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Per CNN....Trump Subpoenaed. (Original Post) spanone Oct 2022 OP
In before the chorus of "It won't matter" AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2022 #1
It won't matter. gab13by13 Oct 2022 #4
It will matter if he ignores it (and Dems keep house) ColinC Oct 2022 #21
You Let Us Know When It Does, OK? SoCalDavidS Oct 2022 #5
True.. agingdem Oct 2022 #10
He's Not Gonna Show Up SoCalDavidS Oct 2022 #17
I think he will..his ego needs a confrontation agingdem Oct 2022 #36
If he does all that under oath, ancianita Oct 2022 #43
If he shows up... he'll demand a 90 minute opening statement... WarGamer Oct 2022 #58
Yup. Treefrog Oct 2022 #26
In defending the position that it will be highly impactful, Scrivener7 Oct 2022 #9
I don't know what impact this will have. ShazzieB Oct 2022 #24
I think the issue at hand, though, is that the function of the Committee Scrivener7 Oct 2022 #27
Good job!!! You made me smile :) Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2022 #37
The 'Trump wins again' crew always shows up. Kingofalldems Oct 2022 #48
I'm not sure what they want AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2022 #49
and...... It will be delayed, and unless Democrats win the House, thrown out JohnSJ Oct 2022 #2
Yep, delay, delay, delay. He'll never face the music. dem4decades Oct 2022 #15
MSNBC has it too. n/t Hela Oct 2022 #3
I guess If he doesn't show up Beachnutt Oct 2022 #6
MAYBE Eventually SoCalDavidS Oct 2022 #19
He'll repeal. Duppers Oct 2022 #33
Wasn't this decided days ago? n/t 867-5309. Oct 2022 #7
It was decided a few days ago but the process was completed today. Ocelot II Oct 2022 #8
It wasn't issued sooner because gab13by13 Oct 2022 #11
Really? That's awesome! Scrivener7 Oct 2022 #38
Counting the possible ways it plays out: UTUSN Oct 2022 #12
Banon's Going To Jail? SoCalDavidS Oct 2022 #22
Bannon is not in jail. Treefrog Oct 2022 #29
I didnt say he's IN jail right now. Might be by the time Drumpf's time is up. UTUSN Oct 2022 #53
Maybe. Treefrog Oct 2022 #57
Another scenario: He'll lie through his teeth Poiuyt Oct 2022 #30
By whom and for what? Warpy Oct 2022 #13
Yeah, big deal. SergeStorms Oct 2022 #14
2 U.S. Code 192 -- refusal of witness to testify or produce papers ancianita Oct 2022 #44
This step is required to prove he's obstructing justice lindysalsagal Oct 2022 #16
I get and agree with your point, but..... jaxexpat Oct 2022 #32
Fuck DT.. he Got SUBPOENED!! Cha Oct 2022 #18
I'm so tired of this shitstain in our lives. spanone Oct 2022 #31
Yeah, No Shite.. I hope I Cha Oct 2022 #34
I knew when this asswipe came on the scene we were headed this way. Don't know why other than the Evolve Dammit Oct 2022 #41
When was he scheduled to appear? kentuck Oct 2022 #20
After... spanone Oct 2022 #23
So I guess they found somebody they could serve Fiendish Thingy Oct 2022 #25
Friday follies! mcar Oct 2022 #28
Whether he shows or not, this will put the orange puss bag front and center Sugarcoated Oct 2022 #35
He can't help himself. Marcuse Oct 2022 #39
I assume this means he's been served? CaptainTruth Oct 2022 #40
When is his hearing date? Emile Oct 2022 #42
See Reply #20 ancianita Oct 2022 #46
#23 got it. Emile Oct 2022 #52
Lock him up malaise Oct 2022 #45
I believe Chump would want to testify, because ... free TV and everyone is watching FakeNoose Oct 2022 #47
One more Nail standhero Oct 2022 #50
Puts the failed coup guy, GOP terrorists front and center in Americans' minds Sugarcoated Oct 2022 #51
Dulled to the point of "who cares" RevBrotherThomas Oct 2022 #54
Well, then that means the bad guys won another war - without firing a shot. calimary Oct 2022 #55
Firing a shot would be great. Scrivener7 Oct 2022 #56

ColinC

(11,098 posts)
21. It will matter if he ignores it (and Dems keep house)
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 02:42 PM
Oct 2022

And it will matter if he testifies, as well. So like it probabbbly matters but I'm not holding my breath quite yet. At this point holding people accountable for corruption is going to be entirely based on how much Americans want it to happen.

agingdem

(8,851 posts)
10. True..
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 02:14 PM
Oct 2022

he'll show up, trash the committee, spew "stolen election", "hoax", "Hunter Biden", "fraud", "crowd size", claim selective amnesia, plead the 5th...

the J6 committee doesn't really give a damn about his so-called testimony...this is about lawyers asking questions they already know the answers to..this is about letting that sonofabitch know they have the receipts...

and you're correct...this is a big "so what?"...

 

SoCalDavidS

(10,599 posts)
17. He's Not Gonna Show Up
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 02:38 PM
Oct 2022

It's all a fucking Shell Game.

90%+ of what comes out of his piehole is Bullshit Lies.

Bannon refused his subpoena, and he MAY go to prison by 2024. Why the hell would TFG bother honoring his?

Nobody, including the Commission, expect him to appear. They're just following procedure, but most if not all of them know it's a pointless gesture, that will go ignored.

agingdem

(8,851 posts)
36. I think he will..his ego needs a confrontation
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 03:17 PM
Oct 2022

granted, there will be a good amount of back and forth but he'll show up..

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
43. If he does all that under oath,
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 03:59 PM
Oct 2022

he'll be additionally cited for Contempt of Congress and likely go to trial like Bannon.

WarGamer

(18,613 posts)
58. If he shows up... he'll demand a 90 minute opening statement...
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 08:30 PM
Oct 2022

He'll give everyone on the Committee nicknames, insult everyone, give speeches as answers and when boxed in a corner for a yes/no answer he'll say "I don't recall"... or he'll say "That's confidential and you don't have clearance to know" and shit like that.

It'll be a televised Trump announcement speech for 24. The cultists will be at home watching, pumping their fists in the air.

I'd rather see him put under oath and asked questions by lawyers in a private closed room with video running.

Sigh... why couldn't President Obama have just stayed around for 20-30 years?

Scrivener7

(59,522 posts)
9. In defending the position that it will be highly impactful,
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 02:00 PM
Oct 2022

what do you think will be the result?

The Jan 6 Committee has been masterful. I am eternally grateful to them. They have made the coup a matter of public record.

But what else do you think this subpoena and any resulting testimony will do? And DO you think there will be resulting testimony?

ShazzieB

(22,591 posts)
24. I don't know what impact this will have.
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 02:46 PM
Oct 2022

But I don't think the J6 committee would be doing this just for the hell of it. As you say, they have been masterful. Brilliant, really. For that reason, I trust that they know what they're doing.

I think they have a reason for this, and a plan as to what they mean to accomplish with it. It may not be apparent to us, but so what? We don't know a fraction of what they know, and we can only guess at what their strategy is.

These people are not stupid, and they're not naive idealists. I believe they know exactly what they're doing and why they're doing it.

Scrivener7

(59,522 posts)
27. I think the issue at hand, though, is that the function of the Committee
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 02:56 PM
Oct 2022

is to get the facts about 1/6 on record for the American public and for history.

I think getting tfg on record would be a great thing to do to add to the facts about the day, even if only to have him on record taking the 5th. There is no mystery about this. Their goal is to get his response on record. Their strategy has never been a mystery.

But as long as it is just the Committee, it stops there. Without the DOJ chiming in, it is true that there will not be much impact other than to make it part of the public record.

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,744 posts)
49. I'm not sure what they want
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 04:18 PM
Oct 2022

When nothing is done, they complain that nothing is done. When something is done they complain that it doesn't matter anyhow. There's usually some grossly authoritarian solution thrown in as well.

 

SoCalDavidS

(10,599 posts)
19. MAYBE Eventually
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 02:41 PM
Oct 2022

For now, he gets to go back to his talk show and call it a Witch Hunt for the next year or so.

Ocelot II

(130,538 posts)
8. It was decided a few days ago but the process was completed today.
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 01:59 PM
Oct 2022

It’s not a instantaneous thing.

gab13by13

(32,328 posts)
11. It wasn't issued sooner because
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 02:18 PM
Oct 2022

the J6 committee couldn't find a Trump lawyer who would take the papers.

UTUSN

(77,795 posts)
12. Counting the possible ways it plays out:
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 02:18 PM
Oct 2022

* Not show at all - unlikely unless he misses BANNON so much as to visit him in jail.

* The deal will be made, not televised/not under oath?

* Taking the FIF all the way.

* If allowed to make opening/closing statements (despite the Fifth), will try to turn it into a rally.

* Will have his MAGGOT zombies storm the site (again).






 

SoCalDavidS

(10,599 posts)
22. Banon's Going To Jail?
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 02:43 PM
Oct 2022

He got sentenced to jail, but for the next year or so, he's going back to his talk show and comfort of home.

TFG is more likely to win the 2024 election, than serve a day in prison. And if you think this is going to be what does that, I've got a Subpoena to sell you.

Warpy

(114,616 posts)
13. By whom and for what?
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 02:21 PM
Oct 2022

That corpulent one man crime wave has a whole host of prosecutors on his tail right now.

SergeStorms

(20,591 posts)
14. Yeah, big deal.
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 02:25 PM
Oct 2022

We all know how Trump deals with subpoenas.
They end up swirling around and down his golden "filing cabinet".

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
44. 2 U.S. Code 192 -- refusal of witness to testify or produce papers
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 04:01 PM
Oct 2022

This will merit a Jan 6 criminal referral to the DOJ.

lindysalsagal

(22,915 posts)
16. This step is required to prove he's obstructing justice
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 02:35 PM
Oct 2022

And hiding evidence. It makes the coverup a solid, provable event.

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
32. I get and agree with your point, but.....
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 03:01 PM
Oct 2022

I can't quite shake the image of a bunch of highly educated, dedicated, gifted and important people carefully crafting and strategically placing mousetraps to ensnare a rat with a cruise missile, made in the USSR.

Evolve Dammit

(21,777 posts)
41. I knew when this asswipe came on the scene we were headed this way. Don't know why other than the
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 03:55 PM
Oct 2022

previously mentioned swastikas and pro-Drumpf graffiti in my city in 2015 and his "rally/campaign" violent rhetoric. When I learned his Dad was arrested at a KKK rally in NYC and he and his Dad were the largest discrimination lawsuit ever settled om record (in NYC) I guess it just told me what to expect. His shitstain cult and obvious mob-boss tactics, coup attempt, etc. are just the start if DOJ doesn't indict and convict.

spanone

(141,628 posts)
23. After...
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 02:44 PM
Oct 2022

Reps. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.) and Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.), the chair and vice chair of the panel, are requesting Trump turn over documents by Nov. 4 and appear for a deposition on Nov. 14.

https://www.axios.com/2022/10/21/donald-trump-news-subpoena-jan-6

Sugarcoated

(8,240 posts)
35. Whether he shows or not, this will put the orange puss bag front and center
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 03:06 PM
Oct 2022

going into the midterms.

FakeNoose

(41,637 posts)
47. I believe Chump would want to testify, because ... free TV and everyone is watching
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 04:08 PM
Oct 2022

His lawyers won't want him there because they can't control what he says.
But they aren't going to tell him to skip it either.

standhero

(12 posts)
50. One more Nail
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 04:26 PM
Oct 2022

Holy Shitz ...this could be the one!!!!

...just joking my friends. One more nail in a coffin ....with one thousand eight hundred fifty nails and counting.....no sign of sealing the casket. Poor folks and regular blokes ...workin class fools and government mules... would have been behind bars in years one, two, three, four and five. Rich boys with limo's filled with lawyers...friends on the court, Senators on 'speed dial' and Saudi Sheiks with their hands on the scale...walk free. THAT- is the America...that we are very very close to handing over to RIGHT. Vancouver anyone?

Sugarcoated

(8,240 posts)
51. Puts the failed coup guy, GOP terrorists front and center in Americans' minds
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 04:32 PM
Oct 2022

Makes independents think twice about voting for coup apologists/enablers/participants running. Good stuff!

RevBrotherThomas

(856 posts)
54. Dulled to the point of "who cares"
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 04:55 PM
Oct 2022

Trump has anesthetized the media and the American public. Scandal after scandal, lawsuit after lawsuit, obfuscation after obfuscation, delay after delay.

He has made what should be - what IS - scandalous into "ho-hum, here we go again". He has made an art of not admitting fault or guilt (no matter HOW guilty), not even addressing anything for which he could conceivably be faulted, and letting his slimy lawyers gum up the legal system with delaying tactics. With no satisfaction of any kind for his detractors - hell he even made losing the presidency big business - he knows how short the emotional memory of the general public is.

I don't have any answers. I'm just terribly depressed and frightened at how such an amoral creature has played us.

calimary

(90,021 posts)
55. Well, then that means the bad guys won another war - without firing a shot.
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 06:08 PM
Oct 2022

We HAVE TO push this through.

And let our reps know WE (also known as their employers) DEMAND that this go through and that there are CONSEQUENCES for this kind of shit and outright criminality.

If all we do is shrug and concede defeat before even trying to fight, then seriously, what good are we?????

We HAVE TO call our reps and reinforce this!!! HAVE TO!!! Let them know in NO uncertain terms that THIS is an absolute MUST. CONSEQUENCES. Consequences with TEETH.

If we give up the fight and decide to just get comfortable with the losing side, WE are the problem, and we’ve handed the bad guys not just an unearned run but a whole unearned game, if not an entire unearned season.

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