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brooklynite

(94,657 posts)
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 02:09 PM Oct 2022

Forecast for US Recession Within Year Hits 100% in Blow to Biden

A US recession is effectively certain in the next 12 months in new Bloomberg Economics model projections, a blow to President Joe Biden’s economic messaging ahead of the November midterms.

The latest recession probability models by Bloomberg economists Anna Wong and Eliza Winger forecast a higher recession probability across all timeframes, with the 12-month estimate of a downturn by October 2023 hitting 100%, up from 65% for the comparable period in the previous update.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-17/forecast-for-us-recession-within-year-hits-100-in-blow-to-biden?leadSource=uverify%20wall#xj4y7vzkg
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Forecast for US Recession Within Year Hits 100% in Blow to Biden (Original Post) brooklynite Oct 2022 OP
LOL: Since it's not here yet they're "projecting" ... as Republicans do. live love laugh Oct 2022 #1
Michael Bloomberg is a pro-Biden Democrat... brooklynite Oct 2022 #9
Bloomberg: Republican/ Independent/ Democrat live love laugh Oct 2022 #14
The forecast isn't intended to be "pro-anyone". It is company's business analysis. brooklynite Oct 2022 #15
As a "blow" it's definitely not "pro". live love laugh Oct 2022 #16
He hates Biden. Demsrule86 Oct 2022 #24
And Biden added his endorsement to the 2020 convention because... brooklynite Oct 2022 #25
We shall see. I don't think this is normal...first of all if we a recession it will be because of Demsrule86 Oct 2022 #2
What happens to T-Bill yields in a recession? HUAJIAO Oct 2022 #7
A 100%? Yeah, right. Awful damn brave to put a 100% number on this, eh? SWBTATTReg Oct 2022 #3
Is anything like this Mad_Machine76 Oct 2022 #8
Isn't a recession coming because of the Fed's recent actions? Elessar Zappa Oct 2022 #4
Uh huh Takket Oct 2022 #5
If people know this is coming Mad_Machine76 Oct 2022 #6
It's not all of a sudden Sympthsical Oct 2022 #10
I think you miss their point. cilla4progress Oct 2022 #13
Confirmation bias Sympthsical Oct 2022 #17
And I just checked WaPo's headlines. (2nd reply) Sympthsical Oct 2022 #18
Those are headlines. cilla4progress Oct 2022 #19
Yes, I read the articles Sympthsical Oct 2022 #21
You say po-tah-to I say po-tay-to - cilla4progress Oct 2022 #26
I am noticing this cilla4progress Oct 2022 #11
The Fed is actively working to create a recession Bettie Oct 2022 #12
I thought the coming recession was common knowledge? ismnotwasm Oct 2022 #20
It's cilla4progress Oct 2022 #27
Why isn't Bloomberg talking about how Chump plundered the U.S. Treasury like a drunken sailor FakeNoose Oct 2022 #22
We're already IN a recession... I do agree that 23 will be worse. WarGamer Oct 2022 #23

brooklynite

(94,657 posts)
9. Michael Bloomberg is a pro-Biden Democrat...
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 02:19 PM
Oct 2022

...and the quality of his company's economic analysis is why he's a billionaire today.

live love laugh

(13,123 posts)
14. Bloomberg: Republican/ Independent/ Democrat
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 02:28 PM
Oct 2022

He’s been all three.

This projection seems far from pro-Biden.

brooklynite

(94,657 posts)
15. The forecast isn't intended to be "pro-anyone". It is company's business analysis.
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 02:30 PM
Oct 2022

Biden YouTube site: Mike Bloomberg endorsement speech.

Demsrule86

(68,620 posts)
2. We shall see. I don't think this is normal...first of all if we a recession it will be because of
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 02:15 PM
Oct 2022

the misguided Fed policies over raising interest rates over greedflation...but I don't think we will have one...just another example of collusion to elect Republicans.

Elessar Zappa

(14,016 posts)
4. Isn't a recession coming because of the Fed's recent actions?
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 02:17 PM
Oct 2022

I thought one of the possible consequences from raising interest rates is a recession.

Mad_Machine76

(24,422 posts)
6. If people know this is coming
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 02:17 PM
Oct 2022

why can't we work to prevent it?


Lots of bad news for Biden/Democrats all of the sudden..........

Sympthsical

(9,086 posts)
10. It's not all of a sudden
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 02:21 PM
Oct 2022

This was all known some months ago. I remember having these conversations here back in July while discussing inflation and gas prices.

If people decide to ostrich entire situations, at some point that's on them.

cilla4progress

(24,756 posts)
13. I think you miss their point.
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 02:23 PM
Oct 2022

Check WAPO's headlines. Good things are happening too, but all they disseminate is "news" that hurts Dems.

Sympthsical

(9,086 posts)
17. Confirmation bias
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 03:27 PM
Oct 2022

In the past week, we've had an inflation report (which was largely ignored here) showing things continuing their shitty trend. We have new polling showing a shift towards Republicans. We also have new polling showing public priorities shifting towards issues we're not really running on.

I've seen good points and silver linings in places. But it seems like if the media aren't blasting all the news that's fit for a partisan bubble, then they're being biased.

I just finished combing through the Harvard/HarrisX poll that showed January 6th rank 19th on issues voters give a shit about.

19th.

*looks at DU* *looks at poll* *looks at DU* Are we really going to argue we have our fingers on the pulse of what's happening in this country?

If people can't feel the disconnect between what they want to be true, what they perceive to be true, and what actually is true with the American electorate and how things are going, I don't know what to say. It's the problem with curated content. The obvious often doesn't make it through. And when the obvious is stated, it's just media bias. "You know how they are!" It's like quoting Jesus to right-wing Christianists. It gets a blink and a continued ignore.

Which is fine. But I choose not to worship at Our Lady of the Perpetually Surprised.

Sympthsical

(9,086 posts)
18. And I just checked WaPo's headlines. (2nd reply)
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 03:32 PM
Oct 2022

What's the problem here? The headlines in politics are as follows:

Trump’s long history of trafficking in antisemitic tropes

The potential sleeper races of 2022

Walker concedes giving check to ex-partner, denies knowing it was for abortion

Post Politics Now: More debates in marquee races playing out ahead of midterms

White House calls Trump’s attack on American Jews antisemitic


Ok, we're five headlines in. I see no radically biased headlines yet. I'll keep digging.

The top 10 Democratic presidential candidates for 2024, ranked

The new Jan. 6 video, and the other baseless GOP claim about Pelosi

5 takeaways from the latest Jan. 6 hearing

Trump’s fast-growing obstruction of justice problem

CDC officials describe intense pressure, job threats from Trump White House


So let's get this straight. Those are the Top 10 headlines on WaPo as I type this. And your argument is that they are just super biased towards the Right?

Really?

Sympthsical

(9,086 posts)
21. Yes, I read the articles
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 04:26 PM
Oct 2022

If that place is just hopelessly right-wing biased, I honestly don't think any media would satisfy outside of one heavily curated to one's partisan preferences.

It's not specific to WaPo, but you called them out, and it seems there's little objective basis for it. Just a perception and claim.

I honestly think I could make a lot of money creating a heavily biased news site where it sounds objective, but it's carefully curated to only discuss things in subtly favorable ways. Nothing overtly partisan. Just take the daily news and clip out the unpleasant bits. Maybe decontextualize. I could call it Only Blue Vibes (gotta get Gen Z eyeballs in there). I'd have a poll section that is only the good parts. And if things don't work out - i.e. surprising election results - I'd just find a columnist to write about how it was all a conspiracy. Problem. Solved.

The thing is, it'd probably work.

cilla4progress

(24,756 posts)
26. You say po-tah-to I say po-tay-to -
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 06:45 PM
Oct 2022

I wish I had time to curate news article to make my point...I note bias in MSM as do many others. One lame example I can give is SNL's mocking this weekend of Pelosi and Schumer panicking thinking with credibility that their lives were in danger, as well as SNL's relentless mocking of Biden for his age.

cilla4progress

(24,756 posts)
11. I am noticing this
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 02:21 PM
Oct 2022

Guess MSM is all in for autocracy, too.
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So much easier to have a dictator make all the hard decisions. Until they start dragging off dissenters...

Bettie

(16,117 posts)
12. The Fed is actively working to create a recession
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 02:22 PM
Oct 2022

and of course there's lot of bad news for Biden/Dems....that's what the media does, they fluff Republicans and scream about the world ending for Democrats.

We could be in a full-on depression and if a Republican was in the White House, the media would be lauding the great economic leadership of whoever that guy was.

ismnotwasm

(41,998 posts)
20. I thought the coming recession was common knowledge?
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 03:45 PM
Oct 2022

It’s not a personal “blow to Biden” but a natural fallout of emerging from a pandemic, among other economic stressors. I get the optics factor though

FakeNoose

(32,680 posts)
22. Why isn't Bloomberg talking about how Chump plundered the U.S. Treasury like a drunken sailor
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 04:39 PM
Oct 2022

... for 4 blessed years!

Of course the Dems have to suck it up and pay the bills now, because we're Democrats and that's what we do.
We clean up their messes. Every.stinking.time.



WarGamer

(12,462 posts)
23. We're already IN a recession... I do agree that 23 will be worse.
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 04:52 PM
Oct 2022
https://fortune.com/2022/10/10/global-recession-already-hitting-major-economies-morgan-stanley/

‘This debate to some extent is over.’ Major economies are already in a global recession, Morgan Stanley strategist says
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