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***Per DOJ filing: missing White House call logs found at MAL*** (Original Post) pnwmom Oct 2022 OP
Oh boy, here we go. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2022 #1
Ah. Correlating the callers/callees, with timelines. Hmmm. empedocles Oct 2022 #4
You're a poet and don't know it! 😉 ShazzieB Oct 2022 #42
I'm hearing Gil Scott Heron. Harker Oct 2022 #57
Good one! calimary Oct 2022 #65
But even though they are TFG phone records while pRes. THEY STILL BELONG TO THE PEOPLE, yes? TigressDem Oct 2022 #69
This is interesting! Ocelot II Oct 2022 #2
You think he made 39 pages of calls on 1/6? Effete Snob Oct 2022 #12
I'm not *assuming* anything. What I think is interesting, though, Ocelot II Oct 2022 #13
The notes are probably the interesting part Effete Snob Oct 2022 #16
Of course not 39 pages but I bet some are. triron Oct 2022 #22
He a narcissist. He probably ogles over them like family photos, proving how clever he was... Pobeka Oct 2022 #30
Exactly! It's so telling, that he didn't destroy evidence that would make him look bad NullTuples Oct 2022 #40
Yes, why? Could have just flushed them and destroyed possibly incriminating records? Evolve Dammit Oct 2022 #58
Who says only calls from the 6th are missing? druidity33 Oct 2022 #15
I would assume the "white house" call logs Cosmocat Oct 2022 #55
He didn't make that many calls InstantGratification Oct 2022 #56
I would assume the "white house" call logs Cosmocat Oct 2022 #62
I wonder whether the committee will add this to the next hearing or have a whole extra one renate Oct 2022 #3
Definitely. 2 days after the next one. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2022 #5
Has the next been rescheduled? dweller Oct 2022 #6
Nothing set in stone yet. chowder66 Oct 2022 #19
Tentative date dweller Oct 2022 #21
Is there a time of day for that hearing? wnylib Oct 2022 #53
Jan 6 committee doesn't have this moosewhisperer Oct 2022 #50
K&R. Wednesdays Oct 2022 #7
Not surprising. sheshe2 Oct 2022 #8
glad there are people willing to be lawyers Tetrachloride Oct 2022 #9
WHEN DOES THIS MF GET ARRESTED?!?! evolves Oct 2022 #10
Utterly nothing in that filing connects that material with 1/6 Effete Snob Oct 2022 #11
Neither does the OP. She's posting a tweet... druidity33 Oct 2022 #17
Thanks. And the person who tweeted is asking some valid questions, IMHO. n/t pnwmom Oct 2022 #18
Connect the dots? ⁹ triron Oct 2022 #25
Kick this one. Kingofalldems Oct 2022 #14
YUGE!!! COL Mustard Oct 2022 #20
Why would they be privileged? LiberalFighter Oct 2022 #23
Some might be attorney-client privileged, if they were between Trump and a private attorney. pnwmom Oct 2022 #29
Whaaa?!?! You gotta be shitting me! dchill Oct 2022 #24
Sorry to be junvenile but........Lock him up! Lock Him up! kimbutgar Oct 2022 #26
Actually, I consider that to be a MATURE response..... MyOwnPeace Oct 2022 #31
Do I remember correctly that, unlike real presidents, he refused to release call niyad Oct 2022 #27
That's what I remember, too, at least about visitor logs. nt pnwmom Oct 2022 #28
I might understand a copy... Grins Oct 2022 #32
Twitter reply: Rhiannon12866 Oct 2022 #33
If any of the notes on the logs refer to communications with DT's private lawyers, they could be pnwmom Oct 2022 #38
IANAL, but an attorney and client who conspire to commit a crime lose A/C privilege. usonian Oct 2022 #45
That's true -- but it wouldn't happen automatically. It would have to be litigated. pnwmom Oct 2022 #46
I plead double IANAL. The metadata of all calls made on duty (the who and when) may be public info. usonian Oct 2022 #47
Yes, the metadata. But I specifically mentioned "notes." n/t pnwmom Oct 2022 #48
Sorry, it's late. Thx. usonian Oct 2022 #49
im getting tired of sputter sputt sputt , delay and so fourth. when are we going AllaN01Bear Oct 2022 #34
When DOJ gets ready I guess. triron Oct 2022 #35
TY.. I trust the DOJ & Not Cha Oct 2022 #44
Thanks for the link to the pdf! Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2022 #36
If it walks like a duck... Ford_Prefect Oct 2022 #37
Sounds like the DOJ is being super cautious not to break any rules regarding atty/client privilege? kentuck Oct 2022 #39
Yeah, that's what I got out of it too -- but reading the filing, there is nothing specific about KPN Oct 2022 #61
Big K&R! Bayard Oct 2022 #41
Educated Guess that DT did Cha Oct 2022 #43
THIS. Clear proof of guilt of seditious conspiracy. ancianita Oct 2022 #51
K&R spanone Oct 2022 #52
How many calls did he make to Putin? speak easy Oct 2022 #54
The very fact that he said he didn't want to return these because they would end up... SKKY Oct 2022 #59
Um, could someone please ARREST THIS GODDAMNED FUCKING CRIMINAL??? Blue Owl Oct 2022 #60
He will be indicted, there's no question. But unfortunately it will take more time because they LymphocyteLover Oct 2022 #67
Obvious obstruction moniss Oct 2022 #63
Very interesting! burrowowl Oct 2022 #64
Shit just got even more real LymphocyteLover Oct 2022 #66
Obstruction of Justice...,. Smackdown2019 Oct 2022 #68

TigressDem

(5,126 posts)
69. But even though they are TFG phone records while pRes. THEY STILL BELONG TO THE PEOPLE, yes?
Tue Oct 4, 2022, 08:16 PM
Oct 2022

JUST because they PROVE he was talking to people during the insurrection, does not mean he had the right to hide them.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
12. You think he made 39 pages of calls on 1/6?
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 09:31 PM
Oct 2022

What is the basis for assuming the log has anything to do with 1/6?

Ocelot II

(131,689 posts)
13. I'm not *assuming* anything. What I think is interesting, though,
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 09:33 PM
Oct 2022

is that he took the logs in the first place. Why?

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
16. The notes are probably the interesting part
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 09:39 PM
Oct 2022

He made so many “perfect calls”.

He was impeached over a phone call to Zelensky. His calls around that time are likely illuminating.

Pobeka

(5,017 posts)
30. He a narcissist. He probably ogles over them like family photos, proving how clever he was...
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 10:34 PM
Oct 2022

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
40. Exactly! It's so telling, that he didn't destroy evidence that would make him look bad
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 11:22 PM
Oct 2022

For a narcissist, destroying them would be admitting he'd maybe done something wrong.

druidity33

(6,947 posts)
15. Who says only calls from the 6th are missing?
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 09:35 PM
Oct 2022

If Trump didn't want people to know who he called and when he called them... I'm pretty sure he'd just steal the records if he could. So, maybe he did.



Cosmocat

(15,507 posts)
55. I would assume the "white house" call logs
Tue Oct 4, 2022, 09:18 AM
Oct 2022

Mean more than just him.

And, I imagine a lot of calls were made that day.

56. He didn't make that many calls
Tue Oct 4, 2022, 09:34 AM
Oct 2022

But those logs are for every call that went through the White House switchboard, outgoing and incoming and not just TFG's calls but everyone else too.

Cosmocat

(15,507 posts)
62. I would assume the "white house" call logs
Tue Oct 4, 2022, 12:49 PM
Oct 2022

Mean more than just him.

And, I imagine a lot of calls were made that day.

renate

(13,776 posts)
3. I wonder whether the committee will add this to the next hearing or have a whole extra one
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 09:06 PM
Oct 2022

I hope we get a whole extra one!

Tetrachloride

(9,763 posts)
9. glad there are people willing to be lawyers
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 09:23 PM
Oct 2022

there are too many commas, appendices and parentheses for my taste.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
11. Utterly nothing in that filing connects that material with 1/6
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 09:29 PM
Oct 2022

I doubt he made 39 pages of calls on 1/6 and then annotated the log.

Nothing in that document says Jack Shit about 1/6.

pnwmom

(110,336 posts)
29. Some might be attorney-client privileged, if they were between Trump and a private attorney.
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 10:27 PM
Oct 2022

MyOwnPeace

(17,656 posts)
31. Actually, I consider that to be a MATURE response.....
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 10:39 PM
Oct 2022

one that WAY TOO MANY are not strong enough to state.......

niyad

(135,100 posts)
27. Do I remember correctly that, unlike real presidents, he refused to release call
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 10:22 PM
Oct 2022

logs and visitor logs almost the entire time he was squatting in, and soiling, the PEOPLE'S HOUSE??

Grins

(9,575 posts)
32. I might understand a copy...
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 10:39 PM
Oct 2022

…of the call records, but the actual records?

Who requested the originals?

How were they deleted from the file?

Who prepared and delivered them into the bloody, tiny hands of the orange ogre?

pnwmom

(110,336 posts)
38. If any of the notes on the logs refer to communications with DT's private lawyers, they could be
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 11:05 PM
Oct 2022

attorney-client privileged.

usonian

(26,982 posts)
45. IANAL, but an attorney and client who conspire to commit a crime lose A/C privilege.
Tue Oct 4, 2022, 01:16 AM
Oct 2022

Even if the attorney goes unpaid.

pnwmom

(110,336 posts)
46. That's true -- but it wouldn't happen automatically. It would have to be litigated.
Tue Oct 4, 2022, 01:25 AM
Oct 2022

And for all we know there are some attorney/client calls on the log that have nothing to do with Jan 6 and are protected.

usonian

(26,982 posts)
47. I plead double IANAL. The metadata of all calls made on duty (the who and when) may be public info.
Tue Oct 4, 2022, 01:37 AM
Oct 2022

regardless of content.

AllaN01Bear

(30,039 posts)
34. im getting tired of sputter sputt sputt , delay and so fourth. when are we going
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 10:45 PM
Oct 2022

to NAIL this dufuss.

kentuck

(115,931 posts)
39. Sounds like the DOJ is being super cautious not to break any rules regarding atty/client privilege?
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 11:17 PM
Oct 2022

They have seven questionable boxes locked up by the Privilege Review Team that the Case Team has not seen.

Including those calls and messages with "notes" on the side.

The way I read it, they will stay locked up unless the Court rules otherwise?

KPN

(17,579 posts)
61. Yeah, that's what I got out of it too -- but reading the filing, there is nothing specific about
Tue Oct 4, 2022, 12:43 PM
Oct 2022

call logs that I can see. I'm pretty confused as to what this amounts to, if anything.

SKKY

(12,816 posts)
59. The very fact that he said he didn't want to return these because they would end up...
Tue Oct 4, 2022, 09:58 AM
Oct 2022

...with the committee, who would then turn them over to DoJ, is pretty clear obstruction of justice.

Blue Owl

(59,918 posts)
60. Um, could someone please ARREST THIS GODDAMNED FUCKING CRIMINAL???
Tue Oct 4, 2022, 11:49 AM
Oct 2022

Jesus fucking Christ....

LymphocyteLover

(10,343 posts)
67. He will be indicted, there's no question. But unfortunately it will take more time because they
Tue Oct 4, 2022, 05:14 PM
Oct 2022

have to get everything perfect.

moniss

(9,193 posts)
63. Obvious obstruction
Tue Oct 4, 2022, 01:59 PM
Oct 2022

since he and his attorneys knew that these logs were being requested. The attorneys for the attorneys are going to need attorneys before we're much further.

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