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fanfanois

(61 posts)
Thu Oct 13, 2022, 10:38 AM Oct 2022

There goes the narrative. Latinos support midterm Democrats by more than 2:1

Pundits find nothing more fun than to pretend that Latinos are slowly drifting towards Republicans.
proof? Who needs proof?


Latino voters break 52% for the Democrats, 23% for the Republican and 21% say they support neither candidate.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/13/politics/cnn-poll-voter-preferences/index.html
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There goes the narrative. Latinos support midterm Democrats by more than 2:1 (Original Post) fanfanois Oct 2022 OP
I hope it is true JohnSJ Oct 2022 #1
Indeed! nt Wounded Bear Oct 2022 #2
Is that going up or down? Seems to me that 52% should be a lot higher FoxNewsSucks Oct 2022 #3
down Celerity Oct 2022 #11
That's what I thought. FoxNewsSucks Oct 2022 #16
Also the huge numbers of Latinos converting to evangelical christianity. I have posted on this Celerity Oct 2022 #17
I don't get why that many support repubs after trump's... brush Oct 2022 #4
Well, the full narrative is "Latinos used to support Dems 3:1, now it's down to 2:1" Fiendish Thingy Oct 2022 #5
That would represent the narrative and concerns much more accurately. Igel Oct 2022 #15
We can win them back, I believe. Elessar Zappa Oct 2022 #24
Didn't see the line you quote in the article... Wounded Bear Oct 2022 #6
Hasn't that been higher than 52% before? Silent3 Oct 2022 #7
23% Republican and 21% who support neither candidate is not good news. Just A Box Of Rain Oct 2022 #8
Yeah, but look at 2020 results in south Florida-- "safe" Dem House seats lost to Repugs dutch777 Oct 2022 #9
If only this line wasn't in the article... sarisataka Oct 2022 #10
Sadly The title thread is a lie Mystery sage Oct 2022 #12
Latino support wasnt always Democratic ColinC Oct 2022 #13
The story was always law abiding republicans break from magat party. GreenWave Oct 2022 #14
you left out a big part that undercuts your slant Celerity Oct 2022 #18
This close to the midterms, they should be using SlimJimmy Oct 2022 #19
It's not mysterious what has occurred. David__77 Oct 2022 #20
I don't follow your line of reasoning Zeitghost Oct 2022 #21
I hope this is true helpisontheway Oct 2022 #22
I'm being optimistic but I was so disheartened driving through San Joaquin and Coachella Valley MenloParque Oct 2022 #23
Florida could be interesting then, polls have been all over Amishman Oct 2022 #25

FoxNewsSucks

(10,464 posts)
3. Is that going up or down? Seems to me that 52% should be a lot higher
Thu Oct 13, 2022, 10:43 AM
Oct 2022

considering the policies and words coming from republicons.

If support for Democrats is going down, then the rightwing strategy of turning numerous radio stations into spanish-speaking versions of Fox is working.

Celerity

(44,016 posts)
11. down
Thu Oct 13, 2022, 11:03 AM
Oct 2022

One of the biggest stories in #Texas is what has unfolded in South Texas. Look at Starr County in the Rio Grande Valley, heavy Latino population. It’s a small county but the swing is unreal. Clinton won 79-19 in 2016. Biden won 52-47.


FoxNewsSucks

(10,464 posts)
16. That's what I thought.
Thu Oct 13, 2022, 11:17 AM
Oct 2022

Rush Limpbaugh & Hannity showed the power of AM hate radio.

In TX and south FL, they're now doing it with spanish-speaking stations. Obviously, it is working, and our elected politicians continue to largely ignore the manipulative power of all media, including easily-available AM radio.

Celerity

(44,016 posts)
17. Also the huge numbers of Latinos converting to evangelical christianity. I have posted on this
Thu Oct 13, 2022, 11:26 AM
Oct 2022

extensively here.

brush

(54,081 posts)
4. I don't get why that many support repubs after trump's...
Thu Oct 13, 2022, 10:46 AM
Oct 2022

egregious policies against POCs, especially how cruelly he broke up families on the border.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,750 posts)
5. Well, the full narrative is "Latinos used to support Dems 3:1, now it's down to 2:1"
Thu Oct 13, 2022, 10:47 AM
Oct 2022

In certain states (TX & FL in particular) Latino support for Dems has been weakening. Some in the media have speculated that Dems would lose the support of the majority of Latino voters, but that’s clearly not going to happen. Nevertheless, there is an identifiable trend over the past few cycles.

Let’s hope that changes in November.

Igel

(35,423 posts)
15. That would represent the narrative and concerns much more accurately.
Thu Oct 13, 2022, 11:16 AM
Oct 2022

But it's problematic because it doesn't fit the meta-narrative.

Elessar Zappa

(14,180 posts)
24. We can win them back, I believe.
Thu Oct 13, 2022, 01:00 PM
Oct 2022

Most haven’t been voting Republican that long. We just need to understand that Hispanics have concerns other than immigration. I believe a coordinated messaging campaign focused on kitchen table issues can win many back to our side.

Wounded Bear

(58,849 posts)
6. Didn't see the line you quote in the article...
Thu Oct 13, 2022, 10:48 AM
Oct 2022

And indeed, the headline absolutely contradicts what you've posted.

Silent3

(15,493 posts)
7. Hasn't that been higher than 52% before?
Thu Oct 13, 2022, 10:50 AM
Oct 2022

52% isn’t bad, but if it has been higher, the narrative you don’t like isn’t inaccurate.

dutch777

(3,078 posts)
9. Yeah, but look at 2020 results in south Florida-- "safe" Dem House seats lost to Repugs
Thu Oct 13, 2022, 10:58 AM
Oct 2022

Somewhere we Dems are missing something relative to Latino and other minority voters. We'll take 52% but as others said, 75% should be the mark.

sarisataka

(19,056 posts)
10. If only this line wasn't in the article...
Thu Oct 13, 2022, 11:00 AM
Oct 2022
The demographic divides the poll reveals ahead of this election suggest that core Democratic groups such as younger voters, Black and Latino voters, and even to some degree women, are expressing less support for Democratic candidates than they have in recent past elections

Mystery sage

(576 posts)
12. Sadly The title thread is a lie
Thu Oct 13, 2022, 11:03 AM
Oct 2022

While I do want more optimism coming into midterms terms I don't need lies told to me thank you very much.

ColinC

(8,372 posts)
13. Latino support wasnt always Democratic
Thu Oct 13, 2022, 11:07 AM
Oct 2022

Like didn't it take Republicans passing extremely anti immigration laws in California to help make California a solid blue state? But first Dems had to run on it, before they could pull their voters in. This might be a similar path in Texas before you can just assume that Demographic changes will determine control.

GreenWave

(6,908 posts)
14. The story was always law abiding republicans break from magat party.
Thu Oct 13, 2022, 11:09 AM
Oct 2022

But that would mean a Blue tsunami which does not bring in the bucks that a 50/50 does.

SlimJimmy

(3,185 posts)
19. This close to the midterms, they should be using
Thu Oct 13, 2022, 11:35 AM
Oct 2022

only likely voters. Why these pollsters continue to use a sample of registered voters is beyond me. The only other scenario that is worse, is when they use only adults in their polling.

The new CNN Poll was conducted by SSRS on September 3 through October 5 among a random national sample of 1,982 adults initially reached by mail, including 1,577 registered voters and 1,198 likely voters. Surveys were either conducted online or by telephone with a live interviewer. Results for the full sample have a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3.1 percentage points; it is 3.5 points among registered voters and 4.0 among likely voters. The survey includes an oversample of adults living in 50 competitive congressional districts, with districts chosen based on publicly available race ratings at the time the sample was chosen. Results among the 540 registered voters in that sample have an error margin of plus or minus 5.4 points; it is 5.6 points among the 484 likely voters. That subset was weighted to reflect its proper share of the overall adult population of the United States.

David__77

(23,720 posts)
20. It's not mysterious what has occurred.
Thu Oct 13, 2022, 11:41 AM
Oct 2022

And it has to do with CLASS. Democrats must be perceived as the party of labor.

Zeitghost

(3,916 posts)
21. I don't follow your line of reasoning
Thu Oct 13, 2022, 11:53 AM
Oct 2022

You claim the narrative that Latinos are slowly leaving the Democratic Party but then post data that completely contradicts that claim.

52%, if true, is not good, even if the Republicans are only getting half of those not voting Dem.

MenloParque

(516 posts)
23. I'm being optimistic but I was so disheartened driving through San Joaquin and Coachella Valley
Thu Oct 13, 2022, 12:42 PM
Oct 2022

a year ago. These two regions produce more fruits and veggies than anywhere in this country. The amount of Trump, Let’s go Brandon, fuck JB, Gadsden, pro gun 2A, Fuck your feelings flags that I saw on trucks driven by Mexican farmers was so sad. I nearly wanted to cry. A year later here I am GOTV canvassing in San Joaquin County. Gotta keep fighting!

Amishman

(5,563 posts)
25. Florida could be interesting then, polls have been all over
Thu Oct 13, 2022, 02:06 PM
Oct 2022

We've had anything from within the margin of error to Rubio leading by 7+.

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