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Just reported on air.
By January 6th Committee
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)gab13by13
(32,328 posts)It will matter when DOJ subpoenas him.
ColinC
(11,098 posts)And it will matter if he testifies, as well. So like it probabbbly matters but I'm not holding my breath quite yet. At this point holding people accountable for corruption is going to be entirely based on how much Americans want it to happen.
SoCalDavidS
(10,599 posts)I'm glad they did it, but IT WON'T MATTER.
agingdem
(8,851 posts)he'll show up, trash the committee, spew "stolen election", "hoax", "Hunter Biden", "fraud", "crowd size", claim selective amnesia, plead the 5th...
the J6 committee doesn't really give a damn about his so-called testimony...this is about lawyers asking questions they already know the answers to..this is about letting that sonofabitch know they have the receipts...
and you're correct...this is a big "so what?"...
SoCalDavidS
(10,599 posts)It's all a fucking Shell Game.
90%+ of what comes out of his piehole is Bullshit Lies.
Bannon refused his subpoena, and he MAY go to prison by 2024. Why the hell would TFG bother honoring his?
Nobody, including the Commission, expect him to appear. They're just following procedure, but most if not all of them know it's a pointless gesture, that will go ignored.
agingdem
(8,851 posts)granted, there will be a good amount of back and forth but he'll show up..
ancianita
(43,307 posts)he'll be additionally cited for Contempt of Congress and likely go to trial like Bannon.
WarGamer
(18,613 posts)He'll give everyone on the Committee nicknames, insult everyone, give speeches as answers and when boxed in a corner for a yes/no answer he'll say "I don't recall"... or he'll say "That's confidential and you don't have clearance to know" and shit like that.
It'll be a televised Trump announcement speech for 24. The cultists will be at home watching, pumping their fists in the air.
I'd rather see him put under oath and asked questions by lawyers in a private closed room with video running.
Sigh... why couldn't President Obama have just stayed around for 20-30 years?
Scrivener7
(59,522 posts)what do you think will be the result?
The Jan 6 Committee has been masterful. I am eternally grateful to them. They have made the coup a matter of public record.
But what else do you think this subpoena and any resulting testimony will do? And DO you think there will be resulting testimony?
ShazzieB
(22,591 posts)But I don't think the J6 committee would be doing this just for the hell of it. As you say, they have been masterful. Brilliant, really. For that reason, I trust that they know what they're doing.
I think they have a reason for this, and a plan as to what they mean to accomplish with it. It may not be apparent to us, but so what? We don't know a fraction of what they know, and we can only guess at what their strategy is.
These people are not stupid, and they're not naive idealists. I believe they know exactly what they're doing and why they're doing it.
Scrivener7
(59,522 posts)is to get the facts about 1/6 on record for the American public and for history.
I think getting tfg on record would be a great thing to do to add to the facts about the day, even if only to have him on record taking the 5th. There is no mystery about this. Their goal is to get his response on record. Their strategy has never been a mystery.
But as long as it is just the Committee, it stops there. Without the DOJ chiming in, it is true that there will not be much impact other than to make it part of the public record.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Kingofalldems
(40,279 posts)And yes they did.
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)When nothing is done, they complain that nothing is done. When something is done they complain that it doesn't matter anyhow. There's usually some grossly authoritarian solution thrown in as well.
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)dem4decades
(14,061 posts)Hela
(476 posts)Beachnutt
(8,910 posts)He will be fined $6500 4 months in jail..
SoCalDavidS
(10,599 posts)For now, he gets to go back to his talk show and call it a Witch Hunt for the next year or so.
Duppers
(28,469 posts)But eventually he'll be nailed. 🤞
He MUST be prosecuted!!
867-5309.
(1,189 posts)Ocelot II
(130,538 posts)Its not a instantaneous thing.
gab13by13
(32,328 posts)the J6 committee couldn't find a Trump lawyer who would take the papers.
Scrivener7
(59,522 posts)UTUSN
(77,795 posts)* Not show at all - unlikely unless he misses BANNON so much as to visit him in jail.
* The deal will be made, not televised/not under oath?
* Taking the FIF all the way.
* If allowed to make opening/closing statements (despite the Fifth), will try to turn it into a rally.
* Will have his MAGGOT zombies storm the site (again).
SoCalDavidS
(10,599 posts)He got sentenced to jail, but for the next year or so, he's going back to his talk show and comfort of home.
TFG is more likely to win the 2024 election, than serve a day in prison. And if you think this is going to be what does that, I've got a Subpoena to sell you.
Treefrog
(4,170 posts)Maybe you missed the news.
UTUSN
(77,795 posts)Guess we'll see.
Poiuyt
(18,272 posts)He lies like the rest of us breath.
Warpy
(114,616 posts)That corpulent one man crime wave has a whole host of prosecutors on his tail right now.
SergeStorms
(20,591 posts)We all know how Trump deals with subpoenas.
They end up swirling around and down his golden "filing cabinet".
ancianita
(43,307 posts)This will merit a Jan 6 criminal referral to the DOJ.
lindysalsagal
(22,915 posts)And hiding evidence. It makes the coverup a solid, provable event.
jaxexpat
(7,794 posts)I can't quite shake the image of a bunch of highly educated, dedicated, gifted and important people carefully crafting and strategically placing mousetraps to ensnare a rat with a cruise missile, made in the USSR.
Cha
(319,082 posts)TY!
spanone
(141,628 posts)Cha
(319,082 posts)outlive the MF.. that's how Bad it i.
Evolve Dammit
(21,777 posts)previously mentioned swastikas and pro-Drumpf graffiti in my city in 2015 and his "rally/campaign" violent rhetoric. When I learned his Dad was arrested at a KKK rally in NYC and he and his Dad were the largest discrimination lawsuit ever settled om record (in NYC) I guess it just told me what to expect. His shitstain cult and obvious mob-boss tactics, coup attempt, etc. are just the start if DOJ doesn't indict and convict.
kentuck
(115,407 posts)Have we heard? Is it after the election?
spanone
(141,628 posts)Reps. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.) and Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.), the chair and vice chair of the panel, are requesting Trump turn over documents by Nov. 4 and appear for a deposition on Nov. 14.
https://www.axios.com/2022/10/21/donald-trump-news-subpoena-jan-6
Fiendish Thingy
(23,240 posts)Only so many bushes you can hide behind
mcar
(46,059 posts)Sugarcoated
(8,240 posts)going into the midterms.
Marcuse
(9,010 posts)
CaptainTruth
(8,202 posts)Emile
(42,293 posts)ancianita
(43,307 posts)Emile
(42,293 posts)malaise
(296,118 posts)RFN!
FakeNoose
(41,637 posts)His lawyers won't want him there because they can't control what he says.
But they aren't going to tell him to skip it either.
standhero
(12 posts)Holy Shitz ...this could be the one!!!!
...just joking my friends. One more nail in a coffin ....with one thousand eight hundred fifty nails and counting.....no sign of sealing the casket. Poor folks and regular blokes ...workin class fools and government mules... would have been behind bars in years one, two, three, four and five. Rich boys with limo's filled with lawyers...friends on the court, Senators on 'speed dial' and Saudi Sheiks with their hands on the scale...walk free. THAT- is the America...that we are very very close to handing over to RIGHT. Vancouver anyone?
Sugarcoated
(8,240 posts)Makes independents think twice about voting for coup apologists/enablers/participants running. Good stuff!
RevBrotherThomas
(856 posts)Trump has anesthetized the media and the American public. Scandal after scandal, lawsuit after lawsuit, obfuscation after obfuscation, delay after delay.
He has made what should be - what IS - scandalous into "ho-hum, here we go again". He has made an art of not admitting fault or guilt (no matter HOW guilty), not even addressing anything for which he could conceivably be faulted, and letting his slimy lawyers gum up the legal system with delaying tactics. With no satisfaction of any kind for his detractors - hell he even made losing the presidency big business - he knows how short the emotional memory of the general public is.
I don't have any answers. I'm just terribly depressed and frightened at how such an amoral creature has played us.
calimary
(90,021 posts)We HAVE TO push this through.
And let our reps know WE (also known as their employers) DEMAND that this go through and that there are CONSEQUENCES for this kind of shit and outright criminality.
If all we do is shrug and concede defeat before even trying to fight, then seriously, what good are we?????
We HAVE TO call our reps and reinforce this!!! HAVE TO!!! Let them know in NO uncertain terms that THIS is an absolute MUST. CONSEQUENCES. Consequences with TEETH.
If we give up the fight and decide to just get comfortable with the losing side, WE are the problem, and weve handed the bad guys not just an unearned run but a whole unearned game, if not an entire unearned season.