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kentuck

(111,111 posts)
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 05:25 AM Oct 2022

Trump Indicts the DOJ...

Last edited Sat Oct 8, 2022, 09:22 AM - Edit history (1)

He claims they stole his documents from his home and office. He says they are now using the court system to maintain control of the documents.

Seeking relief from the tyrannical DOJ, Trump has gone to the Supreme Court to halt this unprecedented attack upon his character and reputation.

He will not be happy until the DOJ is discredited and behind bars.

The penalty should be harsh for stealing our nation's secrets.

The people of this country simply will not put up with it.

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MiHale

(9,837 posts)
1. Million Person March for Justice...
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 06:33 AM
Oct 2022

Mass of people 1 million strong marching to a Citizens Arrest of TFG.

RVN VET71

(2,707 posts)
5. Depends on what Ginni tells him to do.
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 07:24 AM
Oct 2022

Clarence is dominated by her, needs to be dominated by her. The Fatman knows this and, for that reason, Fatso will not include her in his insults directed at women’s bodies.

lostnfound

(16,209 posts)
3. Nice thought but the people of this country are kept very busy, confused, misinformed, distracted
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 07:15 AM
Oct 2022

And there’s a great effort to make them dumb.

lostnfound

(16,209 posts)
14. I'm seeing that even MSMBC is keeping us in a tunnel
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 09:40 AM
Oct 2022

Even though smart people presenting factual stories, the repetition serves to collect and funnel energy in a common direction, making it more controllable. The fresh raw feelings that a normal person in the 70s might have emoted …about a traitor, an insurrection, the absence of accountability for possibly trading on classified secrets, etc… gets replaced with a tape recording “we are all wondering if there will ever be consequences”.

Does that concentrate and focus power? Or does it diffuse and release it? I’m not sure.

gab13by13

(21,617 posts)
4. Patience,
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 07:21 AM
Oct 2022

have to have ducks in a row for the government to get its own property back. Oh, and, Trump has more government property hidden somewhere but DOJ can't search his property without probable cause.

Relax, it's football and Kornacki time. There will be plenty of time to find our most sensitive top secret documents after the election.

Just because the FBI found 48 top secret folders with no documents at Mar-el-Loco doesn't mean that Trump has them.

I wonder if Saudi Arabia raising oil prices just in the US has anything to do with Trump stealing classified documents? We may never know. Why did Jared get 2 billion dollars from Prince BoneSaw? Are we still protecting SA oil pipelines?

Irish_Dem

(48,832 posts)
12. Of course there is a connection between stolen docs and Saudi.
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 09:12 AM
Oct 2022

And what Saudi is doing now.

Just like there is a link between Trump and what Putin is doing now.

Puzzle pieces are falling into place and providing clarity.

onenote

(42,934 posts)
17. Yep. Building the strongest possible case takes time. Look at the Oath Keepers trial.
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 09:52 AM
Oct 2022

The DOJ's presentation in that trial was terrific, woven together with video presentations, audio clips, etc. You don't rush into these things, you want to build the strongest case possible before you start. That's why you see superseding indictments, sometimes months after an initial indictment, before arrests are made and a case goes to trial.

I've cited these examples before, but its worth citing them again:

Sandy Berger walked out of NARA with classified documents. That he had done so was discovered by NARA in October 2003 and referred to DOJ shortly thereafter. He was never arrested. He was investigated (an investigation that wasn't publicly acknowledged until 2004) and then plead guilty in 2005 to a misdemeanor and sentenced to two years of probation -- he never spent a day in jail, either before or after his guilty plea.

Another example: federal authorities began investigating Benjamin Pierce Bishop with electronic surveillance at least as early as September 2012 and conducted a search of his home in November 2012. That investigation and search established that he was passing classified information to a Chinese citizen and that he also was in possession of classified materials in his home. A criminal complaint was not sworn out against Bishop until March 2013. Initially, he was released to a halfway house pending trial but he violated the terms of his pre-trial release and returned to custody. But he wasn't sentenced, as part of a plea agreement, until March 2014 -- 18 months after the investigation began.

Farmer-Rick

(10,268 posts)
9. This is because
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 08:09 AM
Oct 2022

The DOJ is negotiating with a proven traitor instead of indicting him.

Gives the traitor a chance to play with his hand selected Supremely Religious Court before any court trial begins.

onenote

(42,934 posts)
15. Trump hasn't tried - yet - to get the Supreme Court to stop the DOJ
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 09:45 AM
Oct 2022

All that his current Supreme Court filing would accomplish, if it was granted, would be to allow the special master to review the classified documents while the Justice Department continued to use those documents in its investigation.

Mr. Ected

(9,676 posts)
16. If arresting Trump will lead to a "civil war" and that's what's holding back the DOJ
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 09:48 AM
Oct 2022

I'd say, let's just accelerate the inevitable. If it doesn't happen now it'll only get worse.

Time to rip that bandaid off and deal with the pain. The payoff will be way worth it.

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