Wow -Miles Taylor on Nicolle Wallace -

[cilla4progress]

Tfg wanted death on 1/6. Legislators. So he could invoke insurrection act.

Taylor was tfg's DHS COS.

[Irish_Dem]

1. Of course he did. That was the plan all along.

[honest.abe]

2. More details please.. how would that have worked out for his benefit?

Thanks

[cilla4progress]

3. Invoking

the Insurrection Act?

[brush]

4. He could then because of a death, declare martial law...

with justification. The entire EC vote counting confirmation would've then been shutdown while he remained president for who knows how long it would take to sort things out.

And that would be unknown territory without any guidance as to how to resolve it. And repubs would get up to their shenanigans to keep trump in power.

[honest.abe]

5. Got it. Thanks!

[Fiendish Thingy]

6. He wouldn't have remained president after 1/20/21

If martial law prevented congress from certifying the EV’s past January 20, Pelosi would have been sworn in as acting President, and Trump couldn’t have legally stopped it.

[tishaLA]

9. Getting Speaker Pelosi and Pence was part of the plan

and next in line of succession would then be Pompeo as Sec of State IIRC

[Fiendish Thingy]

13. Nope, speaker pro tem of the senate- Chuck Grassley

The senate hadn’t settled their differences over the 50/50 rules as of 1/20, so technically republicans were still in control and Grassley, as the most senior member, was next in line after Pelosi.

[PortTack]

10. Yes

Martial law is declared when law enforcement does not have control of a situation, or if there is no working judiciary.

And yes, speaker Pelosi would’ve become president on 1/20.

[brush]

15. Theorectically. But do you trust the present-day...

republican party to go along with the Constitution after all their efforts to subvert it and keep trump in power? On Jan. 20th they were all of a sudden going to say, "Oh never mind. We didn't mean it?"

[Fiendish Thingy]

16. I expected Gen. Milley to follow his oath

Milley would have recognized whoever was in the line of succession as the CIC, and that would be that.

Trump and any Rogue SS agents could cosplay as if he were still president, at least until Federal agents came to remove him from the WH.

[brush]

18. The hearing today revealed that some SS and FBi agents...

were siding with insurrectionists, but hopefully what you described would've happened.

[bottomofthehill]

19. If Government leaders were being taken out, the insurrection act would be a legal order.

N/t

[Fiendish Thingy]

22. The insurrection act doesn't suspend the Constitution. Nt

[bottomofthehill]

23. I never said it did.

Trump tries to solve todays problems today, and whatever problems he causes today, he worries about tomorrow. Any delay was a good delay for him as he was trying to figure out a way to steal the election.

[bottomofthehill]

7. It is exactly what he wanted.

The next 3 people in line to the presidency, the VP, the Speaker and the President of the Senate were all in the Capitol. The death of any or all would have given him the authority under the insurrection act to call up not only the national guard, but also the active military. He was looking to find a way to stay in power and re-run the election under the supervision of the military

[PortTack]

11. He wouldn't have been able to use the military. General Milley made sure his servicemen knew

The difference between an illegal order and staying loyal to the constitution.

Any military personnel that would have gone along with this would have found himself in Leavenworth for sedition, if not treason

[Fiendish Thingy]

14. He still wouldn't have stayed in power.

If the mob killed Pence, Pelosi and Grassley, then Pompeo would be next in line.

[bottomofthehill]

17. Not really, the house could elect an new Speaker, The Senate would have a new President pro temp

It would not go directly to Secretary of State as Trump would have remained president until Jan 20

[Hortensis]

8. A lot of people, including DVE and trumpist insiders, have said

tRump would use the excuse of "antifa" attacking to invoke and bring in the military to help seize the government.

Some silent heroes are the leaders and other influencers who helped foil this part of the coup plot by persuading those who wanted to counterprotest tRump's "rally" to stay away. Another huge blow to the coup plotters is that there's no real confusion among the people about who was there that day saving what from whom.

[Kid Berwyn]

12. Best way to predict the future...

…is to make it happen.

Traitors almost did.

[Hamlette]

20. this actually makes sense

why do a riot in congress? How does it help trump if the vote is delayed? If a few top dogs die and the rioters occupy the building, he could declare martial law. I don't think he thought through the next step however.

Par for the course with our transactional former president.

[bottomofthehill]

21. Trump has no long game. He lives to win the day, the. The next, then the next

That is why his administration was so fucked up.

[Snackshack]

24. I have no doubt that

This person is telling the truth and I believe it was more then “wanted” that there was coordination and pre-meditation to make it happen. Rep. Boebert sent out at least one txt that day that said-

“The Speaker has been moved from the chamber.”

And it has been reported that DT stood in front of a tv watching the assault for hours and did nothing to end it or send reinforcements. Luckily there some good people in the USCP that protected the individual officials and managed slow down the assault long enough so actions could be taken to stop it.

[moondust]

25. Might help to know

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the history of TFG and others around him having discussions about the Insurrection Act and how it works. Doubtful that TFG knew anything about it before 2019-20. Who told him about it? Roger Stone? Flynn?

Stone told Alex Jones on September 10, 2020, that Trump should consider invoking the Insurrection Act.