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turbinetree

(27,735 posts)
Thu Oct 20, 2022, 05:56 PM Oct 2022

OK Gov Mocks Dem Challenger For Accurately Noting State's Crime Rate

Gov. Kevin Stitt (R) scoffed, but Democrat Joy Hofmeister was just stating the facts.

By Ed Scarce — October 20, 2022

Joy Hofmeister, the Democratic nominee for governor, correctly says that Oklahoma has higher violent-crime rates than NY and California, and Kevin Stitt says that's "not true" and then bizarrely asks the crowd if they believe it's true.

I somehow don't think the embarrassing Stitt will still be laughing after November 8 when he loses in deep-red Oklahoma.

Source: Washington Post

In a debate Wednesday night between Oklahoma Gov. Kevin Stitt (R) and his Democratic challenger, Joy Hofmeister, the governor took issue with Hofmeister pointing out — accurately — the state’s violent crime problem.





https://crooksandliars.com/2022/10/okla-gov-mocks-dem-challenger-accurately
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OK Gov Mocks Dem Challenger For Accurately Noting State's Crime Rate (Original Post) turbinetree Oct 2022 OP
"Hi - I'm Kevin Stitt, and in case you missed it, I'm a doofus!" dchill Oct 2022 #1
It's all about the fee-fees of these rugged frontiersmen gratuitous Oct 2022 #2
His claim he "wrestled power back from the tribes" is laughable. Runningdawg Oct 2022 #3
Ms. Hofmeister is absolutely right Leith Oct 2022 #4
did the smart ass moderator ever "fact check" it tishaLA Oct 2022 #5
That's so annoying Just_Vote_Dem Oct 2022 #6

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
2. It's all about the fee-fees of these rugged frontiersmen
Thu Oct 20, 2022, 06:05 PM
Oct 2022

Oh sure, you can cite your statistics and fancy book-learnin' numbers, but here in Oklahoma we don't accept something as true just because there's facts and evidence showing that it's true. No siree! We accept things as real if we feel or believe they're true. We want to believe that our glorious state doesn't have a bad crime rate, so hey presto! Oklahoma's crime rate is lower than New York's or California's. As long as we all agree on that, it's true, no matter what the facts are!

We used to dismiss people like that as delusional. Now we elect them to high office.

Runningdawg

(4,664 posts)
3. His claim he "wrestled power back from the tribes" is laughable.
Thu Oct 20, 2022, 06:09 PM
Oct 2022

McGirt gave us back jurisdiction over the majority of NE and Central OK.
Months ago he fought to keep legal weed off the Nov ballot. Yesterday, slipping in the polls again, he announced a special election in March. First governor to get covid, only governor to hold a Trump rally in the middle of a pandemic.
He has got to go!!

Leith

(7,864 posts)
4. Ms. Hofmeister is absolutely right
Thu Oct 20, 2022, 06:27 PM
Oct 2022
From Wikipedia

This won't post well, but here goes:

2020 2019 2018 2017 2016 2015 2014 2013 2012 2011

Oklahoma 458.6 436.3 474.6 457.4 455.3 422.0 413.8 428.1 474.4 454.8

California 442.0 442.1 447.5 453.3 444.8 426.3 396.4 396.2 423.5 411.1

New York 363.8 361.0 350.8 361.1 374.6 379.7 384.7 389.8 406.3 398.1


New York has been consistently lower than both CA and OK. With the exceptions of 2019 and 2015, CA has been lower than OK. Hey Stitt and moderator! Truth hurts, don't it?

tishaLA

(14,794 posts)
5. did the smart ass moderator ever "fact check" it
Thu Oct 20, 2022, 07:21 PM
Oct 2022

or did he just say they would so he could cast doubt on her?

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