Holy Shit - it's Cat5

[malaise]

This will be a Katrina level economic disaster
Miami Dade now on TS watch.
Watching live press conference on Local 10

[Walleye]

1. I sure hope they don't have to chop through the roofs to get people out of the attic

[malaise]

2. Biden's FEMA will be way better

Dumbya was a disaster

[Walleye]

5. FEMA will do a good job, and DeSantis will try and take all the credit while badmouthing Biden

I would bet money on it

[malaise]

20. DeathSentene is holding his press conference at the same time as the Head of FEMA

He is about thoughts and prayers - she is about details. Her own started first - he's an asshole.

[Ilsa]

23. Unlike NJ Gov C. Christie, DeSatan won't be seen in front of cameras

walking and talking to a Democratic Pres.

[Walleye]

26. That's absolutely correct. We'll see

[jimfields33]

10. A lot was learned from Katrina.

FEMA already on the ground and working their butts off. Katrina they didn’t even have anything ready so it’s a totally different situation. FEMA will succeed this one.

[wnylib]

52. Katrina was a cat 5, too, but dropped to

cat 3 by the time it struck New Orleans. NO was vulnerable because it is delta marsh that is under sea level with buildings on top. Levees did not hold up.

Florida is marshy in many areas, but is not a low lying bowl for trapping water like happened in NO.

But, it will be very bad for FL coastal regions, bays, and inlets. The surge will be like a tsunami.

I heard on NPR that Tampa Bay waters have lowered, like happens before a tsunami wave hits. People are being warned not to go onto exposed Bay land to see it because the waters will surge back.

[Ferrets are Cool]

3. At least we know that OUR President will not leave families on roofs for days and days...

while he eats birthday cake.

[Walleye]

4. Yes our president cares about everybody,all people He's president to all Americans

[SheltieLover]

24. Or throw a few rolls of paper towels at them!

[OMGWTF]

41. Trump Paper Towels-- Now more Self-Absorbant!

[Lucinda]

56. ❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️

[flying rabbit]

61. Nice

[Lochloosa]

6. There won't be a roof to chop through. Hopefully they have left.

[Walleye]

9. They are saying that many people did not evacuate Port Charlotte. This is not gonna be good

[Lochloosa]

12. Port Charlotte will be gone if it stays on the predicted path.

[Walleye]

14. I'm looking at all these big expensive boats tied up in Fort Myers,Where will they be

This time tomorrow?I expect to see them scattered and destroyed all over the shoreline. My friends have a apartment in Fort Lauderdale and a boat which they bring back up here every summer because they can’t get it insured in Florida

[jmowreader]

57. I have never understood why "big expensive boats" are ever damaged by hurricanes

Why, exactly, do the owners of these vessels not put the plywood over their house windows, fill their boats with diesel and head for Norfolk at flank speed? It gets the boat out of danger AND it gets your family out of danger. Your house is probably fucked whether you are there or not, and getting the yacht out of the storm path at least gives you a place to stay after you get back until you can return the home to habitability.

[G2theD]

43. I just heard storm surge up to 18 feet!

Anyone in a 1 floor ranch is going to be SOL.
People thinking the will just ride it out could be in for quite the wild ride. I’ll never understand the people that don’t evacuate when told to. They will probably regret it dearly.

Let’s hope for the best possible outcome, but it may not be enough.

[Earth-shine]

7. I'm in Delray Beach. We received emergency alerts about tornadoes on our phones warning us to take

shelter in our basements (or other secure area of the house).

The only one with a basement around here is Trump at MAGA-lara.

Those alerts are loud. We heard them across the house.

[jimfields33]

13. Yeah that's pretty stupid saying go to the basement

I certainly don’t have a basement neither do any of my neighbors and we’re in a big 2500 home development. As far as the loud announcement, it is definitely a nuisance but it gets everybody’s attention.

[ananda]

38. I know. Who has basements in a swamp?

???

[cate94]

53. Other than a basement

The next most secure location would be a bathroom. You think it is silly for them to tell you to go to the basement? Imagine them telling you to go to the bathroom.

Stay safe.

[FalloutShelter]

8. Please...

Focus your energy on sending vibes and prepare to send money, food and clothing. Contact your local relief orgs. and ask what they are preparing to do. volunteer.

See if you can offer to take in some of those who will not be able to return for a while as we did during Katrina as far north as NYS.

Thanks Mal for your energy in following and updating the storm.

[ornotna]

11. Yep

And forecast to come ashore just south of me. Power just blinked out for a few seconds, back on now.

But for not too long I imagine.

All the hatches have been battened down so it’s just a waiting game now.

[malaise]

17. Stay safe

Last edited Wed Sep 28, 2022, 11:43 AM - Edit history (1)

[ornotna]

42. Thanks

I can't believe I still have power right now.

Not for long I imagine.

[wnylib]

62. Where are you? I have relatives in

Safety Harbor - western Tampa Bay area.

[RAB910]

15. God is punishing Florida for Ron DeSantis

Where are those preachers that talk about storms targeting the US for being "too gay"?

[LetMyPeopleVote]

16. This is a scary storm

Link to tweet

[malaise]

18. Three of the worst combos

Horrific wind, slowing down and unbelievable rain.

[malaise]

19. Holy Shit is rightt

This is not good

[Torchlight]

21. Is it predicted to hit the coast as a Cat5?

Or weaken somewhat prior to reaching land?

And though I know it's a bigger storm than normal, does the eye of a hurricane grow in relation to the actual size of its parent, or is there a size limit to how big an eye can get?

[malaise]

22. Looks like almost Cat5 at landfall

[LeftInTX]

58. Fuck...It went from 115 to 155 mph in 24 hours.

Pressure is 937 mb.

[Chainfire]

25. This one is going to be a killer.

There is not many single family homes that can stand up to those kinds of winds without catastrophic damage. The storm, taking it's time coming ashore, is going to be pushing more and more water on the land.

[Larissa]

55. This is a monster

And a dramatic example of how our weather has become treacherous. I pray that all in its path reach safety.

[Ilsa]

27. 12-16 foot storm surge. Charlotte Harbor flowing in reverse:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217202475

[malaise]

28. Frightening

Hmmmmmmmmmm - could there be a tidal wave?

[txwhitedove]

33. I think yes. Katrina tidal surge took out swaths of homes in Bay St Louis, MS. We were

just up the road from the bay and heard the concrete bridge to Pass Christian go down, but didn't know that's what it was. Talk about bug eyed fear alert. Then quiet, then water started rising up the hill and into the house. Sorry, brings up memories and I feel so strongly for all in Ian's path.

[PatrickforB]

30. This is the problem with DeSantis and the rest of the Republicans down there.

More interesting in ideology than actually governing.

They have refused to address the flood insurance issue down there. The result - most insurance companies that provided flood insurance have left the state, and the few that are left are engaged in massive price gouging. Many of the people down there don't even have flood insurance coverage because they can't afford it.

And in the meantime DeSantis is getting asylum seekers who came here legally and flying them to Martha's Vinyard. Why in the heck do that? Just plain hate, that's why.

Now there is going to be billions in damage, a bunch of people will die, and we will all have to chip in to send US tax dollars down to Florida in the form of aid.

Honestly, I would like to see DeSantis in an orange jumpsuit behind bars.

[BittyJenkins]

31. I am lighting a candle right now.

Be safe.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

32. This is very important but would also like to watch Hurricane Ginny and Tempest Clarence coverage!

[flamingdem]

34. I'm here and so far have power

but over on the coast they do not.

Fingers crossed ...

[herding cats]

39. Stay safe!

My thoughts are with all of you there going through this today.

[herding cats]

65. Let us know when you can how you're doing.

[flamingdem]

66. Finally got power back!

[malaise]

67. Great news

Hope you and yours are OK.

[herding cats]

68. Yay! I'm glad you're ok!

[RedSpartan]

35. This would have quite literally destroyed Tampa if it hadn't moved south the last day or so.

Tampa dodged another bullet, but won't be able to forever.

[spanone]

36. K&R

[Snackshack]

37. That was quick.

Was still Cat 2 when I saw news yesterday. Wow.

[ismnotwasm]

40. So scary

Everyone stay safe.

[Danascot]

44. 170 mph winds!

Link to tweet

[getagrip_already]

45. Everything we thought we knew about hurricane development is being rewritten

Going from a cat 1 to a cat 5 (or a couple mph close to) with adverse conditions like wind shear and dry air wrapping in, all in a day or two, isn't what we are used to.

Of course the water is 89 degrees (~ 5 degrees higher than usual). So climate change is hitting the overdrive.

This isn't your grandfathers hurricane - literally.

stay safe florida.

[malaise]

47. Maria strengthened even faster

and mashed up several islands starting with Dominica.
The real problem here is that Florida is so flat. This could be the worst hurricane in Florida history

[getagrip_already]

59. I think the NHC knows about maria.....

But this storm is hitting faster, harder, and stronger than even they forecast a day ago.

Hurricanes are hard to forecast, but usually the 24 hour view is pretty good. 5 days out, not so much.

What is really frosting their noodle is the speed of the eye replacement cycle that occurred over night. The reformed eye is now larger than many hurricanes.

This isn't normal, even by maria's standards.

[malaise]

60. What we know is that they are strengthening faster

Maria originated from a well-defined tropical wave that departed the west coast of Africaon 12 September. The system moved westward over the tropical Atlantic for the next few days while producing scattered and disorganized deep convection. By 15 September, showers and
thunderstorms increased and began to show signs of organization, with some curved cloud bands developing. Deep convection then quickly became more consolidated and better organized, and it is estimated that a tropical depression formed about 580 n mi east of Barbados by 1200 UTC
16 September. The “best track” chart of the tropical cyclone’s path is given in Fig. 1, with the ind and pressure histories shown in Figs. 2 and 3, respectively. The best track positions and intensities are listed in Table 12.

Moving westward to the south of a mid-level high pressure area, the cyclone strengthened into a tropical storm around 1800 UTC on 16 September. Maria turned toward the west-northwest shortly thereafter, and quickly intensified into a hurricane by 1800 UTC on 17 September. While situated in an environment of warm sea surface temperatures and light vertical shear, the
hurricane strengthened extremely rapidly. Maria became a 100-kt major hurricane by 1200 UTC18 September, and just 1 h later, as it neared Dominica, it became a category 5 hurricane with maximum winds of 145 kt. The hurricane made landfall on the island with that intensity and an
estimated minimum central pressure of 922 mb around 0115 UTC 19 September.
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/data/tcr/AL152017_Maria.pdf

[AllaN01Bear]

46. good grief.

holy eep.

[roamer65]

48. Life at 500ppm CO2e.

It’s just gonna get worse from here.

, malaise!

[malaise]

49. Yep

Humans did this to ourselves

[NowISeetheLight]

50. DeSantis Reckoning

Perfect timing. We will see how Gov "DontSayGay" handles a real emergency and not some political bullet point like "Wokeism". It's going to be bad. I feel for the people of Florida. Still, it's hard not to hope he totally screws this up. At least Biden will be there to save the day. This won't be a repeat of Bush-Katrina.

[malaise]

51. Arrogance and lack of l empathy will be hismundoing

If I WEERE A Democratic Party activist I’d spread the reality that he is bad luck and bad for Florida.
Nature is boss.

[NowISeetheLight]

64. Climate Wokism?

Maybe he can ban hurricanes like he bans books?

[honest.abe]

54. Latest NWS advisory say Cat 4. The next advisory is at 2pm.

BULLETIN
Hurricane Ian Advisory Number 24
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL092022
1100 AM EDT Wed Sep 28 2022

...EXTREMELY DANGEROUS EYEWALL OF IAN MOVING ONSHORE...
...IAN WILL CAUSE CATASTROPHIC STORM SURGE, WINDS, AND FLOODING IN
THE FLORIDA PENINSULA SOON...


SUMMARY OF 1100 AM EDT...1500 UTC...INFORMATION
-----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...26.3N 82.5W
ABOUT 45 MI...75 KM WNW OF NAPLES FLORIDA
ABOUT 50 MI...80 KM SSW OF PUNTA GORDA FLORIDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...155 MPH...250 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NNE OR 15 DEGREES AT 9 MPH...15 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...937 MB...27.67 INCHES

I would not be surprised if it has strengthened suddenly but officially its still Cat 4.

[Treefrog]

63. CNN and every weather source I'm watching says

it's still a Cat 4.

"Just shy" of a 5 is what is being said.

It's still a catastrophic storm; no need to embellish.