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fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 10:49 AM Oct 2022

So let me get this straight, the polls are showing voters are most concerned about inflation.

The majority of people believe voting Republican is going to fix that? Ignore the fact the Republicans blocked Biden from doing things that could have helped with inflation. Ignore the fact the Republicans are taking their rights away. Ignore the fact the Republican Party is trying to end our democracy. Just focus on inflation and blame the Democrats? If this is true, the American people will pay a heavy price for their ignorance and foolishness.


I do not trust the polls, I will wait for the election results. I still believe we can hold the Senate. Holding the House was always going to be tough, but I thought we had a chance because of how corrupt the Republican Party has become. If the American people vote to put the Republicans in charge of the Senate and the House. The people will pay a heavy price for their ignorance and foolishness.

How many times do you have to punch an American in the face before they wake up and say enough. This election is going to tell us a lot about the American people.

Our Democracy depends on the American people NOT walking, talking and voting with their heads up their ass.

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So let me get this straight, the polls are showing voters are most concerned about inflation. (Original Post) fightforfreedom Oct 2022 OP
I don't believe it. Demsrule86 Oct 2022 #1
me neither... agingdem Oct 2022 #7
New York Times True Blue American Oct 2022 #13
Specify the targeted demographic and the skewed questions.... brooklynite Oct 2022 #22
+1, the polling in the US is **HORRIBLE** no other G8 country puts up with this level of bad uponit7771 Oct 2022 #28
The stupid runs deep scarletlib Oct 2022 #2
Dem messaging is nonexistent. No ATeam shows up on networks blm Oct 2022 #3
Exactly. We need an Early Warning System to detect attacks, a War Room to coordinate strategy, Midnight Writer Oct 2022 #34
Talking heads always have an agenda - always. walkingman Oct 2022 #4
When bringing up inflation 24/7 media almost always fails to mention that wiggs Oct 2022 #5
Never underestimate the stupidity of the American public JohnSJ Oct 2022 #6
Polls... BlueIdaho Oct 2022 #8
The Buck Stops Here Baggies Oct 2022 #9
Daily report card on whom? gab13by13 Oct 2022 #10
Who do you think? Baggies Oct 2022 #16
Most Americans I encounter have their head up their ass and are totally clueless. We are RKP5637 Oct 2022 #11
It's hard to grasp the dynamics when the media in US is so polarized Claustrum Oct 2022 #21
It is really incredible!!! I often go to CNN international and BBC to understand what RKP5637 Oct 2022 #32
Moderators, if this is the case please ask louis-t Oct 2022 #12
EXACTLY! bluestarone Oct 2022 #14
EXACTLY what I've been saying! ElementaryPenguin Oct 2022 #37
The election depends on turn out Kaleva Oct 2022 #15
Economic adversity is temporary. Voting for Republicans and losing one's freedom is permanent. Efilroft Sul Oct 2022 #17
I vote for less corruption always have always will? Brainfodder Oct 2022 #18
I don't need polls BannonsLiver Oct 2022 #19
Nothing new about that: EX500rider Oct 2022 #26
I think you might have answered your own question. SlimJimmy Oct 2022 #20
Focus on the issue voters care about the most? Didn't see that coming... brooklynite Oct 2022 #23
Voters take their pocketbooks into the booth Sympthsical Oct 2022 #24
Inflation, gas prices, and bad stocks are certainly legitimate issues to worry about Polybius Oct 2022 #25
The GQP is stoking resentment at people who got checks. maxsolomon Oct 2022 #27
I take those polls with a grain of salt and also force myself to consider r/o SoBlueInFL Oct 2022 #29
People hear about climate change, Ukraine, and abortions, Dysfunctional Oct 2022 #30
Biden passed the Inflation Reduction Act just a few months ago fescuerescue Oct 2022 #31
Americans and delayed gratification don't seem to go together. SoBlueInFL Oct 2022 #33
About half the country has it's head up it's ass. GoodRaisin Oct 2022 #35
They all showed up for this post UnderThisLaw Oct 2022 #36

agingdem

(7,850 posts)
7. me neither...
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 11:04 AM
Oct 2022

this election is "local"...state by state...this isn't really about Joe Biden...this is a referendum on Trump and his election denying moronic buffoons..so the NYT can poll a targeted demographic with skewed questions from now until the election...minds are made up

brooklynite

(94,657 posts)
22. Specify the targeted demographic and the skewed questions....
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 12:44 PM
Oct 2022

Preferably you have actual data rather than "we know they would" assertions.

(actual questions and methodology here: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/10/17/upshot/times-siena-poll-likely-voters-crosstabs.html)

blm

(113,078 posts)
3. Dem messaging is nonexistent. No ATeam shows up on networks
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 10:57 AM
Oct 2022

to blanket the airwaves with strong rebuttals to the Republican narrative.

Why not?

Midnight Writer

(21,771 posts)
34. Exactly. We need an Early Warning System to detect attacks, a War Room to coordinate strategy,
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 03:29 PM
Oct 2022

and an A-Team to saturate media, both legacy and social, with the truth.

walkingman

(7,641 posts)
4. Talking heads always have an agenda - always.
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 10:58 AM
Oct 2022

"believe nothing of what you hear, and only half of what you see"

IMO, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the track record of the GOP.

wiggs

(7,814 posts)
5. When bringing up inflation 24/7 media almost always fails to mention that
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 11:02 AM
Oct 2022

inflation is global, due mostly to forces outside POTUS control, takes a while to turn around, and that corporate profits are historically high.

Fine to mention inflation...but without context it's almost as if they are forcing blame onto someone intentionally and unjustly.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
8. Polls...
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 11:05 AM
Oct 2022

We don’t need no stinkin’ polls. Just walk down the isle at your local friendly grocery store. As for the “GQP Cure” it’s likely to kill the patients in the process.

Baggies

(503 posts)
9. The Buck Stops Here
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 11:10 AM
Oct 2022

Inflation is the major issue. And I'm not seeing voters saying the Republicans will make it stop, but rather they hope to keep the Democrats from doing any more damage.

As someone mentioned already, the Democratic Party has done little to shift that narrative. But truly, that would be a tough one to shift. The price of gas and the price of food is a daily report card.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
11. Most Americans I encounter have their head up their ass and are totally clueless. We are
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 11:35 AM
Oct 2022

in the era of "US Stupid Population" in the land of Idiocracy. They just can't seem to grasp the dynamics of what is going on.

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
21. It's hard to grasp the dynamics when the media in US is so polarized
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 12:28 PM
Oct 2022

that you can't get any real news without bias in it (both to the left and to the right). I am an immigrant and it always surprises me when I listen/watch to foreign news (even CNN international does a much better job at it). You get real news without the sides, and you realize a lot of items that are politicized here in the US (like climate change, taxes, governmental assisted healthcare, etc) are largely accepted in most countries. Both the left and the right in those countries accept those as facts. They differ at how much money they are willing to throw at those problems.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
32. It is really incredible!!! I often go to CNN international and BBC to understand what
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 01:25 PM
Oct 2022

is going on. It's an extremely unhealthy situation for the future of the US.

louis-t

(23,296 posts)
12. Moderators, if this is the case please ask
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 11:36 AM
Oct 2022

as a debate question to repugs "What is your plan to control inflation?" They will have no answer except 'more tax breaks for billionaires'.

bluestarone

(17,002 posts)
14. EXACTLY!
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 11:43 AM
Oct 2022

I honestly believe this economy problem starts with the crazy RETHUGLICONS in congress! They are fighting EVERYTHING us Dems are trying to do! IF we had 100% control of both houses today, (i mean 100% not counting the 2 traitor DEMS) we WOULD NOT be where we are today! THIS needs to be screamed high and low everyday until this election is over! Goddam people better wake up in this country!

ElementaryPenguin

(7,800 posts)
37. EXACTLY what I've been saying!
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 03:58 PM
Oct 2022

Not only do the Repukes (who no longer even attempt to govern) have no solution at all for inflation - it is a global problem which is far worse in Europe.

Kaleva

(36,318 posts)
15. The election depends on turn out
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 11:49 AM
Oct 2022

The bases of both sides will vote regardless of the issues. What is needed is that we get enough voters, the ones who sometimes don't vote but who generally vote D when they do, to show up and cast their ballots.

Efilroft Sul

(3,581 posts)
17. Economic adversity is temporary. Voting for Republicans and losing one's freedom is permanent.
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 12:06 PM
Oct 2022

If older white women who enjoyed reproductive rights pull up the ladder on their younger daughters, sisters, and nieces — and give control of Congress over to the Republicans — it will be the doom of us all.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
18. I vote for less corruption always have always will?
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 12:10 PM
Oct 2022

I don't want my govt to be corrupt, but it clearly is?

Proof enough for me: Lobbying is a thing. Campaign contributions are a thing. Citizens United Ruling still not struck down.


BannonsLiver

(16,411 posts)
19. I don't need polls
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 12:17 PM
Oct 2022

To tell me that if they have access to cheap gas, groceries and chain restaurants, preferably those with a trough, Americans will tolerate or accept ANYTHING.

Let me repeat: ANYTHING

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
26. Nothing new about that:
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 01:07 PM
Oct 2022
The phrase “bread and circuses” hails from a line in Satire X, a poem by Roman poet Juvenal, who was writing at around 100 AD. "That used to grant power, high office, the legions, everything, Curtails its desires, and reveals its anxiety for two things only, Bread and circuses."

SlimJimmy

(3,180 posts)
20. I think you might have answered your own question.
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 12:21 PM
Oct 2022

This is the narrative that the repukes have using for at least a year now. And guess what?, it seems to be working to some extent.

Just focus on inflation and blame the Democrats? If this is true, the American people will pay a heavy price for their ignorance and foolishness.

Sympthsical

(9,086 posts)
24. Voters take their pocketbooks into the booth
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 12:56 PM
Oct 2022

Why are people acting all surprised by this?

For many voters - the ones not online consuming political content, Twitter, and cable news all day - the equation is simple. Does my life feel better with the current people in charge?

Their votes will follow how they answer that question.

It has always been this way.

Polybius

(15,462 posts)
25. Inflation, gas prices, and bad stocks are certainly legitimate issues to worry about
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 01:06 PM
Oct 2022

I just don't blame Biden for any of it.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
27. The GQP is stoking resentment at people who got checks.
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 01:13 PM
Oct 2022

Never mind the people who got checks are your kids and grandkids and not layabouts, it wasn't fair to YOU, you hard working Real American, and it's clearly the singular cause of 'Flation.

my only regret about the program is that Kyle Rittenhouse used his check to buy an MSSA. Should have put a restriction in there - you can't waste this on a firearm.

SoBlueInFL

(191 posts)
29. I take those polls with a grain of salt and also force myself to consider r/o
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 01:18 PM
Oct 2022

the bell curve for IQ. Almost half of people are quite possibly not capable of the complex reasoning needed to make good voting choices. It explains a lot and utterly terrifies me.

 

Dysfunctional

(452 posts)
30. People hear about climate change, Ukraine, and abortions,
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 01:24 PM
Oct 2022

but the price of groceries they see at least once a week. That is what they remember when they go to vote.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
31. Biden passed the Inflation Reduction Act just a few months ago
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 01:24 PM
Oct 2022

Why aren't voters giving that fix time to work?

GoodRaisin

(8,926 posts)
35. About half the country has it's head up it's ass.
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 03:49 PM
Oct 2022

Yeah, some actually believe Rs will fix it, even though Rs have no plan that will fix inflation. Others don’t care if it’s fixed or not. They just vote for whoever the R is and go back to sleep for 2 more years. Unfortunate, but that’s the state of intelligence in American R voters, when it comes to inflation.

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