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Demovictory9

(37,113 posts)
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 10:05 PM Oct 2022

Young women are trending liberal. Young men are not

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3675477-young-women-are-trending-liberal-young-men-are-not/


Young women are trending liberal. Young men are not

Young women are more likely to identify as liberal now than at any time in the past two decades, a trend that puts them squarely at odds with young men.

Forty-four percent of young women counted themselves liberal in 2021, compared to 25 percent of young men, according to Gallup Poll data analyzed by the Survey Center on American Life. The gender gap is the largest recorded in 24 years of polling. The finding culminates years of rising liberalism among women ages 18 to 29, without any increase among their male peers.


Several societal forces have conspired to push young women to the left in recent years, including the #MeToo movement, former President Trump, rising LGBTQ identification and, most recently, abortion policy. Slower-cooking trends in marital status and educational attainment have also nudged the needle.

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The rift between young men and women may widen further. Earlier this year, the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, a precedent that had protected abortion as a constitutional right for nearly half a century. The ruling has energized young women. New survey data, released this week, shows that 61 percent of young women consider abortion a critical issue, compared with 36 percent of all Americans.

“I would always choose a candidate that’s pro-abortion,” said Rose Merjos, 21, a government major at Wesleyan University in Connecticut who is an avowed liberal. “Almost everyone either knows someone who has had an abortion or has had one themselves. This is something everyone can relate to.”

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Young women are trending liberal. Young men are not (Original Post) Demovictory9 Oct 2022 OP
Gallup is the worst poll. Demsrule86 Oct 2022 #1
Gallup is Reich wing yankee87 Oct 2022 #3
Not surprising AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2022 #2
+1 ismnotwasm Oct 2022 #7
Young women need to quit breeding with young morons. Liberty Belle Oct 2022 #4
Everything I hear from self-identified incels... GopherGal Oct 2022 #9
The birth rate in the US has been trending downward for 15 years. Mariana Oct 2022 #10
I was getting ready to say something along those lines Victor_c3 Oct 2022 #27
This isn't surprising vercetti2021 Oct 2022 #5
and, it's probably way too simplistic stopdiggin Oct 2022 #12
As a 42-year-old divorced man, I've listened to some of these single male bloggers Victor_c3 Oct 2022 #28
Too simplistic even for right wing Gallup. brush Oct 2022 #6
My youngest daughter went on a date with this guy a few months ago. Ended the date early and onecaliberal Oct 2022 #8
and .. the dude wasn't even smart enough to stopdiggin Oct 2022 #11
The RWs I know just assume I agree with them. Boomerproud Oct 2022 #17
In my red as a baboon's ass area, a lot of them do that. Nt raccoon Oct 2022 #18
I read something this week about a MAGA dating app AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2022 #13
A republican I_UndergroundPanther Oct 2022 #14
I see you've met my in-laws. RedSpartan Oct 2022 #30
+1 Emile Oct 2022 #19
Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson are Heroes among many Males . People point to Kardashians getting a JI7 Oct 2022 #15
+1 betsuni Oct 2022 #22
At my age I don't get into a lot of "discussions" with other halfulglas Oct 2022 #16
Young men Dorian Gray Oct 2022 #20
+1 betsuni Oct 2022 #21
young men Conjuay Oct 2022 #23
Young white men are pessimistic and cynical. betsuni Oct 2022 #24
Odd given young people prefer Socialism over Capitalism AntivaxHunters Oct 2022 #25
No they don't. betsuni Oct 2022 #26
The headline conveys a false implication Tom Rinaldo Oct 2022 #29
thanks. for nailing down the real essense stopdiggin Oct 2022 #31

yankee87

(2,824 posts)
3. Gallup is Reich wing
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 10:23 PM
Oct 2022

Gallup is very right wing polling system. Maybe happening, but need more evidence

Liberty Belle

(9,707 posts)
4. Young women need to quit breeding with young morons.
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 10:26 PM
Oct 2022

If young women would refuse to sleep with men who oppose reproductive rights, those who wish to oppress us would become extinct as dodos - Darwinian selection at its finest.

GopherGal

(2,905 posts)
9. Everything I hear from self-identified incels...
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 11:15 PM
Oct 2022

makes me think "the women who declined to sleep with you were right!"

Kudos to the women who turned down these a-holes.


Mariana

(15,624 posts)
10. The birth rate in the US has been trending downward for 15 years.
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 11:16 PM
Oct 2022

I'd like to think that indicates that more women are choosing not to have children with morons, but of course there's no way to know that.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
27. I was getting ready to say something along those lines
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 08:07 AM
Oct 2022

And, for the most part, they seem to be avoiding immature and moronic man-boys. Look at some of the statistics regarding relations and sex for people under 30. It’s something like 26% of American adults haven’t had sex within the last year!!

https://cbsaustin.com/amp/news/nation-world/survey-says-over-1-in-4-american-adults-havent-had-sex-in-over-a-year-united0states-general-social-survey-sexual

 

vercetti2021

(10,481 posts)
5. This isn't surprising
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 10:38 PM
Oct 2022

Online grooming from sources like 4chan, 8chan. Also online gaming (which is where I was targeted during the late 2000s) no surprise if one young man has a bad experience with one woman. They turn into hateful lil shits that resent everything.

But I went from young liberal man into mature liberal woman. So I'm happy I never fell for the horseshit.

But with the Andrew Tates, Walsh's, Shapiro's of the world. They'll continue to groom these boys into hateful lil nazis

stopdiggin

(15,462 posts)
12. and, it's probably way too simplistic
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 11:32 PM
Oct 2022

but I have also thought about the appalling views and behaviors of a lot of our (male) sports figures. (and notice that I singled out male sports figures)

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
28. As a 42-year-old divorced man, I've listened to some of these single male bloggers
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 08:27 AM
Oct 2022

Out of curiosity mostly.

These guys are all bitter and hateful towards women because most women don’t want to date these sorts of guys - and they can’t seem to figure out why. If you’re a guy in your mid 40’s whose overweight, works a low income job, doesn’t have a college degree, and are generally an asshole, women probably aren’t going to be attracted to you.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
6. Too simplistic even for right wing Gallup.
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 10:44 PM
Oct 2022

Last edited Fri Oct 7, 2022, 02:32 AM - Edit history (1)

There has to be ethnic/racial break downs for this to be taken seriously. We already know a large majority of white men lean right and have for years. We also know white women in the low 50 percentile voted for trump in 2020. How much has that changed if at all, or the liberal trend they say they see is made up of Black women, progressive white women, Asian American women, LBGTQ+ women, Latina and other POC women?

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
8. My youngest daughter went on a date with this guy a few months ago. Ended the date early and
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 10:47 PM
Oct 2022

blocked his number from her phone. Yup, he was republican. She told me she was horrified by the first 15 minutes. It's so sad because although we live in California, it is a red area. She won't even consider dating a republican. It is a deal breaker.

stopdiggin

(15,462 posts)
11. and .. the dude wasn't even smart enough to
Thu Oct 6, 2022, 11:27 PM
Oct 2022

gauge his audience (read the room). A lot of these - individuals - have become very 'confident' in their own - attributes and abilities. So, yeah - it was probably an excruciating couple hours. Sorry she had to go through that.

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,744 posts)
13. I read something this week about a MAGA dating app
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 12:16 AM
Oct 2022

The users were pissed because there weren’t any women on it.

I_UndergroundPanther

(13,369 posts)
14. A republican
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 12:38 AM
Oct 2022

Is an automatic deal breaker. I dont want those scumbags near me,they're ghastly and gross and I hate narcissists.

JI7

(93,615 posts)
15. Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson are Heroes among many Males . People point to Kardashians getting a
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 12:47 AM
Oct 2022

lot of female attention but women look to them for things like fashion or other superficial crap. But on things that matter it's people lke Ruth Bader Ginsberg who is popular and girls dress up as her and as Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris.

halfulglas

(1,654 posts)
16. At my age I don't get into a lot of "discussions" with other
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 02:04 AM
Oct 2022

women these days over the right to abortion and bodily autonomy but now that the reality is setting in about how much this really reaches out to so many facets of our lives, people are less reluctant to talk about it now, but for a while even using the term abortion seemed to turn off a lot of younger women than I. Of course so many of them don't remember pre-Roe and it never occurred to many of them that an established right could be taken away, although I remember very well. Having lived through the 50s and 60s as a young woman we always knew we had to be careful, but now it's even harsher now with these new laws. In those days if you had a miscarriage, it was a miscarriage. When I had one with my first pregnancy as far as I know nobody questioned if it was spontaneous.

Now there are drugs that can't be prescribed to females of child-bearing age. Doctors and emergency rooms are afraid to practice evidence based medicine. Of course, we have gotten used to insurance companies coming between us and our doctors, but now we have the state and every busybody who thinks they have a right to be concerned over every fertilized egg having more rights than the woman missing a period. I have 2 smart granddaughters, 1 in college, 1 in high school. The future is limited for them. There will be jobs denied to them because of their sex, going back 50 years because it might damage the fetus.

Now I'm fairly sure a number of women participating in polls are not going to admit to this being the number one reason to vote Dem, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is even the number 2 reason or number 3 reason for voting Dem. Having taken surveys you kind of hold back and not want to tell everything that's on your mind. I know I've had a lot of disappointments in the American public in the past 5 years, but I'm hoping that the younger people are awake enough to be aware of what they may be losing if we don't vote like it's a presidential year.

Dorian Gray

(13,850 posts)
20. Young men
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 06:08 AM
Oct 2022

are getting "radicalized" by podcasts and web follows. Things like Barstool Sports, Joe Rogan, Matt Walsh. Varying degrees of toxicity, but all embracing that masculine ethos that is horribly dismissive of women and people different than them.


Conjuay

(3,067 posts)
23. young men
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 06:44 AM
Oct 2022

have heard “liberal” as a bad thing. I think they are more tuned to the negativity that has been spewed for the last thirty years.

betsuni

(29,074 posts)
24. Young white men are pessimistic and cynical.
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 07:01 AM
Oct 2022

Mythical socialist utopia fantasy or white nationalism.

betsuni

(29,074 posts)
26. No they don't.
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 07:30 AM
Oct 2022

The United States is a capitalist country. A few college kids who just read Marx have fantasies about socialism. They believe assholes who say Teh Democratic Establishment are corrupt and immoral. So what?

Tom Rinaldo

(23,187 posts)
29. The headline conveys a false implication
Fri Oct 7, 2022, 08:30 AM
Oct 2022

Namely, that young men are shifting to the right. It doesn't say that, but it is easy to misread it to believe that young men are trending conservative as opposed to young women who are trending liberal. Buried a few paragraphs into the article it states "The share of men who identify as liberal has held fairly steady for almost 25 years, according to annual Gallup surveys."

Of course the younger women are correct and I wish younger men were keeping pace with them, but at least it seems they are no more conservative now than they have been for decades, and young people as a whole are trending liberal.

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