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(14,923 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(145,415 posts)Among Jews it is no secret as to why many right-wing religious groups support Israel
Link to tweet
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/02/apocalypse-another-disturbing-reason-behind-right-wings-pro-israel-obsession/
These are the folks who believe that there will be a millennium in the future, a golden age, where Christ reigns on Earth, [and] they believe that before Christ will return, there will be a tribulation where Christ defeats evil, she said. There will be natural disasters and wars, and perhaps an Antichrist, as the book of Revelations notes. Then at the end of that period, the people of the Mosaic covenant, including the Jews, will convert. Then after their conversion, the great millennium starts.
She continued: You have this group of people looking around for signs of the end time, and in the 20th century when Israel was founded, this was seen as a major sign. This was electrifying for that community because the gathering of all the Jews in exile to the Holy Land is a prerequisite for all of these events unfolding. So for the subset of evangelicals in the 20th century, support for Israel became a really, really important political position.
And as evangelical Christianity grew into a central part of the GOPs coalition, pro-Israel policies became cemented in the partys ideology.
The alliance between the evangelicals and pro-Israeli Jews, though, is a peculiar partnership. The Christians enter into the bargain with the assumption that, when they reach their goal of the apocalypse, any Jews will either become Christians or go to hell. But their pro-Israel allies dont seem to mind this much, perhaps because they dont believe this version of the apocalypse will ever actually come to be and as long as it is just a fantasy, their interests and those of evangelicals remain aligned.
Jews and supporters of Israel are aware of the reason why these religious nut jobs are supporting Israel. Israel needs all of the help it can get and so plays on and uses these religious nut jobs.
Behind the Aegis
(53,965 posts)We have known for a LONG fucking time why the far-right, but not too far-right, support Israel and it isn't because of the Jews, they, like others, despise Jews and Jews being in Israel, except the evangelicals, who "need" us there for their end-of-world fantasies. All the haters of Israel, including the evangelicals with their false support, are going to continue to be disappointed by Israel's continued existence and its massive Jewish population. One Jewish state is one too many for more than a few.
sprinkleeninow
(20,253 posts)Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)Someone botched that.
I'd had discussions with some right leaning Zionist Jews who have embraced Evangelical support and asked them quite bluntly if they don't understand that these people believe Jews go into the fire in the end time unless they repent and embrace Jesus as their Lord and savior?
The response is typically uncomfortable. But it needs to be said.
Aussie105
(5,412 posts)The oldest region on record, Zoroastrianism, hailing back from the 6th century BC and still has some following in different parts of the world, believed there is a cyclic growth and destruction every 3,000 years.
Just your basic Judgement Day thinking, really.
Number 12 down the list:
https://world-religions.info/zoroastrianism-beliefs/#:~:text=Zoroastrians%20believe%20that%20at%20the%20end
Some of the beliefs aren't too bad though.
dalton99a
(81,539 posts)Warpy
(111,300 posts)to their own dogma, let alone read their own damned book.
They especially don't realize Revelations is a fever dream about the destruction of Rome.
AndyS
(14,559 posts)Aussie105
(5,412 posts)The tone of her voice, the delivery on video, the dress-up she plays when in character.
The sharp cynical sarcasm Deven Green projects in the Betty Bowers character plucks at my heart strings!
(Am I weird?)
Quixote1818
(28,951 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(145,415 posts)TFG's feelings were hurt when 75% of American Jews voted for Joe Biden
Link to tweet
https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-jews-2658460458/
"Well, and again, I mean, even the fine line, Jews need to basically 'get their act together before it's too late,' is obviously deeply disturbing because it's not sending a dog whistle -- it's an out and out threat," Scarborough interjected.
"The thing is, there were some observers that said, as always, it's not about Jews in Israel, it's not about Jews in America, it's always about Donald Trump," he continued. "He's still smarting by the fact that over three out of four Jews in America voted for Joe Biden, so there are people close to him that suggest that still rankles him that he got beaten so badly among Jewish voters in America."
He then added, "But to do that, and say basically they better get their act together before it's too late, sounds ominous. It sounds ominous like saying that [Senate Minority Leader] Mitch McConnell has a quote 'death wish'."