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Conventional wisdom lays this at Putin's feet. But I don't see what it buys him. It removes his leverage. He could stop and start it at will, depending on what the Europeans do regarding Ukraine.
Am I missing something?
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DetroitLegalBeagle
(2,502 posts)Logically, it doesn't make much sense for Putin/Russia to do it. But few countries have the capabilities to do so. Of course, Putin may no longer be thinking logically...
mitch96
(15,799 posts)Walleye
(44,729 posts)BeyondGeography
(41,085 posts)Its about more than Nord Stream. All underwater infrastructure is potentially at risk. Nothing to prevent sleeper drones from hitting other pipelines, data cables, you name it. Its Vlad saying see what we can do to try and crack the Euros.
He did it. Plain as day.
uponit7771
(93,532 posts)... of the pipeline were blown up?!
Yep, the places Germany was going to tap into it to send LNG to itself and the rest of Europe and in 3 different places which doesn't spell natural explosion at all.
This was Russia, they want to slow down Germanies gargantuan switch to LNG because Putrid thought he had Europe by the minerals when it came to gas this winter at least ... he doesn't.
IINM Germany can still make its needs without a floating LNG station and IMHO would be safer to keep it land based seeing Russia wants to blow stuff up in the sea.
grumpyduck
(6,672 posts)like Fucker did on RU TV.
underpants
(196,410 posts)I got into it with cultists on Twitter who said it was Biden or CIA or .wait for it ANTIFA. Seriously.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)But, that aside, yes something is being missed in the OP and the thread.
Putin is not the only person in Russia.
Quite a few Russians make quite a bit of money in the energy business, and have an interest in keeping the gas flowing.
If Putin wants to shut it off, then blowing it up ends the debate within Russia.
Freethinker65
(11,203 posts)BeyondGeography
(41,085 posts)ck4829
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(7,638 posts)jmowreader
(53,168 posts)Nordstrom is a great department store with really awesome service.
Bobstandard
(2,291 posts)I would sabotage it but my wife would be pissed. .
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)Johnny2X2X
(24,174 posts)Whats weird is this pipeline wasnt yet active. So whats the point?
FrankChurchDem
(12,692 posts)They've been signalling all along that they wish to disrupt the current world order and extract maximum pain on Europe. And restricting flows with the "under maintenance" and "undelivered equipment" veneer was wearing very thin. This is a permanent solution and no more need to trot out the lame excuses they've been using. In Putin's mind, Europe is no longer a viable market, why keep up the pretense? It also signals that the boogeyman can disrupt other pipelines, such as the Norwegian line.