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Augiedog

(2,702 posts)
Wed Oct 19, 2022, 03:20 PM Oct 2022

All this frothing and foaming about how the right wing is a shoe in for the mid terms is nothing

more than prep work for denying the losses they are about to suffer. They are going down or America is.

Polls that are most prominently reported are primarily financed by right wing organizations, with predetermined results already set.

Every single one of these losers is going to scream election fraud the instant they see the writing (votes) on the wall.

They simply refuse to accept that the vast majority of Americans think they are nuts.

Here in Wisconsin the republicans have rigged the districts so badly for voters that it is almost impossible for democrats to win anything other than state wide elections, which they do consistently. If the gerrymandering were stopped in Wisconsin republicans would NEVER win another office again.

They lost the presidency, governor, and a senate seat last time. They know their days are numbered. They are scared to death of the power they are going to lose sooner or later, but lose it they will.

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All this frothing and foaming about how the right wing is a shoe in for the mid terms is nothing (Original Post) Augiedog Oct 2022 OP
💯❗️ Democrats are running against the RWO* media live love laugh Oct 2022 #1
Exactly, ignore the naysaying and ratufckers and get out the vote. FSogol Oct 2022 #2
Polls with results you don't like aren't a conspiracy theory. tritsofme Oct 2022 #3
There are no decent polls out there for this sort of year...and I believe there is a deliberate Demsrule86 Oct 2022 #21
Do you even know for sure that behind behind in polls is an effective deterrent? Silent3 Oct 2022 #26
I hope so, but there's this little thing called history... TreasonousBastard Oct 2022 #4
I'm not sure that's true moose65 Oct 2022 #6
I think this year is different JustAnotherGen Oct 2022 #7
Yep. and the previous poster also had a point. Eyeball_Kid Oct 2022 #19
That is not true...the ACA cost us the House. And a few years laters, won us the House...only twice Demsrule86 Oct 2022 #22
Agree JustAnotherGen Oct 2022 #27
Don't think we'll see an enthusiasm gap this time. summer_in_TX Oct 2022 #24
I really have no idea who votes in midterm elections, but the way it's been is... TreasonousBastard Oct 2022 #8
Is that what YOU did? moose65 Oct 2022 #23
Nothing. Is. Written. DinahMoeHum Oct 2022 #10
While every election is different melm00se Oct 2022 #5
Hard to believe Rs win after all Dems and Biden have done. Pepsidog Oct 2022 #9
Kudos to you for your great attitude!! Go Dems!!! PortTack Oct 2022 #11
What shoe? n/t DFW Oct 2022 #12
Women will beat them. It is simple. Do not take away Citizens Freedoms? pwb Oct 2022 #13
Just kick Johnson out of his senate seat. NoMoreRepugs Oct 2022 #14
100% agree-- exactly what I was thinking LymphocyteLover Oct 2022 #15
I rather Democrats overperform on the upside than disappoint on the downside. 'nt bucolic_frolic Oct 2022 #16
This Maggiemayhem Oct 2022 #17
You guys need to do what we did in Michigan and put an anti-gerrymandering prop catbyte Oct 2022 #18
K&R - Thanks. You got a Rec after the first sentence. c-rational Oct 2022 #20
Thanks for the post RANDYWILDMAN Oct 2022 #25

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
21. There are no decent polls out there for this sort of year...and I believe there is a deliberate
Wed Oct 19, 2022, 06:22 PM
Oct 2022

effort to discourage Democrats...it won't work. Georgia is having a huge turnout.

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
26. Do you even know for sure that behind behind in polls is an effective deterrent?
Thu Oct 20, 2022, 05:12 AM
Oct 2022

When it suits some people, they will argue being ahead in the polls creates complacency, and therefore supposedly lowers turnout.

Do you even realize that many political polls are a form of advertising for polling services? And the worse a pollster does at polling political races, the less saleable their paid-for polling becomes?

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
4. I hope so, but there's this little thing called history...
Wed Oct 19, 2022, 03:29 PM
Oct 2022

A party wins the White House and maybe Congress, and two years later things aren't going the way the public would like, so they throw the bums out.

moose65

(3,454 posts)
6. I'm not sure that's true
Wed Oct 19, 2022, 04:21 PM
Oct 2022

I can't wrap my head around a voter who voted for Obama and other Democrats in 2008, and then 2 years later decided to vote for a Republican in their House district. The more likely scenario is that the Democratic voter didn't vote in 2010. Back not too many years ago, mid-term elections were base elections, and the Republicans were more likely to turn out their base voters.

I really don't think there are that many truly "independent" voters who jump back and forth between the two parties. Unaffiliated voters also have their partisan biases, and I think it's as baked-in as it is for hardcore Dems or Repubs. However, independent voters may decide to sit out an election. They don't vote for the other side - they just don't vote at all.

JustAnotherGen

(38,054 posts)
7. I think this year is different
Wed Oct 19, 2022, 04:24 PM
Oct 2022

I think January 6, gutting Voting Rights, and the Overturn of Roe is present. It may turn out to be a very different midterm.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,604 posts)
19. Yep. and the previous poster also had a point.
Wed Oct 19, 2022, 06:19 PM
Oct 2022

The 2010 midterms resulted in a big sweep of GOPers into office because Obama failed to come through with his implied promises to clean up Bush 43's Iraq mess. He never did, and Pelosi refused to push prosecutions for the war crimes committed by Bush's cronies and Bush himself. Dems got discouraged and despaired. The big turnout in '08 didn't happen again because of the enthusiasm gap.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
22. That is not true...the ACA cost us the House. And a few years laters, won us the House...only twice
Wed Oct 19, 2022, 06:25 PM
Oct 2022

in more than 100 years has the president's party won the midterm...I think this is the year it will happen again. It happened in 1934 and in 2002

JustAnotherGen

(38,054 posts)
27. Agree
Thu Oct 20, 2022, 11:06 AM
Oct 2022

He used all of his capital to get us one step closer to single payer/mfa. I think we will continue to push to that - if we don't lose ground next month, or in the next decade.

I will never regret voting for Obama in 2008.

I also think you are right about it happening again in 2022. 1934 - Great Depression and America chose to stay the course to keep moving forward. 2002 - A year after an act of terrorism - just like on 1/6/21.

summer_in_TX

(4,168 posts)
24. Don't think we'll see an enthusiasm gap this time.
Thu Oct 20, 2022, 12:46 AM
Oct 2022

It helps that most Dems haven't shied away from campaigning with Biden. That was widespread during 2010 and helped undermine all the Dems.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
8. I really have no idea who votes in midterm elections, but the way it's been is...
Wed Oct 19, 2022, 04:25 PM
Oct 2022

that we elect an R or D and things don't go as we expect so in the midterms we try the other side.

That's the way it usually seems to go.

moose65

(3,454 posts)
23. Is that what YOU did?
Wed Oct 19, 2022, 07:02 PM
Oct 2022

I know that’s not how I approach voting. Are there really that many people out there who have that attitude? I can’t wrap my head around that.

More likely to me: the voters for the party out of power are more motivated than the voters on the other side. In 2010, Dem house candidates abandoned Obama and ran from him, and people don’t like candidates who do that kind of stuff. People like fighters and candidates who stick to their principles. Why would an unaffiliated voter choose a wishy washy candidate like that?

DinahMoeHum

(23,604 posts)
10. Nothing. Is. Written.
Wed Oct 19, 2022, 04:45 PM
Oct 2022
History doesn't always repeat, or rhyme.

This year, like all other years is about turning out the vote. Nothing else.

melm00se

(5,161 posts)
5. While every election is different
Wed Oct 19, 2022, 03:44 PM
Oct 2022

Different candidates
Different environments
Different issues

Statistically, the President's party loses 28 House seats and 4 Senate seats at the midterms.

Since 1934, 3 House elections (1934, 1998 and 2002) and 6 Senate elections (1934, 1962, 1970, 1982, 2002 and 2018) have been exceptions.

But, as the saying goes, "that's why they play the game". Hopefully the Republicans don't gain control in either House. If they do we are going to see nothing but impeach, impeach impeach for the next 2 years.

pwb

(12,662 posts)
13. Women will beat them. It is simple. Do not take away Citizens Freedoms?
Wed Oct 19, 2022, 05:05 PM
Oct 2022

Roevember !!!!!!!

catbyte

(39,152 posts)
18. You guys need to do what we did in Michigan and put an anti-gerrymandering prop
Wed Oct 19, 2022, 06:14 PM
Oct 2022

on the ballot which was passed by a about 63% of the vote. The entire state was redrawn to be more fair, so it'll be interesting to see what happens in November. The GQP has had a stranglehold on the state legislature since 2011 when they gerrymandered the crap out of us. The Independent Redistricting Commission (2 Democrats, 2 RepubliQans, 2 Independents) completed their work in time for election, so we'll see what happens. At least the legislature can't draw the lines ever again.

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