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yaesu

(9,327 posts)
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 02:39 PM Oct 2022

Ukraine's Ambassador to Germany tells right-wing billionaire Elon Musk to "fuck off"

Last edited Mon Oct 3, 2022, 09:11 PM - Edit history (2)

Elon Musk suggests Ukraine should be "neutral" in Russia's war in Ukraine and in an approach to peace, and says Crimea is "formally part of Russia" (US/other allies recognize Crimea is Ukrainian).

Ukraine's Ambassador to Germany weighs in: "Fuck off is my very diplomatic reply"




Other European leaders also voiced their opposition to Musk’s plan.

“Dear @elonmusk, when someone tries to steal the wheels of your Tesla, it doesn’t make them legal owner of the car or of the wheels. Even though they claim both voted in favour of it. Just saying,” Lithuania’s president, Gitanas Nausėda, tweeted in response.

Just in case you want to vote (I voted NO)


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Ukraine's Ambassador to Germany tells right-wing billionaire Elon Musk to "fuck off" (Original Post) yaesu Oct 2022 OP
Excellent response! Lonestarblue Oct 2022 #1
Well the ambassador got that one right The Jungle 1 Oct 2022 #2
I love the Ukrainian people.... SergeStorms Oct 2022 #3
Same! Fist bump! nt LittleGirl Oct 2022 #30
Just Exactly How... GB_RN Oct 2022 #4
I know PatSeg Oct 2022 #17
Well, 20th century Nazis had Henry Ford and wnylib Oct 2022 #44
LindberghMusk is a perfect analogy. PlutosHeart Oct 2022 #49
And Trump's father and W's grandfather Farmer-Rick Oct 2022 #52
Appears so PatSeg Oct 2022 #63
Thought this was going along the lines of Monty Python, Life of Brian... 3Hotdogs Oct 2022 #38
Exactly my first thought. Reality has made it impossible for Ukraine to be neutral. mjvpi Oct 2022 #50
That makes zero sense, even for Musk. maxsolomon Oct 2022 #5
This is how it unfolded. herding cats Oct 2022 #6
OK, that helps, but I'm not on Twitter. maxsolomon Oct 2022 #9
I hosted the image so you can see it. herding cats Oct 2022 #12
Thanks. That makes it worse. F Musk. maxsolomon Oct 2022 #22
Elon himself started the Twitter poll irisblue Oct 2022 #16
Why is his opinion reported? SallyHemmings Oct 2022 #7
Next: Musk announces plan to buy Ukraine. CaptainTruth Oct 2022 #8
Shh MustLoveBeagles Oct 2022 #10
Good luck trying to sell a Tesla in Europe now. Americans and Australians should boycott them too. Botany Oct 2022 #11
Says Crimea has been part of russia sincev1783. niyad Oct 2022 #14
So? SCantiGOP Oct 2022 #18
Details! niyad Oct 2022 #21
Mercedes makes an EV just as feature rich (and just as expensive) as a Tesla DBoon Oct 2022 #48
I wonder if Musk has looked at a map nt Warpy Oct 2022 #13
That was part of his proposal. Igel Oct 2022 #61
Saw a video of Musk after 2008 financial crisis when he almost lost it all. Here is a guy who has Pepsidog Oct 2022 #15
He's good at buying companies blogslug Oct 2022 #26
I hate to defend Musk but Like Steve Jobs, Musk has the ability to motivate people accomplish Pepsidog Oct 2022 #39
A piece of shit human being is still a piece of shit human being. 48656c6c6f20 Oct 2022 #32
He sticks to engineering, he's fantastic Warpy Oct 2022 #59
Ukraine's Ambassador to Germany weighs in: "Fuck off is my very diplomatic reply". generalbetrayus Oct 2022 #19
Good Call.. Cha Oct 2022 #65
Fucking Boom! The Ukrainian💙💛 Cha Oct 2022 #20
Slava Ukraini! niyad Oct 2022 #23
Here's another excellent response to Musky geardaddy Oct 2022 #24
That guy Crazy Tomczyk bio is 👇 irisblue Oct 2022 #34
? geardaddy Oct 2022 #35
Another important Eastern European politician just told Musk to fuck off. irisblue Oct 2022 #36
Ah, got it! geardaddy Oct 2022 #43
Elon's brain has turned to mush LymphocyteLover Oct 2022 #25
Zelenskyy tweeted this earlier today and deleted it. I'll screen cap this one in case he deletes it kpete Oct 2022 #27
The more attention Elon gets, the more attention Elon wants. Grokenstein Oct 2022 #28
He can't run. He's a naturalized citizen geardaddy Oct 2022 #31
True! But they've tried to run around that rule before. Grokenstein Oct 2022 #40
Yes, I remember that geardaddy Oct 2022 #46
And if the remaining 666koch666 and his ilk get a Constitutional Convention not fooled Oct 2022 #68
I've been driving an electric car (Chevy Volt) for eight years and I love it. OMGWTF Oct 2022 #29
Friends have one, love it! Mopar151 Oct 2022 #73
It must be a decease that Elon Musk and J. D. Vance caught, they seem to be so different in Escurumbele Oct 2022 #33
Man, I *wish* they'd catch a (BITES TONGUE) Grokenstein Oct 2022 #41
Not to be negative about any condition, soldierant Oct 2022 #60
Okay then Hekate Oct 2022 #37
This is why we don't need mega-billionaires. Mr. Evil Oct 2022 #42
who appointed Elon Musk emperor of the world? DBoon Oct 2022 #45
He did. He is now getting high off his own narcissistic supply. irisblue Oct 2022 #47
Very weird because Ukraine army has been using Starlink for internet... winstars Oct 2022 #51
You beat me to the punch about Starlink aiding Ukraine. Something seems off about this kerfuffle. Efilroft Sul Oct 2022 #55
he talked some of his rich friends to put up the cost which was nice but nothing is free when yaesu Oct 2022 #62
It just boggles the mind why anyone would even think that Ukraine should give up anything after William769 Oct 2022 #53
If putler invaded Alaska, musk would say it belongs to him. Justice matters. Oct 2022 #57
Good response. Elon can go fuck himself. What a supreme asshole. "Neutral"?? WTF Evolve Dammit Oct 2022 #54
give up the goal of NATO membership maxsolomon Oct 2022 #64
and if they had not given up their nukes....none of this would have happened IMHO. Evolve Dammit Oct 2022 #67
Musk isn't very bright, is he? greatauntoftriplets Oct 2022 #56
+1, uponit7771 Oct 2022 #66
Musk is an ass. Joinfortmill Oct 2022 #58
Elon Must always attacks the good guys. He did the same thing with the Thailand rescuer. texasfiddler Oct 2022 #69
Given how people here reacted to Ukraine asking for rapid admission into NATO... Lancero Oct 2022 #70
Musk is an idiot savante. Every village needs one. Martin68 Oct 2022 #71
Dear Elon Musk, icymist Oct 2022 #72
There is a musky stench in all of this. Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2022 #74
I take it Musk would have told the people of Hawai'i to remain neutral on December 8, 1941 DFW Oct 2022 #75
I'm jealous wryter2000 Oct 2022 #76
LOL!! Me too! blue-wave Oct 2022 #77
BREAKING: Putin awards Elon Musk rank of colonel LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2022 #78
 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
2. Well the ambassador got that one right
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 03:11 PM
Oct 2022

We have an elected official who is tasked with presenting out foreign affairs positions.
Sit down and shut up Musk!

SergeStorms

(20,591 posts)
3. I love the Ukrainian people....
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 03:12 PM
Oct 2022

more with each passing day.

Their opinion of Musk mirrors mine. 😊

GB_RN

(3,559 posts)
4. Just Exactly How...
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 03:15 PM
Oct 2022

In the wide, wide world of fucks, is Ukraine supposed to be "'neutral' in Russia's war in Ukraine", given that Ukraine is an active participant and the victim in Putin's war of aggression?

Elon should STFU and stick to managing Tesla and his other companies. The more he opens his mouth, the further his stock price drops.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
17. I know
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 03:42 PM
Oct 2022

What the hell is wrong Elon Musk? He is getting weirder and more outrageous all the time and I didn't think that was possible.

You know, maybe he really doesn't like being the "richest man in the world" and on some level, he is trying to sabotage himself.

wnylib

(26,009 posts)
44. Well, 20th century Nazis had Henry Ford and
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 04:48 PM
Oct 2022

Charles Lindbergh.

21 century fascists have Elon Musk.

PlutosHeart

(1,445 posts)
49. LindberghMusk is a perfect analogy.
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 04:55 PM
Oct 2022

He has millions of followers on Twitter and it is strongly a cult that does his bidding. He trashed Netflix for being "woke" and told them to dump the service and they did sending Netflix into trouble.
So you can bet his telling this to his minions. Musk is a hard right conservative and full of himself wacko.

Farmer-Rick

(12,667 posts)
52. And Trump's father and W's grandfather
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 05:07 PM
Oct 2022

Too apparently. They both did their part to support Nazis during WWII.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
63. Appears so
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 07:12 PM
Oct 2022

Though I think Musk is a special kind of weird. I don't think he really believes anything. He just tends to be reactive depending on what kind of mood he's in. I think the guy needs medication.

3Hotdogs

(15,368 posts)
38. Thought this was going along the lines of Monty Python, Life of Brian...
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 04:33 PM
Oct 2022

"How shall we fuck off?"

mjvpi

(1,931 posts)
50. Exactly my first thought. Reality has made it impossible for Ukraine to be neutral.
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 04:55 PM
Oct 2022

Apparently you need not be empathetic or particularly bright to make a jillion dollars.

maxsolomon

(38,715 posts)
5. That makes zero sense, even for Musk.
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 03:15 PM
Oct 2022

How can Ukraine be neutral on Ukraine? I feel like something's missing in this Tweet...

Also, Crimea was FORMERLY (not "Formally" ) part of Rusher prior to 1954. It was Khrushchev's decision to give it to the Ukraine SSR. The reasons were self-serving: to add a million Russians to Ukraine.

https://www.wilsoncenter.org/publication/why-did-russia-give-away-crimea-sixty-years-ago

maxsolomon

(38,715 posts)
9. OK, that helps, but I'm not on Twitter.
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 03:28 PM
Oct 2022

So I don't know who posted that poll or what the question is.

I get what "Ukraine remains neutral" means in context, though: no NATO membership.

maxsolomon

(38,715 posts)
22. Thanks. That makes it worse. F Musk.
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 03:47 PM
Oct 2022

It wasn't a 'mistake', it was a deliberate ploy to increase the Russian minority in the UkrSSR.

irisblue

(37,508 posts)
16. Elon himself started the Twitter poll
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 03:40 PM
Oct 2022




Ukraine-Russia Peace:

- Redo elections of annexed regions under UN supervision. Russia leaves if that is will of the people.

- Crimea formally part of Russia, as it has been since 1783 (until Khrushchev’s mistake).

- Water supply to Crimea assured.

- Ukraine remains neutral.
Yes
36.8%
No
63.2%
1,285,865 votes
·
20 hours left

He posted this today, 12:15pm, eastern US

The push back was immediate and *against him*

He started whining that bots were against him within 30minutes.




Elon is not used to being told no & disagreed with on a massive scale.

It must be a massive shock to his ego.

Botany

(77,323 posts)
11. Good luck trying to sell a Tesla in Europe now. Americans and Australians should boycott them too.
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 03:32 PM
Oct 2022

Elon Musk, Ukraine should be "neutral" in Russia's war in Ukraine and says Crimea is now
"formally part of Russia."

Watch how fast that both Tesla and Musk issue a correction to Elon's awful statement.

DBoon

(24,983 posts)
48. Mercedes makes an EV just as feature rich (and just as expensive) as a Tesla
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 04:52 PM
Oct 2022

You want a luxury EV, get one from the company not run by an asshole

Warpy

(114,614 posts)
13. I wonder if Musk has looked at a map nt
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 03:38 PM
Oct 2022

Crimea has no supply of fresh water. As part of Ukraine, it was supplied from the mainland. Russia has to truck it in.

Igel

(37,535 posts)
61. That was part of his proposal.
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 06:23 PM
Oct 2022

Because that's what it is--a proposal that peace be achieved through revoting, a neutral Ukraine, water for Crimea, etc.

Pepsidog

(6,365 posts)
15. Saw a video of Musk after 2008 financial crisis when he almost lost it all. Here is a guy who has
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 03:39 PM
Oct 2022

a unique ability to get incredible things done, a guy who it's hard not to admire. I just saw a video of a human like robot he is working on. You want to root for these incredible people even if they flawed personalities like Steve Jobs. But then Trump and a bunch of wacko, RWNJs come along and brainwashes a guy like Musk to say he will never vote for a democrat again. Too much weed or too much something and Mush becomes just another MF'en Deplorable. And isn't he making money with his StarLink satellites helping the Ukrainian military effort. Definitely too much weed.

Pepsidog

(6,365 posts)
39. I hate to defend Musk but Like Steve Jobs, Musk has the ability to motivate people accomplish
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 04:36 PM
Oct 2022

remarkable things. Steve Jobs knew what people wanted but wasn't the computer genius behind his accomplishments, he pushed his people to be better.

 

48656c6c6f20

(7,638 posts)
32. A piece of shit human being is still a piece of shit human being.
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 04:07 PM
Oct 2022

And he doesn't invent shit, he just monopolizes on others achievements. He's a walking empty nut sack.

Warpy

(114,614 posts)
59. He sticks to engineering, he's fantastic
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 06:05 PM
Oct 2022

but like many phenomenally talented people, he's thick as a brick when he steps outside his area of expertise, and his is coming up with engineering concepts that will work and hiring the kind of people who can get it out of the planning stage into something that does indeed work.

I confess I've wondered for the last couple of years what Russian agent he's been boffing. Somebody is feeding him this bullshit, it's out of character for his last 20 years or so.

generalbetrayus

(1,858 posts)
19. Ukraine's Ambassador to Germany weighs in: "Fuck off is my very diplomatic reply".
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 03:45 PM
Oct 2022

I guess the "and die" part is not so diplomatic.

Cha

(319,067 posts)
20. Fucking Boom! The Ukrainian💙💛
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 03:46 PM
Oct 2022

Ambassador to Germany Speaks for me.
💙💛

Elon Musk is FULL OF Stupid Shite!

irisblue

(37,508 posts)
34. That guy Crazy Tomczyk bio is 👇
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 04:12 PM
Oct 2022

Member of the Polish Parliament. Vice-chairman of the PO RP. Chairman of the KO Club (20-21). Spokesman for the Government of the Republic of Poland and Secretary of State in the Chancellery of the Prime Minister (2015)

Grokenstein

(6,356 posts)
28. The more attention Elon gets, the more attention Elon wants.
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 03:57 PM
Oct 2022

Keep his sorry ass away from the White House.

geardaddy

(25,392 posts)
31. He can't run. He's a naturalized citizen
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 04:05 PM
Oct 2022

not a natural born citizen. And thank the gods for that.

Grokenstein

(6,356 posts)
40. True! But they've tried to run around that rule before.
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 04:42 PM
Oct 2022

Back when CA Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger was the Republicans' darling, Orrin Hatch and Vic Snyder (with the help of Barney Frank, FFS!) proposed separate amendments that would allow naturalized citizens to run after a significant numbers of years as a citizen. Neither went anywhere then of course, but we're currently living in the increasingly-stupidest timeline...

geardaddy

(25,392 posts)
46. Yes, I remember that
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 04:49 PM
Oct 2022

I would totally expect the MAGAts to try something like that to allow Musk or Gorka or some other idiot to run.

not fooled

(6,680 posts)
68. And if the remaining 666koch666 and his ilk get a Constitutional Convention
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 09:29 PM
Oct 2022

they will change that requirement in a heartbeat, for the next non-citizen puke figurehead that dumbasses would vote into the White House.

OMGWTF

(5,131 posts)
29. I've been driving an electric car (Chevy Volt) for eight years and I love it.
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 04:00 PM
Oct 2022

It was my plan that a Tesla Model S would be my next car, but fk that guy; there are lots of electric options coming on the market.

Mopar151

(10,348 posts)
73. Friends have one, love it!
Tue Oct 4, 2022, 04:07 AM
Oct 2022

They have a net metered solar house, figured in from go. The modest Volt serves their needs well, as part of a larger fleet. Everything from a 500 hp hillclimb car thru RV,SUV, Blackie the pickup,, a tractor, and electric bikes! So far, there are only 2 months of electric bills/yr.!!!

Escurumbele

(4,094 posts)
33. It must be a decease that Elon Musk and J. D. Vance caught, they seem to be so different in
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 04:09 PM
Oct 2022

previous life but have become these creepy people...I don't know, maybe they were always creepy and stupid.

Grokenstein

(6,356 posts)
41. Man, I *wish* they'd catch a (BITES TONGUE)
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 04:44 PM
Oct 2022

But yeah, they were always creepy and stupid. These days they're just allowed to be comfortable with it.

soldierant

(9,354 posts)
60. Not to be negative about any condition,
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 06:12 PM
Oct 2022

or disability, or whatever, pparticularly one which so many people handle so much better, but I believe Musk is on the spectrum (not my idea, I've read that he's said so.) But if he weren't also wwhite, privileged, and rish, he would likely manage it better.

Mr. Evil

(3,457 posts)
42. This is why we don't need mega-billionaires.
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 04:45 PM
Oct 2022

They always end up thinking 'I have all this money, I must be smarter than everybody else.' No, he's not necessarily smarter because of money. He's fortunate. He grew up in a wealthy family, was able to attend college at multiple universities. In other words, he had multiple opportunities to pursue and accomplish things. Most anyone could if they had similar opportunities.

These people are coddled and they want for nothing. And since they assume they're smarter than everyone else they start talking. Which always brings us to the old saying, "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt."

Oh, by the way, fuck him!

winstars

(4,279 posts)
51. Very weird because Ukraine army has been using Starlink for internet...
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 04:58 PM
Oct 2022

I have read in more than a few places that use of Starlink has helped literally kill Russians. I hope Elon doesn't now do something stupid, since he's clearly a real asshole...

Efilroft Sul

(4,413 posts)
55. You beat me to the punch about Starlink aiding Ukraine. Something seems off about this kerfuffle.
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 05:18 PM
Oct 2022

yaesu

(9,327 posts)
62. he talked some of his rich friends to put up the cost which was nice but nothing is free when
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 06:27 PM
Oct 2022

dealing with almost trillionaires, they don't get rich by being nice.

William769

(59,147 posts)
53. It just boggles the mind why anyone would even think that Ukraine should give up anything after
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 05:10 PM
Oct 2022

being attacked.

Do you think we (the U.S.) would give up anything?

Justice matters.

(9,786 posts)
57. If putler invaded Alaska, musk would say it belongs to him.
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 05:27 PM
Oct 2022

Just who should have to care what that other entitled asshole billionaire has to say??

He should shut up and try to make better cars that don't catch fire all of sudden!

texasfiddler

(2,199 posts)
69. Elon Must always attacks the good guys. He did the same thing with the Thailand rescuer.
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 10:34 PM
Oct 2022

If his ego isn't stroked enough by the good guys, he lashes out at the good guys.

Lancero

(3,276 posts)
70. Given how people here reacted to Ukraine asking for rapid admission into NATO...
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 10:52 PM
Oct 2022

He isn't wrong.

Most people in this topic just don't like the company their stance now finds them with.

DFW

(60,182 posts)
75. I take it Musk would have told the people of Hawai'i to remain neutral on December 8, 1941
Tue Oct 4, 2022, 11:59 AM
Oct 2022

And he would also have granted amnesty to all accused at Nürnberg in 1946.

If anything, I think the Ukrainian ambassador's response was "measured."

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