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Sat Oct 1, 2022, 10:04 AM

Prof Aaron Astor on the next offensive moves in Ukraine

A nice thread on where the UAF goes next and the Ukraine way of war by an American professor who specializes in US Civil War history:




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Reply Prof Aaron Astor on the next offensive moves in Ukraine (Original post)
Tomconroy Oct 2022 OP
Beastly Boy Oct 2022 #1
MarineCombatEngineer Oct 2022 #4
Wounded Bear Oct 2022 #2
Disaffected Oct 2022 #3
PortTack Oct 2022 #5

Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

Sat Oct 1, 2022, 11:04 AM

1. Things are moving so fast in the east!

It appears the Russians attempted to break out of the encirclement. A terrible mistake, I think. There is only one road leading from Lyman in the direction of Kremina, and it is completely vulnerable to the Ukrainian fire. If that was the means for the Russian withdrawal, this road is now filled with Russian dead. The carnage would have been unimaginable, and I have no confidence that much of the Russian forces from Lyman (an estimated three or four battalions worth) will emerge intact from this retreat. And the survivors have only one place to go to: Kreminna. Kreminna itself is now under Ukrainian fire.

If, on the other hand, the Russians decided to avoid the road to Kreminna, and spread themselves out in the open field, they no longer have an army. It is not a retreat, it's a rout. Instead of a fighting force, they would have a bunch of marauding gangs with no command, fending for themselves. If they don't surrender, they will be picked one by one.

Either way, a lot of Russian lives wasted for nothing. A negotiated surrender would have been a much more honorable way to exit the war.

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Response to Beastly Boy (Reply #1)

Sat Oct 1, 2022, 11:33 AM

4. Perfectly stated.

I think it's a safe bet to say that Western military doctrine, which the Ukr. Armed Forces have adopted, is far superior to Russian military doctrine, especially the Command-and-Control aspect of war fighting.

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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

Sat Oct 1, 2022, 11:19 AM

2. K & R...nt

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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

Sat Oct 1, 2022, 11:29 AM

3. This war will be

an intense subject of discussion & debate for years to come.

Slava Ukraini!

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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

Sat Oct 1, 2022, 11:43 AM

5. Brutal for the orcs! President Zelensky gave them a chance to surrender, it's too bad they didn't

Take it.

Reading the twitter thread and one link within that thread..itís nauseating the numbers of dead and wounded russians. Will they ever learn?

Slava Ukraine!

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