****1/6 Committee Hearings Day 9, thread TWO ****

[BumRushDaShow]

LINK TO THREAD ONE - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217248388


For those without a TV and/or who are unable to watch (if at work or home or if traveling, etc but have a mobile device with internet access), here are a few of what are many streams that can be used to view/listen to today's session, including the J6 Committee's own stream on YouTube (the major broadcast - ABC, NBC, CBS, and cable networks CNN, MSNBC, etc., and print - WaPo, WSJ, etc., usually air and/or stream these hearings as well) . If you have a local or nearby Public Radio station, they will often broadcast the audio on those stations using NPR's feed. Also don't forget to check through the live threads to perhaps get some good, often witty soundbite commentary from those watching/listening and posting about what is happening -

[Lars39]

1. Schiff showing Secret Service emails Jan 5

[FarPoint]

8. watching now...

Had tiio step away...but also recording...

[BumRushDaShow]

2. Schiff is providing examples of intel from various intelligence agencies

including the Secret Service, with summaries about the violence that was being planned and discussed between various entities including the Oathkeepers, etc.

[crickets]

4. Secret Service knew about the Proud Boys' planning TEN DAYS before.

They all knew about it, could read the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers' plans online regarding violence and even plans to kill.

[NewHendoLib]

3. Some aroma of LIHOP among some secret service???

This all more and more just stinks...

[BumRushDaShow]

7. I expect some were willing to go with MIHOP

[efhmc]

114. What does that mean, please?

[Midnight Writer]

118. LIHOP-Let it happen on purpose MIHOP-Make it happen on purpose

Lots of unfamiliar ones today, such as TMP and QRF. I have no idea what these are.

[efhmc]

120. Thanks for the help. Google was not my friend today but you and DU were.

[BumRushDaShow]

131. Congrats on the 14K posts!

I remember those terms were used quite a bit revolving around the CT about 9/11.

[efhmc]

134. Thanks. I hadn't even noticed.

[SheltieLover]

5. Kicking for visibility

[livetohike]

6. Showing Secret Service texts from Jan 6 stating

many weapons seized that day.

[tishaLA]

9. This Schiff stuff re: the Secret Service

is incredible. No wonder those texts went missing.

[crickets]

10. Yes. It's pretty horrifying. nt

[asiliveandbreathe]

13. What a pos Jason Miller is..he lied..color me not surprised..DOJ, are you listening

Calling Jason Miller..

[sinkingfeeling]

11. ABC running that the J6 committee will vote to subpeona TFG today.

[SheltieLover]

16. Long overdue imo.

Lock. The. Slob. Up.

[gademocrat7]

12. These Secret Service communications

are very disturbing.

[BumRushDaShow]

14. Schiff showing how SS intel was seeing more info chatter about Pence

and threats against him unless he does "the right thing".

[NewHendoLib]

15. The J6 cte is laying out where all the malignant cells are.

Will Garland have the courage and spine to cut it all out?

The rot goes deep and wide.

[BumRushDaShow]

17. Schiff established how 45 stoked the violence with his rhetoric.

[question everything]

22. This is really the only new evidence

Until now, for more than an hour, they just repeated older clips.

Really will be hard to keep the attention of short attention spam audience

[BumRushDaShow]

18. ****COMMITTEE IS NOW IN A 10 MINUTE RECESS*****

[uponit7771]

19. Secret Service info is pretty damn scary !! They knew some shit was going to go down !!!

[Novara]

20. So the SS was EXPLICITLY warned

And they did nothing. That's what they were trying to cover up.

[dalton99a]

21. Kick

[BumRushDaShow]

23. Committee to vote to subpoena 45!!!!!! Per CSPAN and multiple outlets

Link to tweet

Haley Talbot
@haleytalbotnbc
·
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NEW + SCOOP w/ @alivitali

The January 6th Committee plans to vote to subpoena former President Donald Trump during today’s hearing, sources familiar with the committee’s plans tell @NBCNews
1:57 PM · Oct 13, 2022

[Marthe48]

24. Such a complex description of crime

Hard to pick out something to comment on. The J6 Committee is weaving together the various strands that created a coup that failed. I think one big reason it failed is because the traitor and henchmen underestimated authentic love of country. Real patriotism was the strength that overcame the coup.

[asiliveandbreathe]

26. From your comment..nailed it..and we must stay ever vigilant..

I think one big reason it failed is because the traitor and henchmen underestimated authentic love of country. Real patriotism was the strength that overcame the coup.
..Martha48

[Novara]

37. Right, and don't forget the Capitol police

Officer Fanone heard about the coup riot that day and even though he was off-duty he showed up. I am guessing he wasn't the only one. Those people are LOYAL.

[Marthe48]

41. They are heroes to me

Some of the testimony I heard in earlier hearings was harrowing, and brought tears to my eyes.

The henchmen who write texts full of cussing and threats will get no respect from me. Ever.

[crickets]

112. "the traitor and henchmen underestimated authentic love of country."

"Real patriotism was the strength that overcame the coup." Well said. 💙

[Marthe48]

115. Thank you

The actions of the people who put their physical lives on the line, and held the line, are inspirations for me to follow their example.

[orleans]

25. have trump come to the committee & swear to tell the truth?

like that orange douchebag criminal has EVER told the truth?
like he would tell the truth to the committee?
hahaha

i'd love to see it--but everything out of his ugly mouth would be bullshit

[mahina]

27. Do you folks know how long this break is expected to be? Also

Is one of the links above or other link going to be available to watch again?

Thank you.

[BumRushDaShow]

28. 10 minutes from around my post time above...

[mahina]

31. Thank you!

[Upthevibe]

33. Kick. N/T

[livetohike]

29. I think a 10 minute break. They should be coming in soon. n/t

[mahina]

34. Thanks!

[BumRushDaShow]

30. ****RESUMING - COMMITTEE IS RETURNING TO THE DAIS*****

[BumRushDaShow]

32. Resuming - Pete Aguilar is now giving his opening statement

[livetohike]

35. Rep. Aguilar opening statement. n/t

[BumRushDaShow]

36. Aguilar noting that the WH knew violence was being planned

and was warned, but still went forward with the rally.

[livetohike]

38. " let's stop and consider at this point the president's state of mind."

Rep. Aguilar talking about Trump’s anger.

[Hekate]

39. Just wanted to say yet again: DU KNEW

We had people willing to step into those sewers and report back to us. If we knew, FBI and SS knew.

When some of our own posted about going to DC to counter-protest, I was among those who said things like: For God’s sake, don’t go — they want to engage in armed battle and will kill you.

Absolutely sickens me that FBI and Secret Service and all just let it happen.

[Hortensis]

52. Thank goodness for all who kept a counterprotest from

forming. The traitors, outside and in authority, badly needed that excuse for violence and to confuse the situation and public about the real danger to be stopped. I suspect this one successful move by many who saw the danger did more to defeat the insurrection than everything but the Capitol Police and Pence.

[BumRushDaShow]

40. Aguilar mentions that obstruction was taking place

where staff were told not to mention certain things that had gone on.

[crickets]

42. Testimony about the shock when tfg wanted to go to the Capitol.

"We knew then it would no longer be a normal, democratic event." The words insurrection and coup are used. Security knew exactly what he was up to in trying to go to the Capitol.

[BumRushDaShow]

43. Aguilar showing SS email about issues with President

at the Capitol. An "OTR" (off the record event).

[BumRushDaShow]

44. Aguilar is done and now Jamie Raskin is up with is opening remarks

[Lars39]

45. Raskin's speaking now

[Hermit-The-Prog]

46. Raskin up.

[Traildogbob]

62. Fucking WOW

I did not wanna hear Andrea Mitchel’s take on the committee during break so I switched to PBS to hear first half analysis. A panel member was going on about how this will backfire and destroy the committees credibility going after trump this close to elections. That it would build support for trump and GQP.
Never. Ins the detail of planned murder and government takeover, that is minor, we gotta be more concerned of political timing.
And we wonder why OUR bridge to democracy is being blown up like the Crimea bridge.
USA…USA….USA!!!! Fuck GQP and media. When the hell did Murdock buy PBS?

[maxsolomon]

107. Who was the PBS panel member?

They were almost certainly a Repuke.

[Traildogbob]

117. I did not stay long enough to see.

Was a man. Surprise.

[crickets]

47. Cipollone doesn't want to admit that tfg was unwilling to act.

He's weaseling with "privilege" not to say that tfg was okay with what was going on.

[BumRushDaShow]

48. Raskin listing all the various staff/aides and others from Faux including Hannity

how 45 was watching all the violent events happening from the private dining room and refused to act to stop it.

[BumRushDaShow]

49. Raskin to show previously unseen footage of members of Congress being taken to

undisclosed locations.

[Marthe48]

50. Anatomy of a coup

I am horrified that this happened. It never should have been this close, not with our country's history, not with our reputation, not with our previous actions. We had a terrifically great country, even in the recent past.

We got derailed, and we have to get back on track. Otherwise, the U.S.A. is just another country, and not very good at that.

[BumRushDaShow]

51. Clip shown of Pelosi and Clyburn

in a secure location (auditorium) as the situation in the chamber is being described to them including members putting on gas masks.

[BumRushDaShow]

54. Showing Schumer on a cell phone

with the Speaker on calling the Secty of Defense along with Pelosi.

[crickets]

64. Pelosi is a rock. She is calmly talking to MD mayor about needing more

security to come to the Capitol. She and others are saying they need active duty National Guard troops immediately. She is also clearly stating it's at the instigation of tfg. There are demands that tfg call off the crowds. The violence is raging, and Pelosi is on the phone saying, "We have to get this job done today."

She's so focused and strong. Love her.

[Hekate]

69. She is indeed a rock

[spooky3]

126. She also spoke with VA Gov Northam who was

Sending 200 state police officers, and a National Guard unit, if they were authorized to act outside VA.

[crickets]

130. Yep. She talked to multiple parties, and stayed on the phone

refusing to take no for an answer until things got done. Biggest backbone of the day.

[livetohike]

53. I'm in tears watching this new footage and watching

Nancy Pelosi’s reactions.

[Lars39]

55. You're not alone!

Crying here, too. They were having to scramble for help.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

56. There are still trumpers (synonymous with traitors) in the Executive branch. Purge 'em!

[BumRushDaShow]

57. Pelosi on the phone with Northam

for request to send VA National Guard. Both she and Schumer were in the same location with the TV on showing them breach the Capitol.

Schumer apparently also was talking to "Mr. law enforccement" Barr!!!!

[Lars39]

59. Schumer was righteously breathing fire!

[crickets]

66. Truth! And rightly so! nt

[spooky3]

127. And he agreed if they were authorized to act outside VA. Nt

[BumRushDaShow]

129. Yup

It was interesting to hear them work through all the legalities of these types of requests.

I recall articles that were written around the time of the insurrection that described the back and forth of Pelosi asking for assistancce but to actually see/hear it really underscored some of the issues and possible loopholes that need to be looked at. Am guessing their staff was documenting what they were doing for future criminal evidence gathering.

[tishaLA]

58. Speaker Pelosi and Sen Schumer did tons more than the WH

to try to save the Capitol. It's repugnant.

[BumRushDaShow]

125. That's because THEIR official seat of power was being torn up

and "his" (WH) wasn't.

[milestogo]

60. God, I hate these people.

And Trump is one of the vilest human beings to ever walk the face of the earth.

[BumRushDaShow]

61. Now Pelosi s hown on the phone talking to Pence

Pence was in a different location.

[livetohike]

63. Clip of Nancy Pelosi on the phone with Pence. n/t

[Marthe48]

65. Madame Speaker

grace under fire. Mr. Schumer, heroism.

For not previously living through an attempted violent take over of our country, they did a fine job of contacting emergency services to turn the tide.

[BumRushDaShow]

67. Pelosi/Schumer on phone with Pence speaker on

and was told they could reconvene "in about an hour".

[Tommy Carcetti]

68. Wow, Nancy Pelosi is a BADASS.

Crazy video.

[BumRushDaShow]

71. She was "born and raised" in there

Her father was in Congress when she was born until she was about 8 or 9.

[tishaLA]

70. The footage of the Democratic leaders is shocking.

[redacted[ was busy watching TV so they had to step into the breach.

[Novara]

72. That video - hoo boy.

[crickets]

73. McCarthy on the phone with tfg getting no help.

"Well, Kevin. I guess they're more upset about the election than you are." McCarthy was begging for help and got shrugged off. It's amazing that he's still kissing ass now.

Then of course, tfg sends the tweet about Pence to infuriate the crowd even more. Ugh.

[rurallib]

76. McCarthy has to be one of the biggest cowards and turncoats

in our history.

[livetohike]

74. Rep Raskin showing texts from the Secret Service

discussing Trump’s tweet about Pence.

[BumRushDaShow]

75. Example SS chatter

"President tweeting about Pence. Probably not going to e good for Pence"

[Lars39]

77. The anonymous Twitter employee has come forward

for further testimony! Sorry didn’t catch her name.

[BumRushDaShow]

78. Raskin playing Mulvaney and Ciao

excoriating 45's lack of action before resigning.

[maxsolomon]

111. LOL, Elaine Chao.

Homonym, though!

[BumRushDaShow]

113. But that is exactly how I meant it!

(she went bye bye right after Jan. 6)

[maxsolomon]

116. I always look to that resignation as evidence of how McConnell really feels about *.

His craven "preserve GQP power at all costs" strategy prevented him from issuing anything but the mildest reproach.

It's clear he wants * put out to pasture, though.

[BumRushDaShow]

119. Oh you KNOW

he was involved in that decision. He didn't want to be dirtied by this because he had his own plans as well as the means and methods tn subvert democracy "from within".

[sinkingfeeling]

79. Jamie is pissed.

[BumRushDaShow]

80. Rasking describing how the country from back as far as Lincoln

rejected "insurrection".

[crickets]

81. Jamie talking about the duty of the president to uphold the law and

the disqualification from office for anyone supporting insurrection.

[BumRushDaShow]

82. Raskin done. Bennie Thompson speaking directly to the officers in the chamber

and summarizing how the fault is is on 45.

[livetohike]

83. Closing statement from Chairman Thompson. n/t

[BumRushDaShow]

84. Thompson. Need to hear from (45) Must be held accountable

[crickets]

85. Bennie Thompson speaking now, laying full responsibility for Jan 6 on tfg.

Now saying that the Committee wants to be fair and thorough, and wishes to hear personally from tfg. He must show accountability, and his testimony is required. Subpoena of a former president is weighty, but the stakes are so high that the motion should be made and be made publicly.

Subpoena is read aloud.

[BumRushDaShow]

86. Plan to seek 45's testimony

there is precedent.

[Lars39]

87. Obligation to seek Donald Trump's testimony!

[BumRushDaShow]

88. Cheney sending motion to desk for subpoena of 45.

[livetohike]

89. Liz Cheney submitting motion to subpoena Trump. n/t

[FalloutShelter]

90. Here comes the VOTE

[SheltieLover]

91. Yes! Calling for tfg to testify!

I'll bet the catsup is hitting the walls.

[Xavier Breath]

93. No worries, I'm sure he'll lick it off later.

[RocRizzo55]

92. Lets see him weasel himself out of this.

I don't think that he can.

[crickets]

94. Cheney saying that there is clear evidence of criminal activity.

Testimony under oath from tfg is required. (Sounds like they feel this is the effort that must be made before any referral to DOJ?) Also required because so many of the big players refused to comment.

Showing Stone, Flynn, Eastman, Clark all pleading the fifth.

[livetohike]

95. Showing clips of Trump associates pleading the Fifth. n/t

[Lars39]

96. Liz Cheney showing all of Trump's goons stating, "the fifth"

[calimary]

135. Is anybody else as bothered as I am that some of these cocky entitled SOBs

are so damn smug that they don’t even have the decency to answer with a simple sentence?

Just “fifth.” And “fifth” again. And again and again.

Gee, sorry we’re all inconveniencing you and taking up your precious time with this silly bother.

Roger Stone was an exception. Probably to appear courteous with a side of pompous.

[BumRushDaShow]

97. Cheney ticking off all kinds of people refusing to testify

including taking the 5th with respect to what transpired leading up to January 6.

[asiliveandbreathe]

98. Dog Day Afternoon.donnieboy...loser..even loses at SCOTUS

Here we go..

[BumRushDaShow]

99. *****VOTING ON RESOLUTION*****

Voice vote - "ayes" have it.

Cheney requested a recorded vote.

Vote in process.

[BumRushDaShow]

100. ****9 AYES - 0 NOs*****

Agreed to for issuing subpoena.

[Lars39]

102. What a day!

[Marthe48]

104. Courage

Patriotism
Upholding the law

[llmart]

108. I just jumped out of my chair and said "YES" as loud as I could.

Just an involuntary action on my part. This is historic.

I hope the Orange One has a conniption and/or "episode" today.

[BumRushDaShow]

128. "I just jumped out of my chair and said "YES" as loud as I could."

Did you have any snoozing critters around who suddenly got blown through the ceiling after that????

(I see so many stories from DUers about sudden loud exclamations that send their their little house mates flying )

[llmart]

132. No, sadly I don't.

I had the most wonderful dog for many years, but she got old and I had to have her put down about two years ago. But, I have been known to do that when she was alive and it would startle the heck out of her.

[BumRushDaShow]

133. Sorry to hear about your pup

But then you would know what I'm talking about!!!

[BumRushDaShow]

101. ****COMMITTEE HAS NOW ADJOURNED FOR THE DAY****

[crickets]

103. I wish the news channels hadn't scooped the subpoena.

The resolution and vote were a powerful moment.

[livetohike]

105. A really bad day for Donald J. Trump. Going to get worse. N/t

[asiliveandbreathe]

109. Meidas Touch..described it as a CHENEY DRONE strike..

[BumRushDaShow]

110. LOL

Am surprised it wasn't an "extraordinary rendition".

[livetohike]

123. LOL n/t

[SheltieLover]

106. MT: Cheney drone strike

Texas Paul saying he was laughing so hard he had tears.

[electric_blue68]

121. OMG - I MISSED It! Bah! (video call, then stuff was dropped to off to me, had to go get) Wow!

Joy, Rachel, Lawrence et al will be jumping tonight!

[BumRushDaShow]

122. THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR ATTENDING THIS DU WATCHFEST!!

[livetohike]

124. Thanks for hosting! n/t