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UpInArms

(54,984 posts)
Sun Oct 2, 2022, 06:29 PM Oct 2022

Credit Suisse Is in Deep Trouble

Cutting to the chase …

The No. 2 Swiss bank and one of the largest banks in the world is in deep trouble and is currently fighting for its survival. A negative outcome is likely to cause a shock similar to that caused by the bankruptcy of the U.S. bank Lehman Brothers in September 2008. This event triggered one of the most serious financial and economic crises since the Great Depression.

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"In the same business, it also found a failure to control limit excesses across both lines of defense as a result of an insufficient discharge of supervisory responsibilities in the Investment Bank and in Risk, as well as a lack of prioritization of risk mitigation and enhancement measures (such as dynamic margining)."

To avoid filing for bankruptcy, Credit Suisse has promised to present a strategic plan on Oct. 27. This should include the divestment of investment banking activities, the black sheep, speculate the markets.


More at …

https://www.thestreet.com/investing/credit-suisse-is-in-deep-trouble
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Credit Suisse Is in Deep Trouble (Original Post) UpInArms Oct 2022 OP
Serious enid602 Oct 2022 #1
The first domino? Farmer-Rick Oct 2022 #2
The magic hands of the free market are the only regulatory,... magicarpet Oct 2022 #5
Price gouging at the gas pumps are right on track,... magicarpet Oct 2022 #6
Bingo ✔️ live love laugh Oct 2022 #8
I love your sarcasm Farmer-Rick Oct 2022 #10
Just in time for the midterms gay texan Oct 2022 #3
"I am an old man and have known many troubles, most of which never happened," wrote Mark Twain . . . Journeyman Oct 2022 #4
Just positing a marker UpInArms Oct 2022 #7
What would the other shoe dropping look like to you? dixiegrrrrl Oct 2022 #14
Greedy mother f-ers RANDYWILDMAN Oct 2022 #9
In my lifetime the financial industry blows up about every 15-20 years. KentuckyWoman Oct 2022 #15
It isn't of a scale of Lehman IbogaProject Oct 2022 #11
+1, uponit7771 Oct 2022 #13
Just some FUD to affect the midterms? FUD, FUD, FUD! FSogol Oct 2022 #12

magicarpet

(18,515 posts)
5. The magic hands of the free market are the only regulatory,...
Sun Oct 2, 2022, 07:36 PM
Oct 2022

..... forces required for capitalism to endlessly prosper & flourish into eternity.

Ignore the ups and downs of recessions and depressions. They are only a figment of your imagination.

magicarpet

(18,515 posts)
6. Price gouging at the gas pumps are right on track,...
Sun Oct 2, 2022, 07:56 PM
Oct 2022

.... just before midterm elections. Consumer confidence soon headed for the shitter.

The media message will be - the Dems have not yet mastered the intricacies of keeping the economy on the up swing. When the Rethugs are in control - the economy is gang busters and thriving. A businessman like tRump kept the economy thriving during his term in the Oval Office. When it comes to economic matters, the Dems have much to learn to keep the economy robust and consumers content.

Farmer-Rick

(12,667 posts)
10. I love your sarcasm
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 09:28 AM
Oct 2022

Do you think GOPers notice most economic crashes, at least the worse ones, happen on their watch? Probably not, they are too busy conning everyone.

Journeyman

(15,449 posts)
4. "I am an old man and have known many troubles, most of which never happened," wrote Mark Twain . . .
Sun Oct 2, 2022, 07:30 PM
Oct 2022

Think I'll wait to hear the shoe actually drop before I get excited.

UpInArms

(54,984 posts)
7. Just positing a marker
Sun Oct 2, 2022, 09:02 PM
Oct 2022

Am a watcher … and have seen a lot of economic signs … not certain if this is one, but worth a warning

RANDYWILDMAN

(3,163 posts)
9. Greedy mother f-ers
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 01:05 AM
Oct 2022

and you would have thought this stopped with the 08, but these people don't learn and they don't care !!!


KentuckyWoman

(7,401 posts)
15. In my lifetime the financial industry blows up about every 15-20 years.
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 10:03 PM
Oct 2022

The explosion happens, we put some guardrails up on only what exploded. Someone comes up with a new or new again idea to stuff their pockets while everyone else is digging out not paying enough attention. They balloon it up again and then... kapow ... we start all over.

This particular one looks isolated but it does have the potential to ripple - depending on if the top of the economic food chain wants to use it for a purpose.

I know this whole point sounds like I slapped on a tin foil hat and joined a crazy train. I didn't come to this opinion lightly.

IbogaProject

(5,913 posts)
11. It isn't of a scale of Lehman
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 03:44 PM
Oct 2022

But it could still be like blood in the water to bearish sharks, so it could start a panic. And the other point is when Lehman was faltering, many banks and financial firms were is similar positions, in this case CS is standing alone without any peers in a similar situation.

FSogol

(47,623 posts)
12. Just some FUD to affect the midterms? FUD, FUD, FUD!
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 07:10 PM
Oct 2022
So what’s driving the fear mongering? Part of it is that the business seems to be doing badly as the investment bank has had persistent losses and poor performance that led to credit and stock downgrades. It makes sense, then, that its share prices have been on a steady decline. And as mentioned earlier, a notable part of that downward pressure is likely connected to online traders with overblown fears and concerns about this being another 2008 crisis.


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So, it's unlikely that Credit Suisse will collapse or is even on the brink, but it is likely that it’ll suffer more pain as investors and traders overreact, cause some harm, smell blood in the water, and continue the feeding frenzy.


https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3p57m/reddit-thinks-credit-suisse-is-about-to-collapse-and-trigger-a-financial-crisis-like-2008
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