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$2.88/gal (Original Post) Aviation Pro Oct 2022 OP
Milk? Kaleva Oct 2022 #1
Forgot the /s tag Aviation Pro Oct 2022 #2
Around $6.75 At Costco Here In So Cal nt SoCalDavidS Oct 2022 #3
Where? Aviation Pro Oct 2022 #4
Friend in from No. Cal AF burb, in yesterday empedocles Oct 2022 #11
If it's by Travis, ayep Sympthsical Oct 2022 #13
$3.29 NoVa Costco. empedocles Oct 2022 #12
Yeah gas stations in my area are well over $6.25 a gallon. Initech Oct 2022 #15
Aren't there multiple factors Bettie Oct 2022 #32
Pushing $7 in San Mateo county Retrograde Oct 2022 #37
Shit! $5.19 a gal or more AKwannabe Oct 2022 #5
Here in Tennessee Costco just went from 3.09 to 3.12 spanone Oct 2022 #6
A couple of days ago here in S. Florida it went up Aviation Pro Oct 2022 #7
Weird how gas prices appear to vary so much, like spread of 75%? What explains that. Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2022 #14
State taxes are the source of variation IbogaProject Oct 2022 #29
Don't consider it a regressive tax as the rich tend to buy bigger vehicles and it's all based on Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2022 #31
DeSantis suspended the gas tax for the month jimfields33 Oct 2022 #19
Gotta believe there's some price manipulation going on the west coast. brush Oct 2022 #8
What's surprising is that Hawaii gets their gas from California, haele Oct 2022 #30
Still almost $4... 2naSalit Oct 2022 #9
I'm getting tired of hearing about southern States enjoying gas prices that are $2+ less than KPN Oct 2022 #10
I learned something interesting about the West Coast yesterday Sympthsical Oct 2022 #25
NJ $2.93 NJCher Oct 2022 #16
Between NJ and PA, the difference in gasoline price is the state/county taxes FakeNoose Oct 2022 #17
We beat you on high property taxes! NJCher Oct 2022 #20
It's rising in NC. I got gas for 3.09 last week. BlackSkimmer Oct 2022 #18
It's been awhile since I was in New Jersey, Mr.Bill Oct 2022 #26
We're working on that! Retrograde Oct 2022 #38
Yeah, I've heard of that. Mr.Bill Oct 2022 #39
Rising BeerBarrelPolka Oct 2022 #21
Prices Started Going Up Here About Two Weeks Ago. ruet Oct 2022 #22
back up to over 5 in central wash state samnsara Oct 2022 #23
I paid $5.79 at my Bay Area Costco BuddhaGirl Oct 2022 #24
California is properly taxing ALL the cost of carbon emissions in the price. As all should. Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2022 #34
And I'm fine with that BuddhaGirl Oct 2022 #35
California has sales tax on gasoline. Mr.Bill Oct 2022 #40
New state tax 7-1-22. Indiana price $4.09 Captain Zero Oct 2022 #27
We were going down Tickle Oct 2022 #28
Something's up... DiamondShark Oct 2022 #33
Victoria, BC, we're paying the equivalent of 6.61 per U.S. gallon. OnlinePoker Oct 2022 #36

Aviation Pro

(15,578 posts)
4. Where?
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 01:05 PM
Oct 2022

I plugged in San Diego into Gas Buddy and Costco is at $5.89. Still way high, but not $6.50.

Sympthsical

(10,969 posts)
13. If it's by Travis, ayep
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 01:28 PM
Oct 2022

I live about eight miles from Travis AF base, it's well over $6.

State average bumped up overnight to $6.36.

Have to do my why I live in California self-mantra. It'sprettynosnowIt'sprettynosnowIt'sprettynosnow . . .

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
12. $3.29 NoVa Costco.
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 01:28 PM
Oct 2022

Suspect Costco pegs their uniform add on profit margin onto 'local' supplier price - which is controlled by . . . ?

Initech

(108,783 posts)
15. Yeah gas stations in my area are well over $6.25 a gallon.
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 01:29 PM
Oct 2022

The news said it was "refinery problems" that were causing gas to be high. I say that's a steaming load of grade A bullshit.

Bettie

(19,704 posts)
32. Aren't there multiple factors
Sun Oct 2, 2022, 02:38 PM
Oct 2022

that make CA's prices higher than most of the US?

It still sucks, but there are apparently reasons for this.

Retrograde

(11,419 posts)
37. Pushing $7 in San Mateo county
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 04:06 PM
Oct 2022

yeah, yeah, I know California has its own rules for gasoline composition and formulae, but I'm getting tired of people complaining about how expensive their $3/gal gas is back east.

AKwannabe

(6,890 posts)
5. Shit! $5.19 a gal or more
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 01:06 PM
Oct 2022

It’s not the same for all of us.
I am not dinging Joe but wish I had the same…

spanone

(141,617 posts)
6. Here in Tennessee Costco just went from 3.09 to 3.12
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 01:07 PM
Oct 2022

September 30, 2022 a barrel of crude is 79.49

Aviation Pro

(15,578 posts)
7. A couple of days ago here in S. Florida it went up
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 01:09 PM
Oct 2022

From $3.08 to $3.14, I’m thinking there’s a lag between the cost of a barrel of crude and the price we pay at the pump. Dropping $0.26 overnight was a very pleasant surprise.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
14. Weird how gas prices appear to vary so much, like spread of 75%? What explains that.
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 01:29 PM
Oct 2022

Local price gouging or monopoly or collusion?

IbogaProject

(5,913 posts)
29. State taxes are the source of variation
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 10:26 PM
Oct 2022

Many states tax gas on the theories it will encourage lower automotive pollution and to fund road maintenance in a way that reflects the usage, so in theory heavier cars use more fuel and pay more for the higher road wear and tare. And it is especially varied this year as some states have suspended their own gas taxes through either November or December. Again this is a regressive tax which is bad on everyone but the most rich. A better solution would be having the funding come from a graduated income tax or at least refunding the gas taxes in a graduated progressive way, so a rich person driving a huge SUV wouldn't get the refund.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
31. Don't consider it a regressive tax as the rich tend to buy bigger vehicles and it's all based on
Sun Oct 2, 2022, 02:34 PM
Oct 2022

consumption, so it’s a fairer tax.

Also all of it goes to general social welfare, roads and bridges.

 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
19. DeSantis suspended the gas tax for the month
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 02:18 PM
Oct 2022

It’s gone down all over the state. We’re under three dollars now At my gas station.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
8. Gotta believe there's some price manipulation going on the west coast.
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 01:17 PM
Oct 2022

Last edited Sat Oct 1, 2022, 02:18 PM - Edit history (1)

Around 3 dollars a gallon in much of the rest of the country but inching up to 7 bucks in California. Something's up.

Even with the Cali refinery requirements, that much differentiation in prices doesn't make sense. Before the huge supply shortage/inflation uptick, prices in California were never that much higher than the rest of the nation.

haele

(15,402 posts)
30. What's surprising is that Hawaii gets their gas from California,
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 11:22 PM
Oct 2022

And their prices are cheaper.

Here in San Diego, we have historically had higher gas prices than anywhere in SoCal because we only have around a dozen independent gas stations. All the other stations are company owned and franchised, so the gas stations themselves have no flexibility on pricing. They charge what the distributor tells them to charge.
So prices are manipulated by neighborhoods, and the franchisee makes their money on the mini-store attached to the pumps.

My thinking is that the distributors are passing on this Spring's high prices on to the consumer. While over the Spring, they charged higher prices in anticipation of the purchase price they were going to pay for the gas. They're double charging us. And of course, they decided to shutter half the West Coast refineries at one time for 'maintenance ', instead of shutting them down in a staggered rotation.

Haele

KPN

(17,377 posts)
10. I'm getting tired of hearing about southern States enjoying gas prices that are $2+ less than
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 01:19 PM
Oct 2022

what I'm paying here in coastal Oregon. Especially since most of those states vote red and also receive more federal funding per federal tax dollar paid than the rest of us. I wonder if the same is true for groceries? As the primary grocery shopper in my household, I can say that grocery prices have gone up probably 50% overall since the Ukraine war and Fed rates started going up.

Have to wonder how much of this is manipulated to keep the MAGAts in red states on the side of run-amok capitalism.

Sympthsical

(10,969 posts)
25. I learned something interesting about the West Coast yesterday
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 03:22 PM
Oct 2022

Apparently, we don't get our oil from pipelines because of the Rockies. Our fuel has to be shipped to us, and that's why our prices are typically higher.

Most of our country's refining capacity is near the Gulf and southern states. The Eastern states are riddled with pipelines. That's why Texas prices are always significantly lower than other places. Taxes also play a role. California also has its special formulation fun, which requires us to import more of our gasoline than other states.

Mix in local regulations, restrictions, and taxes, and you can find noticeable variations even on a county level. It all adds up.

So, we're basically hosed. Just how it is.

FakeNoose

(41,634 posts)
17. Between NJ and PA, the difference in gasoline price is the state/county taxes
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 01:42 PM
Oct 2022

Everything else is identical. And yet New Jersey prices are consistently lower across the board.

In Pennsylvania part of the gasoline tax goes to road maintenance costs, but in New Jersey the tolls cover most of that. Also the degree of governmental grifting is a bit higher in PA.

NJCher

(43,165 posts)
20. We beat you on high property taxes!
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 02:18 PM
Oct 2022

Just got my property tax statement: $16,837.

If you make less than a quarter of a million a year, you can get a rebate of
$1500, so that would make mine $15,337.

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
26. It's been awhile since I was in New Jersey,
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 03:30 PM
Oct 2022

but every time I've been there I bet I paid more in tolls than I did for gas. It's rare to pay tolls in California unless you cross a bridge.

Retrograde

(11,419 posts)
38. We're working on that!
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 04:09 PM
Oct 2022

CalTrans has been putting in toll lanes on some freeways in the Bay Area, with surge pricing: I've seen one near me go from $6 to the next exit at rush hour to $1 mid day.

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
39. Yeah, I've heard of that.
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 04:13 PM
Oct 2022

I lived in Silicon Valley from '61 to '91. But that kind of toll is a little different, because you can still use the road without paying it, but it will just take longer. Same incentive as carpooling or having a zero emissions vehicle to use the carpool lane. Just selling the time savings for cash instead.

ruet

(10,281 posts)
22. Prices Started Going Up Here About Two Weeks Ago.
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 02:31 PM
Oct 2022

$4.15/gal here. Bunch of fracking bulljive. I don't know what point you're trying to make but it isn't being made here.

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
40. California has sales tax on gasoline.
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 04:19 PM
Oct 2022

Depending on what locality you are in that can be close to 10%. And that's on top of the other taxes on the gas. So it's a tax on a tax partly. And it's per dollar, not per gallon. So when the price goes up, the state makes out. That's all well and good, as long as they use the money for what it's supposed to be used for. I took a 150 mile drive west to east across the state a few days ago, wine country to gold country. It's a trip I make frequently to visit relatives. I have never seen so much road construction going on, and it is much needed.

Captain Zero

(8,905 posts)
27. New state tax 7-1-22. Indiana price $4.09
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 03:58 PM
Oct 2022

Thank you Indiana Republican Legislators and Gov. Eric Holcomb (R)

They added a 70 cent state tax on 7-1-22.
Naturally Indiana Republican voters think
'Biden did it.'.

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