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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,096 posts)
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 05:15 PM Oct 2022

'Am I a Felon?' The Fall of Roe v. Wade Has Permanently Changed the Doctor-Patient Relationship

A few days after the Supreme Court eliminated the constitutional right to abortion in June, Dr. Mae Winchester got a call late at night. One of her patients had developed sepsis after her water broke at 19 weeks of pregnancy. Sepsis can be fatal, and normally Winchester, a maternal-fetal medicine physician in Ohio, would rush her patient into the operating room and provide an abortion. But this time, she felt she had to call her hospital’s lawyers first.

The lawyers agreed that treating this patient with an abortion would be legal under Ohio’s new abortion ban, which contained an exception to prevent the death of the mother. But in other cases, Winchester says care has been delayed, or the lawyers have disagreed with her, and she hasn’t been allowed to provide the care she deems necessary. “Meanwhile, the patient is just sitting in the operating room by herself,” Winchester says, “not knowing what I can do.”

Winchester is just one of many doctors throughout the country struggling to navigate the complicated and rapidly shifting legal landscape of abortion after the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade with its decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization. With abortion rights now left up to the states, physicians and other medical providers are confused about what services they are legally allowed to provide, often forced to consult lawyers on decisions they used to be able to make on their own, and scared for their patients’ lives.

In Wisconsin, where a ban dating back to 1849 prohibits all abortions except to save the life of the pregnant patient, groups of lawyers and doctors are collectively trying to come up with guidance on what situations pose a serious enough threat to a patient’s health to justify an abortion. In Texas, some hospitals have created committees to review such situations, while others have established protocols requiring multiple doctors to sign off on medically necessary abortions. With a state law allowing private-citizen lawsuits in effect, physicians are concerned that anyone—from a local politician to a patient’s family member to a nurse or cleaning staff member—could file suit if the person disagrees with their decision. And in Idaho, the state’s total abortion ban has led doctors to discuss medically transporting patients out of state if they need serious treatment and drastically affected care for even ectopic pregnancies, a condition in which a fertilized egg implants outside the uterus, making the pregnancy nonviable and potentially life-threatening if untreated.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/am-felon-fall-roe-v-110027537.html

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'Am I a Felon?' The Fall of Roe v. Wade Has Permanently Changed the Doctor-Patient Relationship (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2022 OP
What I find at least as awful as these new abortion restrictions, PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2022 #1
The AMA has spoken out and called the ruling an egregious govt intrusion Docreed2003 Oct 2022 #2
Some groups are speaking out. Whether they draw attention of the media is another question Raven123 Oct 2022 #3
WTF has happened? yankee87 Oct 2022 #4
I am so sorry for your experience Hekate Oct 2022 #6
It's only permanent if we fail to get people to vote! Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2022 #5

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,865 posts)
1. What I find at least as awful as these new abortion restrictions,
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 05:20 PM
Oct 2022

is that doctors don't seem to have the courage to stand up to them, and give their patients the care they need and deserve. Nor does it seem that the AMA or any doctor groups are speaking out. Fucking cowards.

Docreed2003

(16,869 posts)
2. The AMA has spoken out and called the ruling an egregious govt intrusion
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 05:30 PM
Oct 2022
https://www.ama-assn.org/press-center/press-releases/ruling-egregious-allowance-government-intrusion-medicine

Docs are doing their best in their individual circumstances. However, I think it's going to take one of these extreme states charging a physician to get national recognition. Much like anything else, the AMA can scream to its hearts content but if it's not covered by the media, it's not heard.

yankee87

(2,175 posts)
4. WTF has happened?
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 05:45 PM
Oct 2022

From personal experience in Georgia years ago, my wife is miscarrying and the “pro/life” doctor took a blood sample to see the fetus was technically dead. Meanwhile my wife is in the ER by herself. I get there and blood is everywhere. She was left by herself and would have bled out if I didn’t get there. I walk into her room, screamed and another doctor had to take care of her. That fucking pro-life doctor would have let her die. There was so much blood. Women will die for this fuckers to virtue signal.
Sorry for the language, but it’s very personal to me. Also, my daughter in law in Indiana won’t get pregnant again because she doesn’t want to lose her life and leave her daughter motherless.

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