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LetMyPeopleVote

(180,686 posts)
Fri Sep 30, 2022, 08:42 AM Sep 2022

As Supreme Court's standing falters, Alito pushes flawed defense

The public approval of the SCOTUS has crashed due the actions of partisan hacks like Alito. The overturning of Roe was not simply a poorly written decision that relied on on 16th century witch hunter but was a rejection of the fundamental premise that American is a land of laws and precedents cannot be overturned just because some partisan hacks have gained control

Alito is a partisan hack and is upset that people are calling him a partisan hack.




https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/supreme-courts-standing-falters-alito-pushes-flawed-defense-rcna49939?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_ma

When it comes to the U.S. Supreme Court’s institutional credibility, center-left justices have been unsubtle in their warnings. For example, in December 2021, during oral arguments in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization — the case that would ultimately serve as a vehicle to overturn Roe v. Wade — Justice Sonia Sotomayor asked a memorable rhetorical question.

“Will this institution survive the stench that this creates in the public perception that the Constitution and its reading are just political acts?” she asked. “I don’t see how it is possible.”

Six months later, when the Dobbs ruling was formally released, Sotomayor joined with Justices Stephen Breyer and Elana Kagan, writing in a dissent that the decision “undermines the Court’s legitimacy.”

A couple of weeks ago, Kagan advanced the conversation during remarks at Northwestern University School of Law. “When courts become extensions of the political process, when people see them as extensions of the political process, when people see them as trying just to impose personal preferences on a society irrespective of the law, that’s when there’s a problem — and that’s when there ought to be a problem,” Kagan said.

Justice Samuel Alito, the author of the Dobbs ruling, has heard the concerns — and he clearly has a problem with them. The Wall Street Journal reported:

In a comment Tuesday to The Wall Street Journal, Justice Alito said: “It goes without saying that everyone is free to express disagreement with our decisions and to criticize our reasoning as they see fit. But saying or implying that the court is becoming an illegitimate institution or questioning our integrity crosses an important line.”


The article did not quote the far-right jurist further — I suspect he didn’t elaborate — though the ambiguity leaves some unanswered questions. If Kagan and others have crossed “an important line,” what exactly does Alito see as the appropriate consequence? Is he of the opinion that people are free to disagree with the high court, but not question its legitimacy?

What’s more, Alito hasn’t exactly presented a defense of the institution. Indeed, in his comments to The Wall Street Journal, he didn’t even make an argument, per se. The justice’s pitch, in effect, is that people shouldn’t question the integrity of the court or its members because, well, just because.......

But as The Washington Post’s Ruth Marcus explained in a recent column, the justices’ own rulings have been every bit as important.

The inflamed public reaction stems also from the fact that the law changed because the court’s membership changed. The ruling in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization was the culmination of a political and politicized process to bolster the conservative majority by any means necessary. And this stacked court has — time after time, but most flagrantly in overruling Roe v. Wade — abandoned normal rules of restraint, twisted or ignored doctrine, and substituted raw power to achieve its desired result.... And this is how the institution undermines its own legitimacy. If the court behaves like just another political body, it loses the only power it has, of achieving public acceptance of its rulings.


When Republican-appointed justices ignore precedents they’d previously said they’d uphold, it undermines the court’s legitimacy. When Republican-appointed justices deliver overtly political speeches, it undermines the court’s legitimacy. When Republican-appointed justices take aim at fundamental American principles, such as the separation of church and state, in displays of raw power, it undermines the court’s legitimacy.


The block of partisan hacks on the SCOTUS have destroyed the legitimacy of the SCOTUS. The best way to respond to this is to GOTV and vote in so many Democrats in the House nd Senate that we can expand the court to neutralize these partisan hacks
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As Supreme Court's standing falters, Alito pushes flawed defense (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 OP
I can only hope to live long enough to see this rightwing court UpInArms Sep 2022 #1
Whining just like a Republican... when they get called out C_U_L8R Sep 2022 #2
Due to partisan hacks like Alito, the legitimacy of the SCOTUS is in doubt LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 #3
Wow, disapproval of the Supremely Religious Court has never been worse Farmer-Rick Sep 2022 #4
+1. The Fascist Society aims to destroy democracy and institute permanent minority rule dalton99a Sep 2022 #6
Piece of shit resents being called fecal matter dalton99a Sep 2022 #5
Damn, that is one ugly face. niyad Sep 2022 #7
With an ugly soul to match. geardaddy Sep 2022 #8
Exactly. niyad Sep 2022 #15
Back when Smirko was king monkey DU knew. Kid Berwyn Sep 2022 #9
Alito is blaming everybody else but himself. Figures. Something could smack him in the face and SWBTATTReg Sep 2022 #10
It's not just bad rulings ThoughtCriminal Sep 2022 #11
Alito created a second class of citizen, and consigned all women to it gratuitous Sep 2022 #12
Mockalito is unfit, not for mocking women, but for mocking the supreme law of the land. Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2022 #13
i believe the republicans on the supreme court are correct, running a racket, and traitors samsingh Sep 2022 #14
All 6 of the extremists papa3times Sep 2022 #16
Poor Sammy BlueIdaho Sep 2022 #17
I disagree with him that people shouldn't question his integrity. Iggo Sep 2022 #18
With 3 appointments by Mango Mussolini, it is illegitimate. roamer65 Sep 2022 #19
Alito suggests that Kagan "cross[ed] an important line LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2022 #20
The biggest problem with courts being political Mr.Bill Oct 2022 #21
Maybe having a SC Judge whose wife is a Qanon nut-job maxrandb Oct 2022 #22
SCOTUS is not stopping at Roe LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2022 #23
KnR Hekate Oct 2022 #24

Farmer-Rick

(12,721 posts)
4. Wow, disapproval of the Supremely Religious Court has never been worse
Fri Sep 30, 2022, 09:52 AM
Sep 2022

But anyone with half a memory knows the Supremes have been nothing but partisan hacks since they twisted themselves into pretzels in ruling against Gore in Bush V Gore. The Supremes ruled AGAINST counting votes. That was the end of democracy.

When you have so little regard for the votes of your citizens that you blatantly ignore a written constitution that is the end of democracy. The Supremes installed their political favorite without regard for We The People. That was the end right there. The oligarchs took total control then. What we see today is merely the extension of a compromised justice system.

There is no justice in the US if politicians and judges can and do ignore current law and what it actually says in the Constitution.

dalton99a

(94,735 posts)
6. +1. The Fascist Society aims to destroy democracy and institute permanent minority rule
Fri Sep 30, 2022, 10:00 AM
Sep 2022

by way of authoritarianism and judicial fiat





SWBTATTReg

(26,318 posts)
10. Alito is blaming everybody else but himself. Figures. Something could smack him in the face and
Fri Sep 30, 2022, 01:45 PM
Sep 2022

he wouldn't even feel it.

Are you an American, Mr. Alito? Do you have neighbors and friends? Or, are you so isolated, so into yourself, that you rule based upon what you determine all by yourself, and ignore everything else? I suspect that you are into yourself so much, that you can never do wrong.

What a joke. You're making it worse for yourself in trying to justify your rulings when rulings contrary to yours have been standing fine for literally decades and decades, and yet, you and your fellow justices (I laugh when I say this) decided that no, this law (Roe / Wade) even though it has been standing fine, is all of a sudden no longer valid.

How does that happen? Did one word in current law change? Did a word in the English language change its meaning all of a sudden?

ThoughtCriminal

(14,743 posts)
11. It's not just bad rulings
Fri Sep 30, 2022, 02:00 PM
Sep 2022

It's a confirmation process broken by GOP Senators.
It's poor ethics with conflicts of interest and failure to recuse.
It's justices with sketchy backgrounds that were not properly investigated.
It's arrogance and disregard for precedent and the rule of law to serve morally bankrupt ideologies.

The Supreme Court should hold itself to the highest standards of ethics and fairness. But instead it has exempted itself from even the most basic rules that apply to every other court.

Alito protests too much. He knows how corrupt they really are.


gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
12. Alito created a second class of citizen, and consigned all women to it
Fri Sep 30, 2022, 02:11 PM
Sep 2022

If they weren't so uppity, they'd know that they should accept the lot that Alito has assigned them, and just shut up. Don't those women and their allies know how bad it makes Sam feel when they question his divine pronouncement? And tell that pregnant 10-year-old to stop whining and carry that fetus to term. It puts Justice Barrett right off her afternoon tea.

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
13. Mockalito is unfit, not for mocking women, but for mocking the supreme law of the land.
Fri Sep 30, 2022, 03:29 PM
Sep 2022

The Subversive 6 has changed the Supreme Court from a court of law to an extremist ideological weapon which they wield to impose their views on the nation. It is no longer a court.

Roe, Roe, Roe your vote
against theocracy!
Republicans revoke your rights
and kill democracy!

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samsingh

(18,447 posts)
14. i believe the republicans on the supreme court are correct, running a racket, and traitors
Fri Sep 30, 2022, 04:19 PM
Sep 2022

where are they getting their money from? How much is paid by Russia and China? Saudi Arabia?

this is the worst court in the world and can be trusted less than those in third world countries.

papa3times

(150 posts)
16. All 6 of the extremists
Fri Sep 30, 2022, 06:02 PM
Sep 2022

on this court will not be treated well by history! And these m effers are just getting warmed up!

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
17. Poor Sammy
Fri Sep 30, 2022, 07:10 PM
Sep 2022

Guess he’s not too fond of the kangaroo court he helped to create. Just imagine what his tombstone will say…

Iggo

(49,975 posts)
18. I disagree with him that people shouldn't question his integrity.
Fri Sep 30, 2022, 11:18 PM
Sep 2022

Didn’t he say he was okay with that?

Or did he say that it’s okay to disagree with him as long as you don’t disagree with him?

LetMyPeopleVote

(180,686 posts)
20. Alito suggests that Kagan "cross[ed] an important line
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 04:16 PM
Oct 2022

Alito is a partisan hack who crossed the line when he lied about respecting precedent


Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
21. The biggest problem with courts being political
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 04:46 PM
Oct 2022

is that judges are generally not very wise politicians. Alito is a prime example.

maxrandb

(17,461 posts)
22. Maybe having a SC Judge whose wife is a Qanon nut-job
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 05:13 PM
Oct 2022

also harms the courts legitimacy.

Or, maybe it's the billions of dollars spent to pack the courts with fringe Fascist Society fucksticks harms the courts legitimacy.

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