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WarGamer

(12,436 posts)
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 04:20 PM Oct 2022

NATO fears Russia preparing to test Poseidon nuclear torpedo for the first time

The Poseidon reportedly creates a 1600' Radioactive Tsunami...


https://news.yahoo.com/nato-fears-russia-preparing-test-113700443.html

According to the newspaper, the key commands of the NATO member countries have received reports over the past few days regarding the movement of the nuclear submarine Belgorod, which can carry Poseidon torpedoes.

“However, Western intelligence is convinced that (the submarine) did not go beyond the White Sea (in the north of Russia),” the newspaper writes. “In fact, it should next appear in the waters of the Arctic for a series of secret tests.”

The main difference between the Belgorod and all other nuclear submarines in the world is its potential ability to carry Poseidon nuclear torpedoes, capable of traveling hundreds of miles under water and causing "nuclear tsunamis" by exploding near a coast.

https://eurasiantimes.com/russia-to-test-nuclear-drone-from-its-gigantic-belgorod-submarine/

Russia’s enormous nuclear submarine, the ‘Belgorod’ that recently became operational, is about to undertake the first-ever test of Russia’s Poseidon nuclear torpedoes, according to a top-secret NATO report cited by an Italian media outlet.

“The alarm stems from a NATO intelligence report, sent to the most important allied commands in recent days. The report concerns the movements of the Belgorod nuclear submarine, which became operational in July. Now she’s back to dive in the Arctic seas, and it is feared that her mission is to test for the first time the super-torpedo Poseidon, often referred to as ‘the weapon of the Apocalypse,” reported la Repubblica.

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NATO fears Russia preparing to test Poseidon nuclear torpedo for the first time (Original Post) WarGamer Oct 2022 OP
This should not go off anywhere pandr32 Oct 2022 #1
Proxy wars and poking the proverbial stick at nuclear powers have consequences... WarGamer Oct 2022 #2
LOL, Neville Chamberlain is that you? FSogol Oct 2022 #4
Nonsense. WarGamer Oct 2022 #7
BS. No one on DU is promoting killing. There are people spreading FUD daily. FSogol Oct 2022 #11
One could spend 24hrs attacking the FUD... agreed. WarGamer Oct 2022 #13
What's FUD? N/t gay texan Oct 2022 #17
here WarGamer Oct 2022 #21
Ahhhhhh gay texan Oct 2022 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author gay texan Oct 2022 #19
At this stage it will be up to Putin to stop this. He started it by an unprovoked attack to take JohnSJ Oct 2022 #23
Submarines have been known to sink for undetermined reasons. Chainfire Oct 2022 #3
An Act of War to prevent a weapons test? WarGamer Oct 2022 #5
More like typical Russian incompetence. n/t FSogol Oct 2022 #6
Why do we let our astronauts hitch hike on their space rockets? former9thward Oct 2022 #18
The real question is, "Is threatening nuclear war an act of war?" Chainfire Oct 2022 #14
Of course not. WarGamer Oct 2022 #15
Of course not? Are you sure? Chainfire Oct 2022 #20
How many countries, over the last 75 years have made some sort of nuclear threat? WarGamer Oct 2022 #22
No. The only thing that would change that is if Russia actually employed tactical nuclear weapons JohnSJ Oct 2022 #24
Knowing what I have heard about the proficiency of the Russian military ... lpbk2713 Oct 2022 #8
FWIW... their history re: nuclear weapons programs is pretty good... WarGamer Oct 2022 #10
Creating a nuclear tsunami is a waste of a good nuke Shermann Oct 2022 #9
They are designed to be used against a naval fleet. former9thward Oct 2022 #16
The Arctic?..... Lovie777 Oct 2022 #12
Should we give up and let Russia have Ukraine? Kingofalldems Oct 2022 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Oct 2022 #27

pandr32

(11,579 posts)
1. This should not go off anywhere
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 04:26 PM
Oct 2022

We need to protect the Arctic, all our oceans and waterways. Lands, too.

WarGamer

(12,436 posts)
2. Proxy wars and poking the proverbial stick at nuclear powers have consequences...
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 04:28 PM
Oct 2022

Last edited Mon Oct 3, 2022, 05:05 PM - Edit history (1)

I wish people were as committed to peace as they are committed to killing.

FSogol

(45,476 posts)
4. LOL, Neville Chamberlain is that you?
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 04:33 PM
Oct 2022


There are zero people on this website encouraging killing. Russia leaving Ukraine is the only path to peace.

WarGamer

(12,436 posts)
7. Nonsense.
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 04:38 PM
Oct 2022

Every day I see people promoting killing Russians of all ilk... civilian and military.

And Russians talk about killing Ukraine and the West...

Enough already.

One way or another... PEACE NOW.

Response to WarGamer (Reply #13)

JohnSJ

(92,138 posts)
23. At this stage it will be up to Putin to stop this. He started it by an unprovoked attack to take
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 05:05 PM
Oct 2022

over Ukraine.

The only other alternative is for the Russian people or generals to have Putin removed

From the very start of this, Putin has lied every step of the way. From the beginning when the U.S. was negotiating for peace with Putin, he assured everyone the troops massing at the border of Ukraine were only there for "military exercises". That was a lie, that was proven when his troops crossed into Ukraine and caused the immediate sanction against Russia, and sending defensive weapons to Ukraine, for Ukraine to fight the Russians with.

When Ukraine and Russia were in talks it was clear from the start that those negotiations were going no where, and Russia wanted nothing less than to occupy, and make Ukraine part of Russia. That was not negotiable as far as Ukraine was concerned.

The difference this time is I think many Russians know Putin has lied them into this war.

I suspect trump gave Putin carte blanche on Ukraine, and Putin's misjudgement that Ukraine would not fight for their sovereignty, brought him into the current situation.

The only thing that would be a game changer would be if Russia decided to use tactical nuclear weapons. While Putin loudly proclaims he is "not bluffing", I think they are well aware if they employed nuclear weapons in UKraine, that would involve a direct involvement of the U.S. and NATO in Ukraine against the Russians, and I believe that is the last thing Russia wants.


former9thward

(31,981 posts)
18. Why do we let our astronauts hitch hike on their space rockets?
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 04:51 PM
Oct 2022

If they are so incompetent? Do we not care about their lives?

Chainfire

(17,530 posts)
20. Of course not? Are you sure?
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 04:52 PM
Oct 2022

Act of War Law and Legal Definition An act of war is an action by one country against another with an intention to provoke a war or an action that occurs during a declared war or armed conflict between military forces of any origin. The loss or damage caused due to such conflicts are excluded from insurance coverage except for life assurances.

WarGamer

(12,436 posts)
22. How many countries, over the last 75 years have made some sort of nuclear threat?
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 04:55 PM
Oct 2022

Either implicit or explicit?

JohnSJ

(92,138 posts)
24. No. The only thing that would change that is if Russia actually employed tactical nuclear weapons
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 05:08 PM
Oct 2022

in Ukraine, and I believe they have been told should that occur, there would be a direct engagement with NATO against Russia in Ukraine in that case, and the is the last thing Russia wants because of the unpredictable results





lpbk2713

(42,753 posts)
8. Knowing what I have heard about the proficiency of the Russian military ...
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 04:39 PM
Oct 2022


and the reliability of their equipment...

I wouldn't be surprised if it blew their submarine all to hell.

WarGamer

(12,436 posts)
10. FWIW... their history re: nuclear weapons programs is pretty good...
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 04:42 PM
Oct 2022

Certainly as good as the US.

Did you know the US has had 32 "Broken Arrow" incidents since 1945?

Shermann

(7,412 posts)
9. Creating a nuclear tsunami is a waste of a good nuke
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 04:40 PM
Oct 2022

You can do far more damage to a city with a tried-and-true airburst.

I guess "nuclear tsunami" gets more clicks? Surely some sharks would get picked up by it, making it a "nuclear shark tsunami".

ZOINKS!!!

former9thward

(31,981 posts)
16. They are designed to be used against a naval fleet.
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 04:48 PM
Oct 2022

A city with an important harbor could be a target but that is not the primary reason for the weapon.

Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #26)

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