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Fri Oct 14, 2022, 04:03 PM

barbtries (27,087 posts)

Latest mass shooting happened close to me.

I lived in Raleigh from 2007 to 2016; now I live in Durham.

So WTF happened? All I have learned is that a 15-year-old white kid got a gun and started killing people. He is unnamed and in critical condition, somehow.

I just tried to watch a news conference and it simply enraged me. thoughts and prayers, Raleigh Strong, blah blah blah...I didn't watch it all because it frustrated me too much.

Aren't press conferences held to inform the public about events that are important to them? Instead they turn it into a pep rally?? For as long as I watched, I can say that not one of the speakers mentioned the glaring fact that A 15-YEAR-OLD was holding a deadly weapon in a public place - how did he get it? What kind of gun was it? Who is he? All i know about him is he's a white boy in camos killing people.

I want more. I want to know where he got the gun. I want to know if it was an assault weapon with no other function but to kill humans. I want to know how he came to be in critical condition.

I hurt for the victims and their families. I am beyond pissed at this culture, this sick, sick, culture, that we are all being forced to live in. Don't tell me how to feel. Just fucking tell me what happened and come as close as you can to WHY, because I'm thinking this kid may have been brainwashed by right wing and/or incel media. I'm also wondering how close he may be to the PTB, because of his continued anonymity.

I'll have to check out twitter and reddit. Maybe I'll get some answers there. seriously, the News and Observer and the people running that press conference did not provide them.

/rant off

ETA: Reddit did give me the shooter's name and also the news that the 16-year-old who was killed was his brother. so, go reddit.

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17 replies	Author	Time	Post
Latest mass shooting happened close to me. (Original post)	barbtries	Oct 2022	OP
Could be a kid from the Wealth class?	pwb	Oct 2022	#1
i just edited my post	barbtries	Oct 2022	#2
Law and Crime reported the names this morning.	Bev54	Oct 2022	#4
ahh	barbtries	Oct 2022	#7
Most of these press conferences seem to be treated like award shows	Bev54	Oct 2022	#3
yeah, that too!	barbtries	Oct 2022	#5
+1 - Definitely	TheProle	Oct 2022	#6
Yeah, this fad of putting the word strong after the name of a city/town	tanyev	Oct 2022	#8
I know. I hate that too.	llmart	Oct 2022	#15
I noticed that too	LeftInTX	Oct 2022	#9
He is 15. And in critical condition.	Treefrog	Oct 2022	#12
It happened a few years ago near me so here is what will happen..	GreenWave	Oct 2022	#10
i would expect all that.	barbtries	Oct 2022	#11
To be fair, the mayor was clearly shaken. She made a point	Treefrog	Oct 2022	#13
i saw that part	barbtries	Oct 2022	#14
She did say that.	Treefrog	Oct 2022	#17
kick	CatWoman	Oct 2022	#16

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Fri Oct 14, 2022, 04:07 PM

pwb (9,423 posts)

1. Could be a kid from the Wealth class?

Like TFG. Money buys silence today.

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Fri Oct 14, 2022, 04:12 PM

barbtries (27,087 posts)

2. i just edited my post

found out his name and that one of his victims was his 16-year-old brother...haven't learned much more yet

https://www.wral.com/a-shooting-spree-an-hours-long-search-and-a-neighborhood-on-edge-5-killed-two-injured-in-east-raleigh/20520757/

but yeah, that was my thought. Media these days does seem to really know who butters their bread if you know what I mean.

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Fri Oct 14, 2022, 04:16 PM

Bev54 (7,410 posts)

4. Law and Crime reported the names this morning.

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Fri Oct 14, 2022, 04:37 PM

barbtries (27,087 posts)

7. ahh

silly me I thought I could get the information from the local news source. Reddit has been stellar, they have users listening to police radios and everything.

I will try to keep in touch with this story because I have a strong feeling that this may have been a troubled kid radicalized online. I don't know though. Maybe he accidentally killed his brother and decided to go finish a bunch more before himself. He did shoot himself in the head and my guess is he will either die or be permanently incapacitated.

Also only learned that it was a "long rifle" - I don't know enough about guns to know if it was an AR-15 or something along those lines. I need to have it spelled out for me.

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Fri Oct 14, 2022, 04:15 PM

Bev54 (7,410 posts)

3. Most of these press conferences seem to be treated like award shows

where everyone gets to take a turn at the mic, whether they have any important information or not, but rather to thank everyone else, no matter what.

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Fri Oct 14, 2022, 04:18 PM

barbtries (27,087 posts)

5. yeah, that too!

another sick aspect of life in the USA is that "public" servants never stop campaigning.

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Fri Oct 14, 2022, 04:19 PM

TheProle (1,233 posts)

6. +1 - Definitely

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Fri Oct 14, 2022, 05:00 PM

tanyev (39,148 posts)

8. Yeah, this fad of putting the word strong after the name of a city/town

that’s gone through something is really annoying. Just saying “My Town Strong!” over and over fixes nothing. It’s not a magic incantation.

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Fri Oct 14, 2022, 08:26 PM

llmart (14,103 posts)

15. I know. I hate that too.

I live near the Oxford high school shooting. They had a piece on our local news tonight interviewing the county sheriff who is always campaigning for something. They asked him how many of these incidents happen with threats of shootings and how often. His response was "every day". How sick of a country do we live in where kids can make threats (I don't care if they're valid threats or not) that they're going to shoot up the school?

In my opinion, this gun fetish culture we now live in should be our #1 priority and issue. Stop pandering to the right wing Republicans and their stupid "Democrats will take your guns away" crapola.

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Fri Oct 14, 2022, 05:19 PM

LeftInTX (21,643 posts)

9. I noticed that too

Shooter's name has not been released.

People at least want answers. Who was he? Did people know him? Why all the silence? Why are they not releasing his name?

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Fri Oct 14, 2022, 07:46 PM

Treefrog (4,170 posts)

12. He is 15. And in critical condition.

A murderer, yes, but authorities have to tread carefully with those variables.

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Fri Oct 14, 2022, 05:42 PM

GreenWave (2,728 posts)

10. It happened a few years ago near me so here is what will happen..

And is a blueprint ad nauseum from many other communities:

#1. Municipal authorities will praise the brave responders (even if time to respond was long)
#2. They will offer prayers and condolescences to the loved ones of the deceased.
#3. They will say this mass shooting does not occur in our area.
#4. Fill in the blank with community name Strong! Signs to that effect spring up.
#5. Speeches about how strong we are and promises to do more to prevent it.
#6. NRA will schedule a gun show near the tragedy.

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Fri Oct 14, 2022, 06:05 PM

barbtries (27,087 posts)

11. i would expect all that.

driving through NC billboards for gun shows are already very common. disgusting.

this mass shooting - i don't know that it's getting any airplay at all across the country. after all, only 5 innocent people were killed.

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Fri Oct 14, 2022, 07:48 PM

Treefrog (4,170 posts)

13. To be fair, the mayor was clearly shaken. She made a point

of speaking about gun violence.

That was last night; perhaps you missed it.

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Fri Oct 14, 2022, 08:11 PM

barbtries (27,087 posts)

14. i saw that part

but felt it was weak. We have a problem with guns. Actual guns - so much violence that could never have happened if we did not have this problem with guns

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Sat Oct 15, 2022, 04:14 PM

Treefrog (4,170 posts)

17. She did say that.

She spoke about gun violence.

As to information, the shooter is a minor. This is going to take some time. Never mind that their other so was a victim too.

This is tragic, but I'm not knocking the authorities here just yet.

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Sat Oct 15, 2022, 02:59 PM

CatWoman (78,155 posts)

16. kick

something is wrong with our kids

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