****1/6 Committee Hearings Day 9, thread ONE (12:45 pm EDT) ****

[BumRushDaShow]

Hello DUers! Scrivener7 will be unable to host the "live threads" for today's, most likely, final hearing by the Select Committee to Investigate the January 6 Attack on the United States Capitol, leading to a final report to Congress by the end of the year.

As we all know, since the last hearing in July, a veritable avalanche of revelations and criminal actions have occurred that continue to play out in grand juries and in the courts, both at the federal and state levels. Today's hearing is expected to update the public about even more that has transpired, including the Committee's obtaining critical details from over a million Secret Service exchanges via text/email, etc., as well as obtaining some testimony from Ginny Thomas, wife of SCOTUS Justice Clarence Thomas.

To date, there were no witnesses scheduled to testify in person in the hearing room, however all 9 members of the Committee are expected to participate and present a portion of the Committee's final summary, based on what has been an unprecedented amount of evidence that they have compiled as part of their investigation about what happened January 6, what lead up to it, and the aftermath.

For those without a TV and/or who are unable to watch (if at work or home or if traveling, etc but have a mobile device with internet access), here are a few of what are many streams that can be used to view/listen to today's session, including the J6 Committee's own stream on YouTube (the major broadcast - ABC, NBC, CBS, and cable networks CNN, MSNBC, etc., and print - WaPo, WSJ, etc., usually air and/or stream these hearings as well) . If you have a local or nearby Public Radio station, they will often broadcast the audio on those stations using NPR's feed. Also don't forget to check through the live threads to perhaps get some good, often witty soundbite commentary from those watching/listening and posting about what is happening -

[FalloutShelter]

1. Checking in BRDS

Thanks for doing this.

[SheltieLover]

2. Ty for making thread!

[spooky3]

5. Yes, thank you, BRDS! Nt

[Scrivener7]

3. I am so bummed that I am going to miss this live, but thank you so much

to BumRushDaShow for hosting! Can't wait to read the threads and watch the hearings on the replay!

[Chainfire]

4. I have the popcorn popping and the recliner warming.

My wife and I have been fortunate to watch all of the hearings and are looking forward to this one. Talk to 'ya later!

[Kingofalldems]

6. What's the agenda today?

[SheltieLover]

13. I'd read yesterday that the focus would be about establishing tfg's state of mind at the time

[Kingofalldems]

15. Thanks.

[SheltieLover]

24. YW! 👍

[crickets]

7. Thanks for setting up a thread, BRTS!

[AnotherMother4Peace]

8. Thank you for hosting DU responses to this important & historic event. nt

[irisblue]

9. Thank you for doing this

[asiliveandbreathe]

10. Thank you so much for the links..Love Ben Meisellas..thank you for the

Meidas Touch link..looks like a great panel.. a refreshing number of panelists unleashed..

Ben Meiselas, was an attorney who represented former NFL player Colin Kaepernick...

[BumRushDaShow]

21. You're welcome!

I had been including their stream in other hearings!

[gab13by13]

11. I hope it lasts until 4PM

when we can get some good cable news anchors. Andrea Mitchell and Katy Tur , oh well.

[woodsprite]

19. I do too! I have a mandatory work meeting from 1:30-2:30. nt

[RocRizzo55]

12. Thanks for starting this thread. n/t

[BumRushDaShow]

14. Hi all - here I am

In between LBN updates and running (okay... limping ) up and down to the basement washing clothes (that are done now).

[SheltieLover]

20. Why limping?

Did your open tabs overflow & create a slip hazzard?

I hope you feel better soon!

[BumRushDaShow]

23. The tabs are always a hazard!

It's more "age"!

[SheltieLover]

25. I know what you mean!

I've cleaned mine up & am down to 96 open, all personal interest stuff...

Glad you didn't sustain an injury!

[BumRushDaShow]

16. Here we go - Committee members filing in

[Marthe48]

17. Thanks for the links!

I just got back from a dr. appt. and I VOTED! Ready to watch this hearing.

Thank you for the links!

[BumRushDaShow]

18. Gavelling in now.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

22. I just peeked in on Faux. They "appear" to be covering it. Let's see if they narrate over it.

It would be truly wonderful if Faux covers it honestly, because, Lord knows, their audience needs to see it more than anyone.

[livetohike]

26. Chair Thompson summarizing the previous hearings n/t

[Emile]

27. Popcorn popped!

[BumRushDaShow]

28. Bennie Thompson is done his opening and Liz Cheney is up with hers

[RocRizzo55]

29. How about a vote

to forward all findings to Dept. of Justice for actively pursuing indictment and prosecution.

[Lars39]

32. Would that be great!

[malaise]

116. Good spot - business meeting not a hearing

This is oming up - including a subpoena for the Slobfather

[Lars39]

30. This is not a hearing, but a business meeting

so 5hat they can vote to pursue evidence.

[FalloutShelter]

31. They are going to VOTE?

On recommending criminal referral?..
seems Liz is saying not.

[BumRushDaShow]

36. That's what was said!

[crickets]

33. Bennie Thompson sounds like the committee is setting up to show

"state of mind, motivation, and intent" on tfg's part. That sounds like groundwork for charges?

May hold committee vote regarding future investigation based on what they cover today.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

34. ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, CNN, MSNBC all covering it. yes!

[FarPoint]

100. Yhippee!!!!

Finally ....

[crickets]

35. Liz Cheney placing blame for Jan 6 squarely on tfg. nt

[NewHendoLib]

37. Brilliant, clear summary opening by Cheney

[spooky3]

39. Agree--delivered very well too. Nt

[livetohike]

38. Our nation cannot only punish the foot soldiers who

tried to overthrow the election.” Liz Cheney

[crickets]

42. 👆👆 I loved hearing that. Cheney did a brilliant job in her opening statement. nt

[livetohike]

44. Rep. Lofgren: Trump made a plan to stay in office prior to

Election Day.

[BumRushDaShow]

40. Cheney is done and Zoe Lofgren is up with her opening statement

[BumRushDaShow]

41. Lofgren playing clips including Kushner and Stepien

who were trying to promote mail ballots and was a "good thing"....

[livetohike]

43. Rep Lofgren showing video of Bill Stepien, Trump's

campaign manager testifying.

[crickets]

46. tfg not only declared victory the night of the election,

he asked for all counting to stop and declared it a fraud if it continued past election day. It was planned before election day to do this. Staff knew about this and made an effort to keep Pence from echoing this.

eta
Parscale said the plan to declare victory went back as far as JULY.

Bannon clip before the election explaining the strategy to declare victory regardless, that if tfg was losing he was going to claim the election was stolen. "There's going to be some crazy shit." 🙄

[livetohike]

47. Rep. Lofgren: Steve Bannon clip saying Trump was going to declare

victory even if he loses. Bannon refused to testify in our hearings.

[nolabear]

49. LOVE hearing Bannon and Stone used against them.

What utter assholes. Hiding behind the very government they tried to destroy.

[livetohike]

52. Can't wait to see them go to prison! n/t

[BumRushDaShow]

48. Lofgren mentions

outside advisor who had a pre-prepared memo where 45 declared "I won" with the memo dated Oct. 31. Also showed the infamous clip of Bannon declaring "strap in".

Now showing Stone also proclaiming you declare you "won".

[livetohike]

65. Rep. Kinzinger: 62 law cases resulted in 61 losses. The cases were

baseless as described by many judges.

[livetohike]

50. Clips of Roger Stone asserting his 5th Amendment rights. N/t

[NewHendoLib]

51. Wow, we are diving right into the scummiest of the scum

Stone, Bannon, Flynn, Meadows. Grossest of the gross

[BumRushDaShow]

53. Lofgren now showing Oathkeepers and "seditious conspiracy"

and their relationship to Roger Stone.

[crickets]

54. Stone knew the election would be "up in the air" on election night

but the plan was to declare victory anyway. "Possession in nine tenths of the law" and "Fuck you" bluster etc in a vid clip. Stone told tfg he should appoint a special counsel to prosecute "election fraud" so he could stay in office. Flynn and Meadows also involved in planning. Stone was the one who brought in Oath Keepers and Proud Boys.

eta Lofgren uses the word "premeditated" to describe plans for the Big Lie.

[Emile]

55. I want to see clips of Ginni Thomas!

[BumRushDaShow]

56. Lofgren now establishing the plan was "pre-meditated"

before the election - and has now tied them to those who helped carry it out (Oathkeepers and Proud Boys).

[crickets]

61. That word is important if there are any plans to recommend DOJ press charges. nt

[BumRushDaShow]

63. Yup

and what Kinzinger is establishing is that he knew he lost and started "wrapping up affairs" including ordering the immediate and complete withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan and Somalia.

[BumRushDaShow]

57. Lofgren is now done and Adam Kinzinger is up with an opening statement and clips

[nolabear]

58. Jason Miller looks way better with that mask on.

[BumRushDaShow]

59. Kinzinger playing clips of multiple people including aides

that indicated that he knew he lost but was going to fight it anyway. Then he started issuing troop withdrawal orders...

[gademocrat7]

60. Incredible presentation from J6 Committee.

[NewHendoLib]

62. I can't believe that Stone and Bannon aren't locked away forever.

[SheltieLover]

66. Not to mention tfg.

[dchill]

104. All of this!

👍

[crickets]

64. Kinzinger showing the plans to leave Somalia and Afghanistan

*before* the next presidential term began: Jan 15. tfg signed the order. Defense contested the issue, some called it "odd and dangerous" and said it would have been "catastrophic." tfg was doing this knowing that he would be leaving office.

[BumRushDaShow]

67. Kinzinger going over the ridiculousness of the cases that were filed

(62 where 61 were lost) and how the judges excoriated the lawyers that brought those cases (some even censured).

[crickets]

68. "historic and profound abuse of the judicial process"

[BumRushDaShow]

72. Kinzinger playing clip of Scalia's son (who had been Sect. DOL)

and how he went to 45 to tell him that it was over.

[NewHendoLib]

69. All. Of. This. Is because "he" can't be seen as a loser.

[sinkingfeeling]

74. +1000

[BumRushDaShow]

76. Exactly.

A P.R. move.

[livetohike]

70. Rep. Kinzinger showing clips of some on Trump's staff stating

they tried to get Trump to concede the election.

[cilla4progress]

71. Once again -

so well done!

Haven't we appeased the orange pig enough already?!

[BumRushDaShow]

73. Kingzer is done and now Elaine Luria is up for her opening statement

[Marthe48]

75. The voters who rejected cheney and kinzinger will rue the day

They might be r's, but they defended the U.S. Constitution against all enemies.

[sinkingfeeling]

82. Kinzinger decided not to run for re-election.

[Marthe48]

109. thanks for the reminder

n/t

[NewHendoLib]

77. How can we be letting a borderline personality disorder asshole put

The country through all of this!

How can he possibly be holding on to his cult?

[dchill]

110. There have never been real enforceable laws...

... against being a horrible president. All there is is the oath of office.

[maxsolomon]

118. Important point. All we have are Presidential norms.

He broke them all.

Conviction in an Impeachment trial is nigh impossible.

[ShazzieB]

123. Trump has narcissistic personality disorder, combined with anti-social personality disorder.

Trump is a malignant narcissist, which is what you get when those two things are combined: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/neurosagacity/201702/how-tell-youre-dealing-malignant-narcissist

[livetohike]

78. These clips of Trump are nauseating ( he's talking about

how there was fraud in the election).

[NewHendoLib]

79. It is all making me really upset yet again. These are so important...

But so hard to watch

[livetohike]

83. I wish he would disappear. I wish his whole slimy family

would disappear.

[Novara]

84. I know.

I can't BELIEVE how angry these hearings make me.

[crickets]

88. It's so upsetting to hear him again, spewing lie after lie.

Having to go through four years of this crazy man in office was traumatic. He has to be charged and tried so that he never, ever gets near any level of power like that again.

[BumRushDaShow]

80. Luria is showing a series of clips of how after staff and advisors

insisted there was no fraud, etc., 45 ignored it and continued to spout the CT about election fraud in state after state.

[irisblue]

81. I'd forgotten how annoying the apricothellbeast voice is.

[BumRushDaShow]

86. I hit the mute every time he is shown.

[cilla4progress]

85. Alex Jones verdict helps

with demonstrating how to hold people accountable for their lies - and the justice and responsibility of doing so.

I'm sick about what these people have done to our once proud, admired, nation.

[NewHendoLib]

87. This is a lesson on authoritarian gaslighting and planting lies for power

This is still utterly incomprehensible

[asiliveandbreathe]

108. Indeed, and still we stand..our flag waves proudly because WE THE PEOPLE

Are fighting on a battlefield ..of lies..our weapon..our VOTES..

How close we came, and STILL, need to fight..listening is so hard, but necessary, we need to know who all our enemies are.

I am torn as to why all the people surrounding this pos just didn't get up and walk out earlier..and on the other hand, SOME did the right thing and stayed..some, thought he could pull out the overturning of the election, for others, to protect our country..it shows in their testimony who our honest countrymen and women are..

Too many to name on the wrong side..may they spend their days with a guilty conscience..if they even have that constitution..

[BumRushDaShow]

89. Luria describing the attempts to pressure state officials to declare fraud

and change the vote. Also attempted to bring in DOJ to intervene to do the same.

[NewHendoLib]

90. If TFG doesn't pay dearly for this, our country is toast.

He must be disqualified from any office ever again

[maxsolomon]

120. I don't see a scenario where he's disqualified.

Or that he is held accountable in any way whatsoever.

Impeachment 2.0 was the opportunity, but the GQP Senators are craven, traitorous cowards.

[BumRushDaShow]

91. Luria is done and now Stephanie Murphy is up with her opening remarks

[crickets]

92. GA and Raffensberger: "Come on fellas, I need 11,000 votes!"

God, the GA call upsets me so much. He's spewing veiled threats over the phone trying to get his way -- wanting votes to appear out of thin air! Our state counted those votes three times for that jackass. HE LOST. Ugh.

[BumRushDaShow]

93. Murphy going through the "fake electors" plan and Pence pressure campaign

[NewHendoLib]

94. This is why I can never again have anything to do with a TFG supporter

[NoMoreRepugs]

99. My feelings exactly.

[Emile]

95. When will Ginni Thomas testimony be used?

[IcyPeas]

96. Mike Pence! what a man!

[FarPoint]

97. I am so glad I found this thread.

[BumRushDaShow]

98. Murphy is done. Adam Schiff is up now for his opening statement

[livetohike]

101. Rep. Schiff up. New evidence received from the Secret Service. n/t

[BumRushDaShow]

102. Schiff is bringing up the Secret Service and how much was deleted after they had been asked for it

but they still have over 1 million texts/emails from the Secret Service describing what was going on.

[crickets]

107. It's obvious now that everyone at all security levels knew violence was coming on Jan 6. nt

[BumRushDaShow]

113. Yup. They had evidencce of all the chatter

and should have had something in place to implement once they saw the crowds that showed up at the rally.

[BumRushDaShow]

103. Schiff showed some examples about how there was intel

about "occupying" the Capitol.

[BumRushDaShow]

105. *****THREAD TWO IS UP*******

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217248819

[Lars39]

106. "Armed and ready,Mr. President."

Secret Service email

Holy shit

[dchill]

111. ! x 1,000,000!

[blogslug]

112. Yep

[Tetrachloride]

114. is that a real quote?

if yes, is there a link

[Lars39]

115. Plastered on the screen in post right above yours!

[jaxexpat]

117. Cipolone deserves hard time just for that smirk!

[Bluethroughu]

119. Anybody catch the testimony where Miller was said to have provoked

These insurrectionists to come to the capital, but wasn't He IN CHARGE OF CALLING UP THE NATIONAL GUARD, which didn't happen until hours later! He should be arrested and trump was advised of all this from the online pre-rhetoric to the happenings as they happened....prison 20 years!

Everyone that was part of this insurrection in that administration should go to prison! This was a coordinated attack against our country! If they were in the former administration and knew but waited until the attack was under way, they should also NEVER be allowed to hold office in this country again! Nothing.

[The Polack MSgt]

121. Just go ahead and subpeona that shit bag out loud on live TV

As my hillbilly grandma used to say "in broad daylight in front of God and everybody"

[William769]

124. Which video is from today?

Not all of them is it?