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Traitors lurking in congress (Original Post) Beachnutt Oct 2022 OP
I think I lost 20 IO points . . . Richard D Oct 2022 #1
LOL!!! nt Wounded Bear Oct 2022 #25
They are not lurking. They are loudly and proudly in plain, arrogant view. niyad Oct 2022 #2
And fund-raising on it Evolve Dammit Oct 2022 #7
Damn - took the words right outta my mouth! BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 #12
There is no justice Maine Abu El Banat Oct 2022 #3
Elise Stefanik R-NY 21 mgardener Oct 2022 #4
Don't forget Rick Scott and l'il Marco. Lindsay and Rand don't hide their love of Mother Russia. rubbersole Oct 2022 #5
and the group that went to Russia on July 4... Evolve Dammit Oct 2022 #8
If only that would make voters turn against Rep Granger!! yellowdogintexas Oct 2022 #9
I feel for you, yellowdog. My representative is Roger Williams. Lonestarblue Oct 2022 #13
Ugh. I've had the unestimable Roger Williams for the last decade. summer_in_TX Oct 2022 #28
It was barely noticed in MSM and nobody cares about much. That's why we had a coup that lots of Evolve Dammit Oct 2022 #24
Marshall and laturner BOSSHOG Oct 2022 #27
all levels of society and gvt. AllaN01Bear Oct 2022 #6
Don't forget Jodey Arrington. He's as bigga one. Ask him! czarjak Oct 2022 #10
Prove it brooklynite Oct 2022 #11
Also as Rachel pointed out it is very hard to get a conviction in a sedition case... mitch96 Oct 2022 #16
Dems being fair and technically correct have helped these nazis... rubbersole Oct 2022 #17
Right. We should sit back quietly and just watch. FoxNewsSucks Oct 2022 #18
Our legal system isn't, but our political system is. Midnight Writer Oct 2022 #22
True, but our political system requires a 2/3 vote of the House or Senate... brooklynite Oct 2022 #23
Absolutely. summer_in_TX Oct 2022 #29
For guidance, see ppg 29 - 39 (32 - 42 of the pdf) of this judgment ... Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2022 #33
Meantime the local Denver news station mountain grammy Oct 2022 #14
Boobert's campaign probably asked them not to have a debate FoxNewsSucks Oct 2022 #20
Yup, their comeuppance is coming. Joinfortmill Oct 2022 #15
Lurking? Their treason is out in the open and they're proud uvvit Warpy Oct 2022 #19
A few more names. Some might not be around anymore. ancianita Oct 2022 #21
Bunch o' Traitors on the Supreme Court, too. Kid Berwyn Oct 2022 #26
Sure as HELL are.. who's that Cha Oct 2022 #30
What exactly makes them traitors? Jack the Greater Oct 2022 #31
United States Constitution. Article III, Section 3 clearly defines treason: Jack the Greater Oct 2022 #32

BumRushDaShow

(172,187 posts)
12. Damn - took the words right outta my mouth!
Tue Oct 4, 2022, 10:15 AM
Oct 2022


Saw the OP title and was like "They're not lurking. They are loudly proclaiming their intent to overthrow the government (while they continue to serve in it )!

rubbersole

(11,275 posts)
5. Don't forget Rick Scott and l'il Marco. Lindsay and Rand don't hide their love of Mother Russia.
Tue Oct 4, 2022, 09:29 AM
Oct 2022

Just for the sake of being thorough - all the repubs that didn't vote to certify the last election.

yellowdogintexas

(23,757 posts)
9. If only that would make voters turn against Rep Granger!!
Tue Oct 4, 2022, 10:06 AM
Oct 2022

She is my Congressperson and she has two voting methods:

No and Didn't vote.

I would be willing to bet a steak dinner that the majority of TX-12 voters have no clue that she was on that flight with all those Senators. She was the only woman and only House member.

She has an opponent, who does not have good exposure now but he is laying ground for a run when (if)she retires or dies. It may take 2 or 3 cycles, since she will be carried out of the House on a stretcher before she will retire.

Her latest stunt was voting No on a bill she helped craft. When asked why, she had no answer which is par for the course.

Lonestarblue

(13,560 posts)
13. I feel for you, yellowdog. My representative is Roger Williams.
Tue Oct 4, 2022, 10:18 AM
Oct 2022

I think he spends more time running his car dealerships than in the House. And Democrats have no chance of defeating him in our gerrymandered district. Even if he finally retires, or dies, someone just as bad will replace him because Texas Republicans now recruit only the most extremist right-wing candidates they can find.

summer_in_TX

(4,268 posts)
28. Ugh. I've had the unestimable Roger Williams for the last decade.
Tue Oct 4, 2022, 10:22 PM
Oct 2022

But now, oh joy, I've been redistricted into Chip Roy's congressional district starting next year. At least Williams wasn't mean, even if his policies were.

Evolve Dammit

(21,815 posts)
24. It was barely noticed in MSM and nobody cares about much. That's why we had a coup that lots of
Tue Oct 4, 2022, 04:49 PM
Oct 2022

folks are OK with. Not lookin' good for the home team..

BOSSHOG

(44,738 posts)
27. Marshall and laturner
Tue Oct 4, 2022, 10:22 PM
Oct 2022

From Kansas. I proudly stand and nominate those two treasonous bastards to the list of treasonous bastards.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
11. Prove it
Tue Oct 4, 2022, 10:15 AM
Oct 2022

Not being facetious. None of these people have been convicted of insurrection. Our legal system is not built on "we know they did it" assertions.

mitch96

(15,873 posts)
16. Also as Rachel pointed out it is very hard to get a conviction in a sedition case...
Tue Oct 4, 2022, 10:42 AM
Oct 2022

I would love it to come to fruition but for now it is just "wish casting"
as the weather peeps say.
m

rubbersole

(11,275 posts)
17. Dems being fair and technically correct have helped these nazis...
Tue Oct 4, 2022, 10:43 AM
Oct 2022

turn elections into culture war referendums. I'm very guilty of ignoring the effectiveness of avoiding policy issues in lieu of manufactured fear issues. CRT? WTF? Never taught in secondary schools.

FoxNewsSucks

(11,913 posts)
18. Right. We should sit back quietly and just watch.
Tue Oct 4, 2022, 10:58 AM
Oct 2022

I'm sure there's a laptop or email somewhere that we should be worried about instead of these apparent traitors.

Midnight Writer

(25,731 posts)
22. Our legal system isn't, but our political system is.
Tue Oct 4, 2022, 01:44 PM
Oct 2022

Folks don't vote on a legal level of proof.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
23. True, but our political system requires a 2/3 vote of the House or Senate...
Tue Oct 4, 2022, 01:45 PM
Oct 2022

A meme isn't going to get you the votes you need.

summer_in_TX

(4,268 posts)
29. Absolutely.
Tue Oct 4, 2022, 10:25 PM
Oct 2022

Hope a number of them lose their seats, and that the investigation into J6 sniffs out any conspiracy in which they may have participated. (BoBo!)

Those who participated should be charged and hauled off to jail.

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
33. For guidance, see ppg 29 - 39 (32 - 42 of the pdf) of this judgment ...
Wed Oct 5, 2022, 12:36 AM
Oct 2022
https://www.citizensforethics.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/D101CV202200473-griffin.pdf

(Sorry, can't copy and paste the relevant parts).

The judge lays out what is an insurrection and what it means to be engaged in an insurrection.

mountain grammy

(29,201 posts)
14. Meantime the local Denver news station
Tue Oct 4, 2022, 10:32 AM
Oct 2022

didn't invite Boebert and Frisch to debate because Boebert is a "sure win" in her district...

FoxNewsSucks

(11,913 posts)
20. Boobert's campaign probably asked them not to have a debate
Tue Oct 4, 2022, 10:59 AM
Oct 2022

because even though she'll win via the rigged district, she would look like the total fool that she is.

Warpy

(114,661 posts)
19. Lurking? Their treason is out in the open and they're proud uvvit
Tue Oct 4, 2022, 10:59 AM
Oct 2022

but until and unless they're charged, tried and convicted of insurrection, they'll be able to stay where they are.

Well, unless the voters catch a clue, but don't bet the rent on that.

ancianita

(43,344 posts)
21. A few more names. Some might not be around anymore.
Tue Oct 4, 2022, 12:04 PM
Oct 2022
visited Moscow on U.S. 4th of July 2018:

Richard Shelby, Alabama
Ron Johnson, Wisconsin
Steve Daines Montana

John Hoeven, North Dakota
John Kennedy, Louisiana
Jerry Moran, Kansas

John Thune, South Dakota
Kay Granger, Texas




Taking dark money from Leonard Blavatnik:

Mitch McConnell $2.5 M
Marco Rubio $1.5 M
Scott Walker $1.1 M

Lindsey Graham $800,000
John Kasich $250,000

Jack the Greater

(616 posts)
31. What exactly makes them traitors?
Wed Oct 5, 2022, 12:23 AM
Oct 2022

They may be despicable human beings, but that does not rise to treason.

Jack the Greater

(616 posts)
32. United States Constitution. Article III, Section 3 clearly defines treason:
Wed Oct 5, 2022, 12:33 AM
Oct 2022

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

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