Looks like 'hundreds of bodies'--Lee County Florida:

[Kingofalldems]

Link to tweet

[Irish_Dem]

1. The GOP does not believe in saving lives.

Or using common sense precautions.

[intheflow]

25. The arrogance of playing God.

They know best about everything, and they will decide who lives and dies. They gave their souls over the the dark side long ago and now that the devil is taking is taking his due, they still act like they’re beyond questions - or the law.

[Irish_Dem]

27. American deaths mean nothing to them.

They only care about money and power.

They have no conscience.

[rubbersole]

73. Desantis didn't give a shit during covid.

Why should he care now? Florida is red. Might be purple really soon.

[yonder]

34. It seems planning is "left-wing stuff" for DeSantis":

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1016333576

[Irish_Dem]

37. Doing the hard work of governing is not on their agenda.

Political stunts are they only thing they know how to do.

[SergeStorms]

46. "Owning the Libs"....

is the coin of the republican's realm.

I hope they enjoyed their republican lucre while perishing in Ian's wrath.

[Cha]

76. I was just thinking De Sadist is

Not a Gov.. he's a Jerk Off!

[Irish_Dem]

103. I do think many of the GOP leaders enjoy the pain/death they inflict.

They get off on it.

So yes they are sadists.

[onecaliberal]

2. The real death panel.

[Rebl2]

23. YES

[LymphocyteLover]

90. GOP mother fucking death cult

[calimary]

92. No kidding!

[Kingofalldems]

3. Seems Malaise was 100% right.

[Mme. Defarge]

8. You can take that

to the bank.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

9. Sure weathered a lot of criticism, though.

This was a monster of a storm. Life-changing for so many.

[superpatriotman]

11. Came to say this!

Malaise was much maligned in her thread the other day. Sadly it appears her fears were realized.

Death Sentence will never tell the truth about the death toll. And reporters who just show boats and waterfront are failing to do their jobs.

[brooklynite]

15. That post was not based on known facts, nor was the "DeSantis would lie" assertion provable

It takes time for rescue crews to get into disaster zones. Where is the evidence that State officials are undercounting deaths? And what would be the advantage in doing so?

[malaise]

19. That post was based on hurricane data, strength, speed and rain and the ominous words of your on

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Effin PRESIDENT
That is all

[hlthe2b]

21. I traveled back and forth on Alligator Alley through Miccosukee-Everglades to Naples for a time and

once knew the area well. That was undoubtedly going to allow for very limited egress once winds picked up. I agreed with you then, malaise. Delaying evacuations in that area was irresponsible. And I agree with you now--DeSantis will do all he can to mask the true death tallies.

[sop]

24. DeSantis hid Covid-19 deaths in Florida.

(Palm Beach Post) - "Coronavirus Florida: Editorial: Gov. DeSantis still hiding crucial data on COVID-19 deaths from the public"

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/coronavirus/2020/05/13/coronavirus-florida-editorial-gov-desantis-still-hiding-crucial-data-on-covid-19-deaths-from-public/41705157/

[hlthe2b]

30. Yes, indeed. As I just pointed out to someone defending DeSantis for reasons totally unclear.

Past is quite often prologue... especially with Trumpist Republicans.

[brooklynite]

31. Again - not the same thing at all

He didn't hide DEATHS, he hid the CAUSE OF THE DEATHS.

In a natural disaster, dead bodies are dead bodies. And what would be the benefit of lowering the hurricane death toll?

[hlthe2b]

35. Lying as a defense for incompetence and irresponsible decisions.. whether COVID-19 response or

failure to initiate evacuations in a timely manner with this hurricane... Lying to deflect and self-defend is the RW and Trumpist natural response--very identical response/tactics. Taking responsibility for nothing... And yet, you defend this?

[sop]

39. Like I wrote, DeSantis hid Covid-19 deaths in Florida.

He played around with and hid the numbers to avoid political criticism.

[Phoenix61]

55. The same crap was rampant in the wake of Michael.

Reefer trucks full of bodies etc… it was all bullshit. Without cell phone service people can’t contact loved ones and fear the worst. There is literally no reason to lie about it. Throw in the massive number of responders from multiple states and agencies that would have to be complicit and its clear it just doesn’t happen.

[lonely bird]

71. What would be the benefit?

Lower death toll paints his decisions in a better light. Better light means he can try and brag about what a good job he did.

[paleotn]

77. Can't and won't take the blame for an monumental fuck up perhaps?

It's pathological with people like DeSantis. Even if they logically know the truth will come out....You can't hide bodies pulled from the debris....he would still attempt to slither away from blame.

[Butterflylady]

89. Again, still a lie. If Dedeath didn't put the deaths in the covid column

Then he put them the deaths in the column for disease, accident, or whatever column which would be untruthful. In otherwards, a lie.

[brooklynite]

94. So you're saying he'll put hurricane deaths into another category? Why would he?

[quakerboy]

101. Gee, because a republican would never lie

Its not like they ever do that, for any of a plethora of self serving reasons, or just because its what they do even when its stupid to do so, right?

[Roisin Ni Fiachra]

79. +1

[Cha]

82. And De Sadist ALWAYS LIES.. someone

isn't paying attention.

[malaise]

88. Always

😀

[Cha]

91. Like DT.

[malaise]

93. You just know the Slobfather will shortly attack BKDeathSentence over Ian right?

😀

[Cha]

102. Oh yeah.. Domestic Terrorist Attakcs

Domestic Terrorist.

[sop]

104. Ron (his flunkies) lied to a bunch of Venezuelans, kidnapped them and shipped them off to

Martha's Vineyard, then he lied to the press about his involvement in the pathetic stunt. DeSantis is a liar.

[Cha]

116. Yes & he needs Major BLOWBACK!

Link to tweet

[hlthe2b]

26. Past is prologue. DeSantis did everything possible to undercount COVID-19 deaths, after all.

Predictions are just that. Some do indeed become fact.

Why are you such a fan of Ron DeSantis that you attack malaise while defending DeSantis?

[hadEnuf]

54. Well if they are undercounting it's a good bet they are covering up evidence

to the contrary.

[Samrob]

105. The evidence is the bodies. The advantage of the undercount would be political (but stupid). nt

[LetMyPeopleVote]

111. I have been enjoying the fact that DeathSantis has been trending on twitter

DeathSantis did not evacuate Lee County in time

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[blm]

18. WTF! What numbskull would attack malaise here?

Especially when it comes to her innate sense about hurricanes. Geez.

[ProfessorGAC]

33. There Were Several

I thought it unfair because it was obvious Malaise was stating an opinion based upon prior events.
It wasn't an absolute declaration.
People might disagree, but some did so disagreeably.

[malaise]

47. What I don't understand is why people weren't paying attention to the President

He said substantial loss of life and most likely the deadliest hurricane in Florida’s history
No one would have been more informed than Biden. What’s more is that comment crushed any possibility of a coverup.

[blm]

65. That's how I took Biden's comment, too.

DeSantis has given NO REASON to trust his word.

[paleotn]

78. Absolutely!

[ZonkerHarris]

80. because Florida has been conditioned to ignore truth and logic

[DBoon]

118. and Biden is not one to exaggerate something as critical as hurricane fatalities

He is not only fully informed about a disaster of national impact, he is also very measured in how he publicly discusses it.

[malaise]

119. Precisely

[They_Live]

38. indeed.

I find it baffling.

[brooklynite]

113. Why do so many interpret criticism as "attacks" or "bashing"?

[blm]

114. I didn't see the thread, but, I have seen

past criticisms of malaise’ hurricane posts that were unwarranted and overthetop.

[malaise]

32. I

DeathSentence is fucked- Biden already told us the horror that was coming

[Skittles]

13. Malaise is all-knowing I tell you

yes INDEED

[malaise]

20. Not at all

I know a little something about politics and hurricanes and a lot about the politics of sports.

[trof]

61. Sorry malaise. If Skittles says "Yes INDEED" that's IT!.

[malaise]

66. Love Skittles

But it’s clearly not true or the Slobfather would already be in prison

[trof]

69. OK, we both love Skittles.

I think I can just accept that and move on with my life.

[malaise]

72. Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

[trof]

74. Yes INDEED!

[hlthe2b]

28. Uncalled for.

[tenderfoot]

14. Yes, horribly correct at that :-(

My heart goes out to those people.

[ornotna]

44. Surely the vocal doubters will apologize

When pigs fly.

[StarryNite]

4. Nothing about them is pro life... nothing.

[yardwork]

5. Tears.

[malaise]

51. You know what hurts big time

Imagining their fear facing that water, wind and everything collapsing around them. Horrible

[yardwork]

60. Yes.

[wnylib]

95. Horrible way to die.

[Chainfire]

6. There were rumors of hundreds or thousands of deaths after Andrew.

It turned out that there were not. I will wait on some official numbers and hope for the best.

[Phoenix61]

56. Thank you for your reasoned response.

Half the people who died due to Andrew died in traffic accidents after the storm.

[GoCubsGo]

7. Can't say I'm surprised.

Lots of people rode out that storm, willingly and unwillingly. I'm sure the storm surge took many, but the hurricane-force winds occurred well inland, too. I'm sure there were plenty of tornadoes associated with it, as well.

[bucolic_frolic]

10. Hundreds. Ouch.

[lpbk2713]

16. Probably mostly retirees.

Unable to make preparations on short notice.
And not having had experience with hurricanes before.

[snowybirdie]

17. Not seeing that here

Will wait for further information before believing this post.

[wnylib]

99. According to the Tampa Bay Times,

the Lee County sheriff said on ABC Good Morning America there were hundreds of deaths in the county. Then he said that the numbers are not confirmed, but he is certain that they are in the hundreds.

[GreenWave]

22. This appears to be a very red area too!

https://www.lee.vote/Election-Results

[Sedona]

29. The same rumors flew through SE FL after Andrew

That there were hundreds/thousands of dead bodies in the Everglades.

Let's hope this is equally untrue.

The media is stiring up unecssesay shit repeating this without confirmation.

[Sky Jewels]

36. So much for rugged individualism, huh, Ron?

[Quanto Magnus]

40. Thanks DeSantis! (eom)

[ancianita]

41. Oh, God. Horrible.

[Sugarcoated]

42. Double down, scumbag

Let's see how it works out for ya

[SergeStorms]

43. When they tell you to evacuate....

fucking evacuate. I'll never understand why anyone would endanger their lives and the lives of others by refusing to leave.

There is absolutely no good reason to stay behind with something like that hurricane bearing down on you. Any adverse situation can be overcome to get yourself out of harm's way.

[niyad]

48. One needs resources in order to evacuate. These include transportation, funds,

and a place to go, especially if one has pets, or various mobility and other health issues. And Lee county DELAYED the evacuation order, and some people still trust their local ekected officials.

[SergeStorms]

62. If there's a next time, try Sebring.

As far as I know they always open shelters that accommodate pets during South Florida hurricanes. My Mom rode a few out in there when she didn't trust her mobile home making it through the hurricane. She lived in Sebring as well.

[niyad]

100. Again, may I point out that one must have TRANSPORTATION, amoung

other resources.

I am grateful that I only have to worry about blizzards and fires. Little water, so limited flooding hazard. So far our earthquakes and tornadoes have been mild. But with catastrophic climate change, who knows.

[SergeStorms]

64. I'm not going to get in an argument about this.

If there's a will, there's a way. Always.

[niyad]

98. Tell that to the victims of Katrina, for example. Surely you remember.

The arrogant, careless superiority of your post is breathtaking.

[SergeStorms]

110. Give it a rest....

or are you one of those people who must win every argument, right or wrong. Have a wonderful day.

[mahina]

53. They could tell us to evacuate but there is no place to evacuate to.

[malaise]

107. They were not told to evacuate until it was too late

Ask DeathSentence

[SergeStorms]

108. That I'll agree with that 100%.

The Sheriff of Lee County has an extreme fascist attitude. "I wouldn't change one thing we did". Oh really? Sounds like a Trump acolyte through and through.

[malaise]

109. You nailed it

He should resign

[gldstwmn]

45. I saw this on Acosta earlier. It's heartbreaking.

And yet their reps voted against the relief package. Vote accordingly Floridians. Your life may depend on it.

[crazylikafox]

49. The "official" count still seems to be 74

When will this be updated? I thought I heard DeathSantis state earlier that they couldn’t verify the cause of death until the coroner performed autopsies.

[ramblin_dave]

50. This report of "hundreds" in Lee County appears to be about 3 days old

Latest total death toll for Florida is 74 per CNN...

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/02/us/hurricane-ian-south-carolina-florida-repairs-sunday/index.html

[Phoenix61]

57. Thank you! What happened is bad enough without the fear mongering. nt

[Old Crank]

63. The latest number

I've seen is 83.
Can't find any confirmation of hundreds

[Scottie Mom]

52. Death Satan...

He needs to pay for this. IMO, it's gross negligence to not have acted sooner.

[LenaBaby61]

84. SOME kind of way, DeathSantis .....

will get around to blaming Pres. Biden, Dems, liberals, woke-ism rinse and repeat.

It's how he rolls, and can get away with most of his bs, because the so-called liberal that doesn't exist media loves the racist, evil slime bag

[nakocal]

58. They wanted to let the wealthy get out first

before the roads would get clogged with traffic.

[Demsrule86]

59. DeathSantis...stikes Floridians dead again.

What a terrible despicable Piece of crap...for God's sake Florida and for those that died send the GOP packing.

[paleotn]

67. Wouldn't be the least surprised....

14 to 18 foot storm surge. The real killer. Heavily populated, low lying areas. Late evac. A ton of folks unfamiliar with what hurricanes can really do. Picture a biblical flood coupled with an F2 tornado that lasts for hours. A recipe for disaster as a sheriff down there mentioned on the day of landfall and was raked over the coals for it.

[Buckeyeblue]

97. I think you nailed it

The Florida population has been growing but also think of the net new "retire to Florida" crowd that, as you stated, has zero experience with hurricanes, meaning they don't understand storm surge. People in that group don't have the judgement to know when to go. It's interesting.

[AllyCat]

68. Omg the horror of this all. My heart is breaking

for these people and their families.

[Cha]

70. De Sadist is a Fucking IDIOT!

those poor people!

[oldsoftie]

75. I'm just going to wait on actual facts here. I doubt its going to be "100s" in one area.

TOTAL, entirely possible.

[NoMoreRepugs]

81. Let's see how Christ plays this. Could be the difference between winning and losing.

Which in turn will probably decide elections to come.

[sprinkleeninow]

83. I'd go woozy to see how Christ would play this. He waitin' in the background.

😄

"Woe unto them."

[NoMoreRepugs]

96. Maybe let DuhhhSantis have all the rope he needs.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

85. This is the map that DeathSantis cared about

Link to tweet

[ananda]

86. Look at this comment from Art Martin.

Desantis was too busy, deputizing his wife
as a Florida emergency management employee
and putting her in charge of their private
"disaster relief fund"

[LetMyPeopleVote]

87. DeathSantis stands by decision to hold off evacuating this area.

Link to tweet

[malaise]

106. I was busy telling a family friend and his wife

to get the hell out of his neighborhood a few miles from Fort Myers.
Fuck DeathSentence

[Baitball Blogger]

112. We need feet on the ground, and eyes on the devastation.

The Republicans will try to bury the casualty numbers.

[Deep State Witch]

115. But Yet

The good people of Lee and Charlotte Counties will still continue to vote red.

[genxlib]

117. This is just bad journalism

The real answer might be in the hundreds. We don't know yet.

When we find out, it will be from a better source than some guy who heard from his neighbor...

These things take time and will be done methodically.

[Captain Stern]

120. Is there an update on this?

Were there actually hundreds of (dead) bodies found in Lee County, or not?

[malaise]

121. M$NBC says 135 so far with ungoing recovery taking place

Both NBC and WP said deadliest hurricane in Florida in almost a century.
As I wrote, Biden would never have suggested this without the best sources.