For those all wobbly about the blowback of indicting Trump---an old English saying:

[Atticus]

"Tender-handed stroke a nettle,
And it stings you, for your pains:
Grasp it like a man of mettle,
And it soft as silk remains."

Like the MAGAs are going to be decent people if we just let Trump slide?

Urinate upon them!

[Kittycatkat]

1. Please refrain from urinating on Magat's...

who are on fire.

[GreenWave]

37. But they believe in trickle down theories.

Down or upon I suppose they are indifferent to that too.

Perhaps they remember when Hitler peed in the sea claiming soon his urine molecules will be in everybody.

[C_U_L8R]

2. The problem with pissing on magats

They just might like it.

[J_William_Ryan]

3. Trump supporters

are going to be reprehensible scumbags whether Trump is indicted or not.

[malthaussen]

4. I can't help but feel that our politicians -- and political appointees...

... are living in a dream-world where the majority of the nation respects them. Now, they demand that respect, and historically at least the forms of it have been practiced, but they have apparently confused form and substance, and are determined to do nothing to undermine that "respect," and so will do anything (or not do anything, in the case of Merrick Garland) that will suggest that an office-holder (or former office-holder) may have been unworthy of respect. In doing so, they defeat their purpose, and drag down the real respect for all office-holders.

Certain of them, I feel, need to wake up and realize that, by trying to "protect" the Office, they are injuring its status in the eyes of the people. And their own status as a necessary consequence.

-- Mal

[calimary]

5. Why wouldn't they? They're extremely well-insulated.

[malthaussen]

6. Yep. And it usually doesn't matter much.

But when the rubber meets the road, as is happening both here and in the UK, their insulation is bad for them. The marks start noticing, and there are a lot of them.

-- Mal

[usaf-vet]

7. TERM LIMITS!!

HEY....!!!! by pure chance, this was my 5000 post.

I'm so glad it is reiterating something I have believed for years that needs to be done to make Congress a place to serve your constituent community NOT ENRICH yourself at the expense of others.

I have heard all the counter-arguments like we will lose good people and nothing will change. The congressional staff will be running the place. These may be so, but NOW it sure as hell isn't working for the average everyday citizen.

5000 wow!

[calimary]

8. This might help a lot. Extended to SCOTUS as well.

NO MORE LIFETIME APPOINTMENTS!!!

Sorry to shout, except for messages like this one.

[True Blue American]

32. If the Court had a code of ethics half of them would fail. The same with Congress.

Most of them would fail.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

35. Instead of term limits ...

Salaries plus benefits of Congress members keyed to, and dependent on, earnings of constituents -- some multiple of the mean or median, with Representatives being less because of the shorter term. Want a higher salary or more benefits? Do something to raise that median amongst the voters who put you in office.

Enough Justices in SCOTUS that no one President (or Moscow-supported Senate Majority Leader) can radically change the character of the court. 15 might be enough, since the average number appointed per President is 3, but it could be grown to whatever number by letting each President appoint 1 per term whether a replacement or not. (Start this after Joe dilutes the power of the Subversive 6 by appointing 4 more -- to have 1 Justice per Circuit).

[NCjack]

38. I favor term limits. The balance of benefits is greatly in favor of the people.

Also, the Civil service needs to be de-politicalized.

Good politicians who will be term limited-out can find other valuable ways to contribute to society. As for the grifters, they will continue to grift in the private sector, exposed to the criminal justice system.

Being a realist, I expect that we would be extremely fortunate if we could:

1. get money out of politics;
2. get rid of the filibuster;
3. expand the SC.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

39. Term limits eliminate experienced people -- good and bad -- in increasingly complex gov't.

[NCjack]

41. I think that the really good politicians in Congress recruited

knowledgeable and talented professional staff. The politicians' personal staff are IMHO political hacks and yes-men or women. Mark Twain said thunder is impressive, but lightning does the work. The professional staff of Congress are "lightning".

[Hermit-The-Prog]

42. Imagine 2018 - now without Pelosi, and others with experience, in the House.

Media conglomeration and the cost of campaigns are more trouble than incumbents and terms.

[COL Mustard]

12. Congrats on your 5000th post!

Now get on toward 10K!!!

[usaf-vet]

16. Thank you COL Mustard..... in the Kitchen? :-) :-)

[COL Mustard]

19. With Miss Scarlett....

But don't tell Mrs. Mustard!!!!

[usaf-vet]

29. You two timer. Now we know you're guilty of something.

Your secret is safe with me.

[DontBelieveEastisEas]

20. OP

Wish it would have been.

When not up for reelection they are much more willing to vote righteously.

NEVER have a reelection.

[Joinfortmill]

9. LOL

[GoCubsGo]

10. Yup. Not to mention that he has been bleeding support for a while now.

He's down to mostly his die-hard cult members at this point. That isn't to say that there are no loons among them who are prone to violence. But, I suspect that the worst of them got scooped up in the 1/6 investigation. That being said, not indicting that fucker will do far more damage to this country than any blowback from his crackpot cult members.

[NJCher]

14. it's no small thing to do this:

I suspect that the worst of them got scooped up in the 1/6 investigation.

Removing those with the ugliest of motivations and willingness to enact their bizarre vision has to have an impact.

Not to mention that even MAGATs are strongly disinclined to prison.

And let's not even get into the enormous legal bills that are required.

So yes, how much of a violence infrastructure is left?

[GoCubsGo]

15. I think there's also a fair amount of "disinclined to exert themselves."

Talk is cheap, but how many of them will actually carry through with their tough talk? I'm thinking not many. They don't call 'em "Meal Team Six" for nothing.

[True Blue American]

33. Whether Trump is indicted

Or not his legal bills will bankrupt him. He is down now to stealing Pennie’s from Retirees.

Most of those in his fan club are paid to be fake groupies.

[Pepsidog]

11. I'm worried about the blowback of not indicting TFG. And, off topic but important, if it is

discovered that Musk screwed with Starlink to mess with Ukraine then the billionaire class of industrialists and media robber barons must suffer in some way. I'm tired of living in a world where Murdoch, Thiel, Musk, and Bezos etc. have such a profound affect on world events. Imagine all the innocent dead Ukrainians caused by Putin's mania and that smug bastard Musk causing more chaos because of his demented, RWNJ view of Russia, Putin, and the war.

[William769]

13. I like the old English saying

Off with their heads!

[Warpy]

17. Well, I don't want to get that close to them, but point taken

They're popping their corks and spraying out poison every time there's a new revelation about that man's crimes. There is nothing we can do about that, indictments will be coming and he will be delaying everything by having his lawyers filing junk counter suits and ridiculous demands, every one needing the judge's attention. It will be a long time before a conviction and sentencing, and one hopes exhaustion sets in among his fan club before then.

[lees1975]

18. I don't think there will be much blow back.

They've had a couple of rallies at the Capitol recently, the one this weekend drew 26 people. And Trump's rallies are really faltering. I think a lot of people got a reality check on January 6th and are figuring out that worthless politics isn't worth risking life and future.

And a lot of the really radicalized ones are either dead from the COVID hoax or had their brains burned out on ivermectin or bleach.

[Martin Eden]

21. Fear not action, but inaction

Apply the rule of law
Evenly and just
Not beause we want to
But because we must

Or this great experiment
In democracy will crumble
Into dust

[meadowlander]

22. "If you boil them in a kettle/ A lovely tea to sooth your brains."

[Snackshack]

23. This country helped defeat

Hitler and has a long history of standing up to criminals and bullies worldwide…

Are we really being told that America has met its match? That DT is more powerful then America? WTF!

[rubbersole]

24. We're battling oligarchs, the richest of which is putin.

A battle that has been going on since Reagan. Citizens United and several other SC rulings have put democracy up for sale. Unless money is taken out of politics this dynamic will prevail. Fat chance that money will ever leave DC.

[True Blue American]

34. Reagan?

Teddy Roosevelt broke up the Robber Barons trust. This has been going on long before any of us were alive. It always builds to a corruptive pus that explodes all over. We are there now.

But for all the moaning 7 million more people voted for Biden, Democrats won the Congress and look what they accomplished in 2 years. I know Biden was good but did not realize how good he was. Schumer and Durbin are 2 who know the ropes in the Senate. Durbin is the Bull dog who goes right back at the Republican lies.

I have been watching the Senate on CSPAN! It has really been an eye opener watching Senema schmooze Republican Senators, including Mitch. She was chatting, even hugged one as they sat together, then came on the floor, announced the gun bill that Republicans helped pass. It was actually funny when I realized what she was doing.

[certainot]

25. i agree. a lot of the really radical violent magas ended up in jail. there's also the fact that a

lot of the teabag/trumper support is based on 3 decades of talk radio and it's king is rotting somewhere. his replacements are halfassed hacks and can't keep the band together, intimidate politicians, nor can they make excuses, spin, rationalize, lie with certitude like limbaugh.

so ineffective cowardly twits like cruz and graham and scott make moves and it's just idiotic and weak.

without the limbaugh's unified messaging power trump's 'power' is greatly diminished and media is completely ignoring that. they keep pumping up the useless mango twit.

without limbaugh not all of those blowhards are going to keep making excuses for or being intimidated by him and that pool of magas is shrinking fast, even faster when the crimes and treason really shows up. the magas aren't going to have that unified very loud megaphone behind them. but they will probably do a lot of damage locally in elections and yelling about election fraud. in those cases any violence that can be associated with those radio stations needs to be.

[Joinfortmill]

26. I'm all wobbly about NOT indicting Trump.

[Handler]

27. Not wobbly here, lock that bastard up.

[Blue Owl]

28. Show Mr. "You're Fired" the same mercy he's shown thousands of others

Lock his fat ass up, in a cell with Mayor Stink so they can live in each other’s filth the rest of their days

[G2theD]

30. If a Trump indictment brings them out into the open

Cut the lawn.

[Silent3]

31. Tell it to the wobbly DoJ n/t

[The Jungle 1]

36. Yea we appeased the south for 157 years.

It didn't work we should have punished them.
Lock up every maga puke and then beat them.

[Kaleva]

40. It isn't up to us to let TFG slide or not so there's nothing for us to be wobbly about.