millennia before the Aswan dam was built!
I know California as aqueducts to take the snowmelt but perhaps an updated version of that needs to be developed elsewhere.
Demsrule86
(71,542 posts)electric_blue68
(26,856 posts)Old Crank
(7,078 posts)Hope things work out.
I looked at some weather predictions. They are all over the map but some indicate what could be a very rapid escalation after Cuba.
Good idea to get out as early as possible.
Judi Lynn
(164,124 posts)It's a good time to be somewhere else.
Best wishes.
Paladin
(32,354 posts)mgardener
(2,360 posts)lark
(26,081 posts)yardwork
(69,364 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)I could have written your post almost word for word in your position, including concern for my tree. Chances are very good, of course, that your home will be just fine when you return, but fingers crossed anyway.
IrishAfricanAmerican
(4,471 posts)Stay safe.
Niagara
(11,851 posts)Please keep us posted when you can.
dawn5651
(774 posts)Joinfortmill
(21,167 posts)mia
(8,480 posts)Glad you're safe in Alabama.
hamsterjill
(17,577 posts)Sounds like you have a very rational plan. I am sending you all good vibes, and as is my practice, I will say a prayer. I have several friends who live in Florida, and like you, they are prepping and concerned.
Stay safe.
DownriverDem
(7,014 posts)moving. How good could Florida be with their storms and politics?
ancianita
(43,307 posts)here I am, post-COVID exile, slammin' DeSantis and pushing Charlie Crist and Val badass Demings on social media every chance I get.
I hope DU'ers donate to them so us FL Democrats can join y'all in a winning lap!
rubbersole
(11,223 posts)everyone should be fortunate enough to have your wisdom and the means to act on it. We live on the east coast of Florida (New Smyrna area) and are increasingly petrified this time of year. The term "superstorm" is becoming common and has a particularly nasty ring to it. The number of new complacent residents in Florida that have never been through the worst of, or aftermath of, 100+mph winds could be devastating. Please keep us posted on everything...
LeftInTX
(34,295 posts)Hopefully traffic wasn't bad and that you have accommodations at your destination.

I think DeSantis is worse than any hurricane.....
Will he be pulling one of his Texas stunts during all of this?
cilla4progress
(26,525 posts)Stay safe and stay in touch!
Greybnk48
(10,724 posts)I'll be watching for your all clear post in the coming days.
ancianita
(43,307 posts)I've been in four major hurricanes in my life -- enough for one lifetime.
Made it to Dothan, Alabama. Pretty little town, where the wind won't get above 20 mph and the land is dry and green. It's a beautiful state, really, and so far, I've met very nice folks and no trumpculties. On the road I counted at least twenty electrical trucks, in groups of 3-5, speeding in the opposite direction toward Florida.
I'll return home when I know there is electricity and the roads aren't jammed.
If you can, fellow Floridians, please share what you experienced, or heard about, since you're at the tip of Ian's spear.
You are tough as nails, because to withstand hours of roaring wind, rain and loud bangs of wreckage will change you.
THANK EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU FOR YOUR CARE AND SUPPORT!
Shanti Shanti Shanti
(12,047 posts)Tis coming, 2 million people on the road from Tampa metro?, won't be a hotel left in GA
Starting to ramp up...

ancianita
(43,307 posts)I was in Zone D, which didn't call for evacs, but with a house on a lake, and 5" - 10"+ of sky rain and even more in runoff, I knew ducks would probably be swimming in my sloped yard.
That's a scary spinning bucket of water you posted, thanks.
Another question, why would they head to GA when that's the path Ian takes?!
They should be going outside the hurricane cone because, as malaise says, Ian is a whirlpool of cascading water.
When you're trying to drive out of a hurricane path, the greater danger is water.
By Tuesday, alternative routes will get folks out of the state faster than 75 and 95.
Nevilledog
(55,081 posts)Glad you made it safely!
LetMyPeopleVote
(179,869 posts)mercuryblues
(16,413 posts)Take what you can, like photos and other stuff that you can fit in your car.
stay safe.
SYFROYH
(34,214 posts)Good luck.
Snackshack
(2,587 posts)Everything else
even sentimental items at the end of the day is just stuff and can be replaced
you cant be.
Sending good vibes your way, hoping as you say you are back in a day or two with an intact house and a standing tree in the backyard.
dchill
(42,660 posts)calimary
(90,021 posts)It's now Monday late morning - and I hope the danger's passed.
I guess I fell asleep last night before I finished this post. Sorry about that.
Sugarcoated
(8,240 posts)I'll keep you in my thoughts, Ancianita
ancianita
(43,307 posts)by "authorities" to evacuate and when they do, today and tomorrow, they'll be running into planetary downpour as they go where they're directed.
And will make getting to safety all the more stressful and crazy.
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ancianita
(43,307 posts)They'll probably take off by air so as not to add to the glut of traffic.
HillbillyDaoist
(93 posts)So...by using the example trump set, no federal aid should be sent because DeSatan has been mean to Biden. Right?
ancianita
(43,307 posts)So ... should we stoop to their level? Never.
Biden says he's the president of EVERYBODY, and he acts like it. He's country over party as president.
Unlike Trump, who's only unconditionally president for himself and conditionally for everybody else, even the Republican Party. The condition? Loyalty. Rule of Men. He's Trump over party over country.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,665 posts)jaxexpat
(7,794 posts)ancianita
(43,307 posts)there is no drainage. The muck, dirt will linger and a huge pestilence will hit areas with unevaporated, standing water. Then the mold malingers afterward.
Recovery from water damage takes forever, and often, people just tear stuff down and rebuild.
duhneece
(4,510 posts)UGADawg
(501 posts)moved to Florida from the North. Now for many reasons they are fleeing to Georgia and North Carolina. (They moved half back to the North.)
ancianita
(43,307 posts)Because it's so true.
That said, I've also seen a lot of Georgia plates here. I think they don't want the heavy rains and wind, either.
True Blue American
(18,579 posts)Was enough for me.
Family member in Tampa/ SP area to evacuate.
BaeBnakes99
(36 posts)Good thinking to evacuate. There is an individual on youtube.. the channel Tropical Tidbits, whom I like a lot and think his technical updates on hurricanes are really great. No fuss just the facts as they unfold; every half day or so. Levi Cohen on twitter.
ancianita
(43,307 posts)SergeStorms
(20,591 posts)My Mom used to live in Ft. Myers before she had enough and moved inland. She had her "hurricane kit" ready at all times.
Get the heck out of town. Lets hope its not another year than brings storm after storm like 2004. Get on some high ground and hunker down. You can replace things, but you are irreplaceable, my dear ancianita.
ancianita
(43,307 posts)I'm in slammin' Alabama. High and dry in Dothan. Hangin' out and checking the locals.
Awww, you warm my heart, Serge.
SergeStorms
(20,591 posts)but never stayed there. You'll be safe there. It'll be rainy, so don't get wet. Being made from sugar you'd melt, and we wouldn't want that!
OK, I've spread the fertilizer thick enough around here. 😉 Stay safe my friend.
Evolve Dammit
(21,777 posts)ancianita
(43,307 posts)Evolve Dammit
(21,777 posts)appalachiablue
(44,024 posts)ancianita
(43,307 posts)rail on about the environmental endangerment that floods of climate change are for us humans. And how authoritarians like DeSantis twist disaster and pandemics into dramas and blame games and outright defamation of those who want power to the people.
Journalism never goes after this anti-democratic playbook because it's owned, too. Only live action real civic journalists can force honesty into journalism that loves to report the slow roll wreckage but never who/what caused it.
LetMyPeopleVote
(179,869 posts)ancianita
(43,307 posts)and they'll just progress below speed limits and get caught up in constant downpours. Orlando might not be flooded but by the time they get there they'll have slogged through interstate rivers of water, anyway.
If you've got a car and didn't head out of state, there's only higher ground to get to but really no escape from Ian.
akbacchus_BC
(5,830 posts)ancianita
(43,307 posts)bluestarone
(22,179 posts)Let us know if you can! Be safe is the BEST thing to do.
ancianita
(43,307 posts)I'm not returning until friends let me know that electricity's on and the FDOT reports normal traffic.
The worst effects are the flooding after the hurricane's gone. For weeks, since there's so little ground above sea level,
there is no drainage and slow evaporation. The muck, dirt will linger, and a huge pestilence of mosquitoes will hit most people in areas with unevaporated, standing water. Then the mold malingers afterward.
Recovery from water damage takes forever, and often, people just tear stuff down and rebuild. There's only the hope that dry season begins soon and discourages mold buildup in non-brick structures.
ancianita
(43,307 posts)At least that's what I think the chart and comments indicate.
https://downdetector.com/status/fpl/bradenton/
MY town's electricity is still on! YAY!

malaise
(296,114 posts)Stay safe
ancianita
(43,307 posts)malaise
(296,114 posts)Well done sis
ancianita
(43,307 posts)ABC Action Weather just showed this 5 pm map.
https://ewscripps.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/6ca9491/2147483647/strip/true/crop/1280x720+0+0/resize/1280x720!/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fewscripps-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fe1%2Fd7%2F7613acb14edca9edc39ef2a870fc%2Ftrack-storm1.jpg
My neighbor down the street from me said:
"The 5 p.m. track is in. The storm will continue NE with the strongest winds in Sarasota, Manatee, DeSoto, Hardee and Polk counties with a gradual weakening trend to a Cat 1 by 2 a.m.
WOOHOO!!!!!
Please take note of the wind speeds and also take note of the cone!
We are exactly on the left, outer edge of the cone, if not entirely out of the cone. Also take note the path has changed to our favor.
I will say this, with relative certainty, this evening we will experience a moderation of wind and reach a plateau, then it will begin to subside.
From that point, it's merely a matter of when we decide to crack open the champagne!"
So, with the electricity still on, and if the Florida Dept of Transportation says roads are passable, I think I can head back sooner than expected. Feeling relief.
And optimistic.
crickets
(26,168 posts)ancianita
(43,307 posts)home.
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