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JustAnotherGen

(32,322 posts)
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 10:34 AM Oct 2022

Malinowski (NJ), Casten (IL), Wild (PA) Propose Pull Troops from the Gulf

I'm not using their headline - because it's not a simple matter of 'revenge'. It's smart retaliation. They've made their bed with Putin, are trying to influence our election (gas prices), and we are still the largest producer of oil in America.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/democrats-propose-pulling-troops-from-saudi-arabia-as-revenge-for-opec-move/ar-AA12FcCJ

Democratic Reps. Tom Malinowski of New Jersey, Sean Casten of Illinois and Susan Wild of Pennsylvania have introduced legislation asking for the withdrawal of all U.S. troops from Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, after OPEC announced its decision to curb oil production on Wednesday.

Tweet: "This is a hostile act by Saudi Arabia and the UAE, designed to hurt the United States and our allies and to help Russia, despite President Biden's overtures," Malinowski wrote on Twitter on Thursday."If Saudi Arabia and the UAE want to help Putin keep oil prices high, they should look to him for their defense," he added in a later tweet.


In a joint statement, Malinowski, Casten and Wild said: "OPEC's decision appears designed to increase Russia's oil export revenues, enabling Putin to continue his war crimes in Ukraine, and undercutting Western sanctions."

Malinowski, Casten and Wild said that Saudi Arabia's and the UAE's decision to cut oil production "despite President Biden's overtures to both countries in recent months, is a hostile act against the United States and a clear signal that they have chosen to side with Russia in its war against Ukraine." In response, they called for the U.S. to "resume acting like the superpower in our relationship with our client states in the Gulf."



Here's a link to the Bill:

https://malinowski.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/malinowski.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/Malinowski%20OPEC%20Partnership%20Bill.pdf

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the ‘‘Strained Partnership Act’’



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My Congressman (Malinowski) is facing a sharp battle in the NJ th with a guy who pals around with domestic terrorists (Kean Jr).
Huge risk to do this. However, his life has been Human Rights. He and his mom fled Poland when he was a little guy. He KNOWS Russia.

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Malinowski (NJ), Casten (IL), Wild (PA) Propose Pull Troops from the Gulf (Original Post) JustAnotherGen Oct 2022 OP
Why are we providing troops for a country trying to destroy us? Irish_Dem Oct 2022 #1
Exactly JustAnotherGen Oct 2022 #2
What are we (still) doing over there anyway? Mad_Machine76 Oct 2022 #5
Providing the Saudis with US taxpayer funded military protection. Irish_Dem Oct 2022 #8
Bingo JustAnotherGen Oct 2022 #14
Doesn't seem like a good arrangement (for us) Mad_Machine76 Oct 2022 #15
Make no mistake, it is a very good arrangement for someone in the US. Irish_Dem Oct 2022 #16
Well......point taken Mad_Machine76 Oct 2022 #17
Creates many well paid jobs in military-industrial complex /nt at140 Oct 2022 #19
Yes. Irish_Dem Oct 2022 #21
I agree...let the f'ing Saudis protect their own butts. Demsrule86 Oct 2022 #9
Why we have troops in any foreign country while at140 Oct 2022 #18
At the least the countries could chip in for the costs of protecting them. Irish_Dem Oct 2022 #20
Jacking the price of oil jacks the price of everything shipped or trucked, as well. Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2022 #3
As well as made in America JustAnotherGen Oct 2022 #4
Not a bad idea but what the ramifications be? Samrob Oct 2022 #6
I think number one? JustAnotherGen Oct 2022 #11
This should be shouted far and wide--that Democrats are working to prevent the Middle East Lonestarblue Oct 2022 #7
I agree - especially on the IRA JustAnotherGen Oct 2022 #13
Perfect timing. Saudis can shop for muscle in Russia or China or Nork... n/t TygrBright Oct 2022 #10
The 21st century stats would be interesting. Marcuse Oct 2022 #12
Thank you for Shining the Light Cha Oct 2022 #22
This is very un Tom-Like JustAnotherGen Oct 2022 #23
I Hope he Doesn't lose! Cha Oct 2022 #24
Frankly, US troops shouldn't be spread around the world anyways. WarGamer Oct 2022 #25
I would say JustAnotherGen Oct 2022 #26
I see no purpose for W Europe and Japan... WarGamer Oct 2022 #27
We have Navy in American Samoa and Guam JustAnotherGen Oct 2022 #28
Nah. WarGamer Oct 2022 #29
I'm in favor of switching to electric vehicles. EndlessWire Oct 2022 #30
K&R betsuni Oct 2022 #31

JustAnotherGen

(32,322 posts)
2. Exactly
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 10:50 AM
Oct 2022

And we are the largest producer of oil globally.

Now is the time to call these three Representatives and have them add a cap on domestic gas prices. We have our own, in America (Gas/Oil Industry) trying to destroy us from within.

Mad_Machine76

(24,530 posts)
5. What are we (still) doing over there anyway?
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 01:15 PM
Oct 2022

The Iraq Wars 1 & 2 and the "War on Terra" seem to be defunct at the moment, so.........?

Irish_Dem

(50,389 posts)
8. Providing the Saudis with US taxpayer funded military protection.
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 01:32 PM
Oct 2022

Bribing them to keep gas prices low?

But they still screw us over anyway.

Irish_Dem

(50,389 posts)
16. Make no mistake, it is a very good arrangement for someone in the US.
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 01:51 PM
Oct 2022

Or we wouldn't be doing it.

Who benefits?

at140

(6,110 posts)
18. Why we have troops in any foreign country while
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 02:11 PM
Oct 2022

our national debt keeps rocketing up (already ove r$31,000,000,000,000).
In essence we are borrowing money to keep military installations abroad!
Does this make any kind of sense?
Servicing interest costs on national debt are already near one Billion dollars every day.

Hermit-The-Prog

(34,140 posts)
3. Jacking the price of oil jacks the price of everything shipped or trucked, as well.
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 12:48 PM
Oct 2022

OPEC needs a strong message delivered -- meddling in our elections is not good business.

JustAnotherGen

(32,322 posts)
4. As well as made in America
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 12:51 PM
Oct 2022

I'm going to paint with a broad and potentially ignorant brush here but . . .


It's like the Middle East Leaders think they are the center of the Universe.

They aren't.

Samrob

(4,298 posts)
6. Not a bad idea but what the ramifications be?
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 01:24 PM
Oct 2022

At one time, the Saudi royals were more afraid of their own citizens than outside forces. The Prince knew what to do to get that changed...let women drive, give them a little more freedom from religiosity, and kill off some older royals, and take charge of the propaganda. Sucker, the con-man-President with money and the promise to allow him to build super, super hotels and stuff and wholla!! You can grab the US by the ... well you know. And here we are. And guess what, Israel won't lift a finger to help us either. Trump took care of that too. They don't even have to pretend anymore.

JustAnotherGen

(32,322 posts)
11. I think number one?
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 01:43 PM
Oct 2022

US Oil Companies will raise their prices dramatically. They don't HAVE to - but they will because they are all about their profits.

I'd rather be fucked by an American company - then two countries that are in bed with Putin.


Khashoggi's death was enough.
UAE kissing Jared's ass while remaining a part of the embargo on Israeli products was enough.

It's just enough. I'm 49 - I will be 50 in February. I've had it with the middle east. Only country I care about is Israel. The rest can go to hell. Inflation isn't going away any time soon - I want the pain all at once.

Lonestarblue

(10,517 posts)
7. This should be shouted far and wide--that Democrats are working to prevent the Middle East
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 01:26 PM
Oct 2022

from holding the US hostage over oil production. MBS and the UAE got in bed with Trump/Kushner, and they are betting that those two will return to power.

Highlighting how the Inflation Reduction Act enables more US energy independence through alternative energy should also be appealing to voters.

JustAnotherGen

(32,322 posts)
13. I agree - especially on the IRA
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 01:45 PM
Oct 2022

I think it's (inflation) is going to have to get worse, before it gets better.

I also have no doubt that the oil drillers in the USA will jack up their prices and give us pain at the pump. The American Consumer who CAN afford it will simply have to punish them buy purchasing electric vehicles. I can hang onto my beetle for another year or two until the electric model comes out.

Cha

(299,300 posts)
22. Thank you for Shining the Light
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 02:32 PM
Oct 2022

Last edited Thu Oct 6, 2022, 03:06 PM - Edit history (1)

on the Reality, Gen. And, Thanks to those Reps who are Proposing this pull out from the Gulf.

I like your Congressman.. I remember when he first Won in NJ... 2018, wasn't it?

The Very Best of Luck to Rep Malinowski !

JustAnotherGen

(32,322 posts)
23. This is very un Tom-Like
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 02:36 PM
Oct 2022

He's a genuinely sweet and soft-spoken man. But - on this - I think he's willing to lose on a Human Rights issue such as Russia's invasion of Ukraine. He took heat from the left at a few of his town halls for Biden playing nice with Saudi Arabia.

WarGamer

(12,861 posts)
25. Frankly, US troops shouldn't be spread around the world anyways.
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 03:09 PM
Oct 2022

South Korea and some Central European countries like Poland and the Baltics?? Maybe.

WarGamer

(12,861 posts)
27. I see no purpose for W Europe and Japan...
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 03:25 PM
Oct 2022

And in the So Pacific, we have US "protectorates and territories" like Guam.

JustAnotherGen

(32,322 posts)
28. We have Navy in American Samoa and Guam
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 03:31 PM
Oct 2022

And Italy and Germany - are positioned perfectly for issues on the NATO border. We remain members of NATO - and can never again be in a position of having to storm beaches in Europe.

Rammstein and the 7 bases in Italy are critical to making certain that never happens again. My husband engaged in some of his 300 Training at American bases with US Special Forces/Allies. Let's see what that itch face does in Italy in the next few months.

WarGamer

(12,861 posts)
29. Nah.
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 04:11 PM
Oct 2022

There will never be Russian tanks rolling across Western Europe... that's silly.

Now that the Neocons are done, let's get rid of their New Era Imperialism too.

EndlessWire

(6,704 posts)
30. I'm in favor of switching to electric vehicles.
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 04:48 PM
Oct 2022

Our Pres personally asked them, and got turned down. I am not learned enough to know 100% how this should go, just bits and pieces. Go ahead, pull our troops out. I have felt for a long time that they are not our friends. We should economize, anyway. There are plenty of other, friendly nations where the troops can go. Like, the Baltics.

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