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sarcasmo

(23,968 posts)
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 01:13 PM Oct 2022

"Fiona Hill: Elon Musk is transmitting a message for Putin."




Snip: "It’s very clear that Elon Musk is transmitting a message for Putin. There was a conference in Aspen in late September when Musk offered a version of what was in his tweet — including the recognition of Crimea as Russian."



Snip: “Putin plays the egos of big men, gives them a sense that they can play a role. But in reality, they’re just direct transmitters of messages from Vladimir Putin.”




https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/10/17/fiona-hill-putin-war-00061894
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"Fiona Hill: Elon Musk is transmitting a message for Putin." (Original Post) sarcasmo Oct 2022 OP
The rich billionaire blue-wave Oct 2022 #1
Self Importance. Caliman73 Oct 2022 #3
Hill says this is Putin SOP. He tried to use her to "transmit" his messages Hortensis Oct 2022 #2
KnR. n/t iluvtennis Oct 2022 #4
I really like Fiona Hill from the first time I became aware of her (back when Zelensky was in liberalla Oct 2022 #5
Another "useful idiot'? Evolve Dammit Oct 2022 #6
"I'll have my oligarchs talk to their oligarchs." KGB LtCol Putin has a lifetime of manipulating peo Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2022 #7

blue-wave

(4,352 posts)
1. The rich billionaire
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 01:34 PM
Oct 2022

reduced to a messenger for the KGB/FSB. Go figure. How can people be so damned gullible?

Caliman73

(11,736 posts)
3. Self Importance.
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 01:58 PM
Oct 2022

As Hill said, Putin can manipulate Musk using Musk's own arrogance and sense of self importance. Musk sees himself as a "world savior" so Putin can play him easily by getting Musk to believe that only Musk can give such an important message.

Same way that Putin manipulated Trump by stroking Trump's fragile ego but inflated sense of self. Powerful but weak men are typically easy to corrupt. You just have to make them feel important and they will do what you want them to.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
2. Hill says this is Putin SOP. He tried to use her to "transmit" his messages
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 01:48 PM
Oct 2022

when she was in government, sending "intermediaries including all kinds of businesspeople."

It'd be extremely easy to recognize such a common pattern, merely underlined by Musk's relaying the issue of Crimea's water supply, presumably outside his sphere, but not Putin's.

Wonder if he knew so baldly that he was being used, or had dressed it up too well in his mind. Everyone wants "a piece of" him, of course.

liberalla

(9,246 posts)
5. I really like Fiona Hill from the first time I became aware of her (back when Zelensky was in
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 03:28 PM
Oct 2022

the Oval with dipshit). She is very astute.

And Musk is just the opposite.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
7. "I'll have my oligarchs talk to their oligarchs." KGB LtCol Putin has a lifetime of manipulating peo
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 04:02 PM
Oct 2022

Manipulating people is what Putin does best. East Germany, with pervasive Stazi, was his training ground. Post-Soviet era, it's how he rose to power.

Oligarchs have swollen egos, which makes them manipulable. Orange wanna-be oligarchs even more swollen.

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