If Liz Cheney runs in 2024 does she hurt us more or MAGA?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

I'm of the opinion she would hurt us more and if she comes to that conclusion she won't run.

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[relayerbob]

1. Democrats won't vote for her at all

The issue is what moderate republicans do. In any case, if she runs, she won't take the nomination, but she may be able to play a spoiler to keep Trump out. Sadly, that would leave DeSatan as the next in line.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

2. I'm talking about the general election.

The ideal scenario is somebody other than Trump gets the Republican nomination and then Trump in a pique runs as third party. In that scenario we win forty states

[relayerbob]

7. That's a very unlikely scenario

And if it were to happen, then Liz Cheney running would be irrelevant

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. I can see DeSantis beating him and Trump in a pique runs third party to punish him.

[relayerbob]

16. I seriously doubt will be running in 2024, TBH

[Mike Nelson]

3. Hmm...

... she could not win the Republican nomination... she could run as an Ind and split the Republican votes... which would give The Donald little chance.

[Polybius]

5. I am not so certain

I think she'd get some Democratic votes as well. See seems to have a fan club for some reason.

[Mike Nelson]

6. I think...

... she may make some public "move to the left" on issues. She's already moved toward marriage equality, and will probably get nuanced on abortion. Then, she may move on fiscal issues.... Democrats would be less threatened... BUT, then she loses traditional Republican voters.

I admire her taking a stand for the truth, but I would not vote for her.

[Hortensis]

10. Her "fan club" is grateful for her protection of democracy,

NOT her conservative ideology or the rest of her record as the GOP became more extremist and betraying, which repels at first glance.

Even Republicans aren't one-dimensional, even if some can only see one.

Now, you might truthfully point out that some far lefties can be hard to distinguish from their far right counterparts and might vote for Cheney to try to defeat the Democratic candidate, but mainstream and liberal Democrats are not going to abandon their core convictions to swing to her.

[emulatorloo]

13. What you call her 'fan club' likes her work on Jan 6th committee, not her policy positions.

This is a pretty easy to understand concept.

[Polybius]

4. Probably neither, unless she runs 3rd party

I doubt she'd do that though.

[relayerbob]

8. Honestly, we need to be focussing on 2022

[lame54]

9. Her job would be to...

Stand up to Trump when the others running will not

She won't win and she knows it

But she wants to take down Trump with her

[emulatorloo]

11. +1 If she runs, she will not run to win. She'll run in Republican primary to damage election deniers

[StormKing]

12. Non-Trumpers won't win

Non-Trumpers won't win their primaries. They'll pull "moderate" votes away leaving the MAGA voters to get their candidate into the race.

In the final race, they'll pull moderate votes from the Democratic candidate.

[WarGamer]

14. In a general election, running as an Independent... she hurts DEMS

Because...

Look at 2020.

Not a SINGLE PERSON who voted for Trump in 2020 will vote for Liz.

Liz WILL GET lots of votes from disaffected Republicans who voted for BIDEN in 2020.

[Celerity]

17. Agree for the most part.

[CTyankee]

18. I would like to agree with you. I hope she doesn't run but uses her voice to help us win.

What she has done is magnificent.

[Solomon]

19. She would definitely hurt us more.

[kentuck]

20. I cannot think of a stronger candidate to run against Trump and the Fascists.

Compared to the MAGAs, Liz Cheney is like a liberal Democrat. There is a world of difference between them.