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TomDaisy

(1,893 posts)
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 02:12 PM Oct 2022

the media still ripping Katie Hobbs for "refusing to debate" yet ignores Herschel no-show

https://www.azfamily.com/2022/10/15/katie-hobbs-responds-pbs-debate-drama-regarding-kari-lake/
Published: Oct. 14, 2022 at 6:30 PM PDT

PHOENIX (3TV/CBS 5) — As early ballots arrive in the mail, the polls show the Arizona governor’s race is a toss-up. Right now, the issue dominating this nationally watched matchup is the debate or lack thereof. Democrat Katie Hobbs refused to debate republican Kari Lake and this all boiled over this week with Lake lashing out at Hobbs. Arizona’s Family had a one-on-one interview with Hobbs on Friday, where she said she is not changing her mind on the debate issue. She was adamant that there is no way she will debate Lake on the same stage. She thinks it’s pointless to debate someone who can’t acknowledge facts about the 2020 election, which Lake has said over and over was stolen from Donald Trump.

Lake has framed the fight over debating as a job interview with voters that Hobbs doesn’t deserve the job if she doesn’t show up. On Wednesday, Lake attacked Hobbs as being unprepared to be the state’s chief executive and accused her Democratic opponent of being scared.


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the media still ripping Katie Hobbs for "refusing to debate" yet ignores Herschel no-show (Original Post) TomDaisy Oct 2022 OP
You can't debate crazy people MacKasey Oct 2022 #1
It's a mistake not to iemanja Oct 2022 #30
That's how the media does it Bettie Oct 2022 #2
Except Walker did debate Warnock AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2022 #11
Not true... brooklynite Oct 2022 #3
See comment #4...nuff said...Katie will NOT yield to Lake and her digusting asiliveandbreathe Oct 2022 #9
If Kari Lake can be expected to spew "disgusting rhetoric", all the more reason to show her off... brooklynite Oct 2022 #13
Well you make a pretty good argument..the WOMEN of AZ are tired of lake asiliveandbreathe Oct 2022 #16
"explain what good did it do to hold that debate with the pos" brooklynite Oct 2022 #19
Seriously..you think Biden won because of the debate with the pos..seriously.. asiliveandbreathe Oct 2022 #22
I think being in the debate HELPED him win. brooklynite Oct 2022 #23
Lake attacks Hobbs..no debate..I agree with Katies sentiment -. asiliveandbreathe Oct 2022 #4
It's not a good look not to debate, no matter how idiotic your opponent. BlueTsunami2018 Oct 2022 #5
+++ JohnSJ Oct 2022 #8
It's about the double standard. Nevilledog Oct 2022 #12
I really don't understand the media's take on this AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2022 #14
Lake's refusal also came with a threat to PBS Nevilledog Oct 2022 #18
And this is being blamed on Hobbs? AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2022 #20
Lake's a psycho... The stuff that comes outta her mouth is terrifying. Nevilledog Oct 2022 #21
republican governor Bill Lee won't debate Jason Martin. spanone Oct 2022 #17
Here Here!!! A voice of sanity...the fight goes on ..debate or NOT to debate .. asiliveandbreathe Oct 2022 #24
So agree. It like going into the lion's den for her but people know that and will admire her. n/t Peregrine Took Oct 2022 #25
And yet Lake has no evidence of voter fraud...... Lovie777 Oct 2022 #6
Hobbs should have debated Lake. JohnSJ Oct 2022 #7
regardless, the media took a pound of flesh from Hobbs, and nothing from Walker TomDaisy Oct 2022 #10
Because Walker did debate Warnock nt AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2022 #15
he blew off the second debate and didn't show up TomDaisy Oct 2022 #26
And what did he do at the first one? AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2022 #27
a skipped debate is a skipped debate TomDaisy Oct 2022 #28
Not when the skipped debate is the only debate onenote Oct 2022 #29
he committed to show up then he didn't TomDaisy Oct 2022 #31

iemanja

(53,038 posts)
30. It's a mistake not to
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 12:46 PM
Oct 2022

Now that crazy person stands a better chance of winning. Democrats can make excuses for Hobbs, but most voters don't like when candidates refuse to debate.

Bettie

(16,117 posts)
2. That's how the media does it
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 02:18 PM
Oct 2022

one set of standards for Republicans another, entirely different one for Democrats.

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,045 posts)
11. Except Walker did debate Warnock
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 02:31 PM
Oct 2022

Saw a lot of complaints about it on Friday night, along w hilarious pictures of Walker flashing his junior g-man badge.

brooklynite

(94,657 posts)
3. Not true...
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 02:18 PM
Oct 2022

NY Times: Warnock Hammers Walker in Senate Debate, Gesturing to an Empty Lectern

The Hill: Warnock calls out Walker for skipping debate: ‘Half of being a senator is showing up’

Washington Post: Warnock answers Libertarian wildcard in Ga.; Walker skips

ABC: Scott Georgia Sen. Warnock blasts Walker as no-show to planned debate

The primary difference is that Walker showed up for his first debate, while Hobbs hasn't done any.


asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
9. See comment #4...nuff said...Katie will NOT yield to Lake and her digusting
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 02:24 PM
Oct 2022

rhetoric..the WOMEN of AZ are smart..NO on lake..maybe lake can get her teleprompter fired up when she goes back on the air with her scripted faux snooze!!!

brooklynite

(94,657 posts)
13. If Kari Lake can be expected to spew "disgusting rhetoric", all the more reason to show her off...
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 02:33 PM
Oct 2022

Should Biden have refused to debate Trump? Should Flowers have refused to debate MTG?

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
16. Well you make a pretty good argument..the WOMEN of AZ are tired of lake
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 02:41 PM
Oct 2022

and her ilk..NO, to giving any more of a platform for their shit..the media does a great job of always finding the drama..WE don't need it..our country doesn't need it..let's get back to some semblance of normalcy..

Is it a mistake for Hobbs to NOT stand on the same stage as shit..NOPE!!!..It would not have bothered me if Biden had refused the pos..explain what good did it do to hold that debate with the pos..nada, zilch..same with Flowers..what good did it do but to give shit a platform..

brooklynite

(94,657 posts)
19. "explain what good did it do to hold that debate with the pos"
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 02:49 PM
Oct 2022

Well, Biden won...

My analysis is that people were tired of Trump, and anything that helped reinforce that belief (and showed that Biden was a sane alternative) was valuable.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
22. Seriously..you think Biden won because of the debate with the pos..seriously..
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 02:56 PM
Oct 2022

For me, it was because of the pos the last 4 years..yes, we are tired of the spewing of evil crap..Biden came through as sane without a debate...his campaign was great..his message was heard and got through to many more people than the dirtbag..8 mill more..
WOMEN WILL be the force this year....

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brooklynite

(94,657 posts)
23. I think being in the debate HELPED him win.
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 02:57 PM
Oct 2022

If Hobbs being in a debate HELPS her to win, that's a reason to do one.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
4. Lake attacks Hobbs..no debate..I agree with Katies sentiment -.
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 02:19 PM
Oct 2022
Katie Hobbs was adamant that there is no way she will debate Lake on the same stage. She thinks it’s pointless to debate someone who can’t acknowledge facts about the 2020 election, which Lake has said over and over was stolen from Donald Trump.


Lake has no policy that Arizona WOMEN want for their state...If Lake wants a job, I hear dog catcher is available..but even then...

BlueTsunami2018

(3,496 posts)
5. It's not a good look not to debate, no matter how idiotic your opponent.
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 02:19 PM
Oct 2022

Maybe especially when your opponent is such a loon. You can make such a contrast very stark in that situation.

I hope it doesn’t hurt too bad.

Nevilledog

(51,157 posts)
12. It's about the double standard.
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 02:31 PM
Oct 2022

Ducey didn't debate Bennett
Biggs won't debate
Hamadeh cancelled debates
Nancy Barto won't debate


Those are just AZ examples that have received almost zero bad publicity.


Katie Hobbs is in a lose-lose position. Lake will not follow the rules and will turn it into a shitshow with a firehose of lies.

What Katie has done is answer all the questions asked by The Arizona Republic (Lake refused) and participated in town hall Q & A sessions.

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,045 posts)
14. I really don't understand the media's take on this
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 02:37 PM
Oct 2022

From people who absolutely aren’t conservatives. Hobbs refused to debate, but agreed to an interview. Lake threw a fit and cancelled her appearance at the debate and refused to do an interview. And it’s Hobbs’ fault?

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,045 posts)
20. And this is being blamed on Hobbs?
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 02:51 PM
Oct 2022

Lake is throwing a tantrum but it's Hobbs' fault. I personally think Hobbs should've debated Lake, but that was decided months ago, and yet Hobbs agreeing to do an interview is somehow wrong?

Nevilledog

(51,157 posts)
21. Lake's a psycho... The stuff that comes outta her mouth is terrifying.
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 02:54 PM
Oct 2022

The real problem here is that the media should be shouting about what a danger she is instead of turning a blind eye to the insanity.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
24. Here Here!!! A voice of sanity...the fight goes on ..debate or NOT to debate ..
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 02:59 PM
Oct 2022

too many here just don't get it..Katie is NOT going to give shit a platform..DONE!!

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,045 posts)
27. And what did he do at the first one?
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 10:03 PM
Oct 2022

I’m not defending the dumbass, but he did debate Warnock, which is more than Hobbs did. So claiming the media is biased because they aren’t criticizing him for not debating Warnock is flat out false.

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