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NanceGreggs

(27,835 posts)
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 01:58 AM Sep 2022

A "Christian Nation"?

It looks so good on paper - not the idea of a national religion, but the notion of the teachings of Christ influencing the actions of politicians who claim to be his true followers.

If Christ's own words held any sway with those who pretend to adhere to them, the homeless would all be sheltered, the sick would all be cared for, the hungry would all be fed, and every stranger would be welcomed at the border with open arms.

The obvious problem here is that the self-proclaimed followers of the Nazarene are the same people who openly despise everything he said, everything he preached, and everything he stood for.

The legendary myth of the anti-Christ - a person or group of people determined to undermine the true tenets of Christianity - is now up-and-running in the Republican party. And their cries for establishing a "Christian Nation" have nothing to do with Jesus, but have everything to do with convenient political pretense.

When Republican politicians start feeding the hungry, sheltering the homeless, et cetera, I'll credit them for their "Christianity". But I'm not holding my breath waiting for the GOP to acknowledge that their idea of being Christ's disciples isn't about being thy brother's keeper, but about fucking your fellow citizens for thirty pieces of silver - while supplies last.

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A "Christian Nation"? (Original Post) NanceGreggs Sep 2022 OP
Jesus said, "Trick those brown strangers into going elsewhere; let others feed them." Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2022 #1
WWJD? Skittles Sep 2022 #2
They find the Sermon on the Mount irrelevant but some obscure... TreasonousBastard Sep 2022 #3
Maybe our elected Democrats in Congress KS Toronado Sep 2022 #4
Well said. Rhiannon12866 Sep 2022 #5
The well cited opening of Article 11 of the 1797 Treatry of Tripoli DFW Sep 2022 #6
The founding fathers weren't overtly anti-religion, but they knew the dangers of religion Major Nikon Sep 2022 #7
+1 Emile Sep 2022 #10
Connect the dots no_hypocrisy Sep 2022 #8
A lot of people end up dead if we go with #2 Genki Hikari Sep 2022 #12
"When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross" Emile Sep 2022 #9
Evangelicals ignore Christs New Testament pwb Sep 2022 #11
This is from our republicon Tennessee governor... spanone Sep 2022 #13
Wow, unbelievable! Emile Sep 2022 #14
Bingo! nancy1942 Sep 2022 #15
Nationalist Christians...or Nat-Cs for short...nt Wounded Bear Sep 2022 #16
Spot on, as always. niyad Sep 2022 #17
K&R Blue Owl Sep 2022 #18

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
1. Jesus said, "Trick those brown strangers into going elsewhere; let others feed them."
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 02:01 AM
Sep 2022

Oh, wait, no that was DeSatan who did that.

Now Jesus is suing DeSatan and the one who can save Florida is Crist. What a world.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mad.248428/gov.uscourts.mad.248428.1.0.pdf

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
3. They find the Sermon on the Mount irrelevant but some obscure...
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 02:46 AM
Sep 2022

writing in the OT that most Jews ignore to hang their hats on.
,
Btw, in 1790, Washington spoke at a long established Jewish temple in Rhode Island and made it crystal clear that the US was not a Christian nation, as that sort of talk caused millenia of death and destruction throughout Europe.

KS Toronado

(23,866 posts)
4. Maybe our elected Democrats in Congress
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 03:56 AM
Sep 2022

should get in the habit of asking repugs when debating on legislation....

Is that what Christians would do?

WWJD?

Throw Bible verses at them that relate.

DFW

(60,429 posts)
6. The well cited opening of Article 11 of the 1797 Treatry of Tripoli
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 04:36 AM
Sep 2022

"As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion............"

The radical right has been trying to negate that one for a long time, but they don't have much of a leg to stand on if they are going to start calling the founding fathers godless traitors.

Major Nikon

(36,927 posts)
7. The founding fathers weren't overtly anti-religion, but they knew the dangers of religion
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 05:04 AM
Sep 2022

At that time the idea of separation of church and state was a radical concept. European nations received their authority to govern from the church, not the people. The trap people fall into is the idea the religion is always a benevolent force for good or even should be any of those things often quoting some religious text as to what they should be doing. Meanwhile history has conclusively shown religion has always been a tool used to placate and control the masses while enriching those who wield that power. Trying to use religion to try to defeat someone who uses religion for nefarious purposes inevitably fails. If an incurious and obviously immoral clown like the orange dipshit can use religion to his benefit, why would anyone think more religion is the answer to that problem? Religion requires the suspension of reason. The attempt to combine those two things is doomed to fail. Instead we should be exposing organized religion for what it is, and how it’s used.

no_hypocrisy

(55,377 posts)
8. Connect the dots
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 05:26 AM
Sep 2022

1. Make this nation a Christian Nation in more than name only.
2. Pass legislation based on the tenets of the New Testament. Penalties for blasphemy and stuff. Maybe jail and floggings. Biblical executions (e.g., throwing rocks).
3. And since these RWNJs consider TFG to be Jesus, Parte II, "He" makes the law for all of us.
4. Trying to reverse a switch to Christian Totalitarianism will be near impossible. (I often consider the Founding Fathers to be a fluke. They had to have had to deal with their own version of colonial RWNJs.)

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
12. A lot of people end up dead if we go with #2
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 09:53 AM
Sep 2022

You can bet that we'll all have to pay tithes to "a" flocker church. Will any tithe cheats get executed for failure to pay what is "promised," a la Ananias and Sapphira?

Red letters are pretty clear about being against divorce, so it would have to go. That will put a big dent in evangelical love lives, given that they have the highest divorce rates in the nation.

And then there's that bringing a sword thing for anyone who refuses to follow the religion. It will start with families having to shun any relatives who won't do that. Of course, what to do with the shunned? Gee--let's try concentration camps and executions. Why wait for hell to do the job, when you can do it in the here and now?

There's that line about jots and tittles and the laws always being the laws, which will make all the pesky OT laws enforceable. Time to marry your rapists, rural women, or to win an honor killing if you're in a city!

And slavery is back on the menu, too! Never mind how it will kill the tourism industry, since it's okay to enslave foreigners, even those just visiting. It's a small price to pay to be right with the guy in the sky.

People should be really careful what they ask for with wanting a nation following this religion. They just might get it.

pwb

(12,802 posts)
11. Evangelicals ignore Christs New Testament
Mon Sep 26, 2022, 07:33 AM
Sep 2022

All their answers and grips come from the Od Testament. Not Christian at all.

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