Is it true Tim Ryan (D) Ohio said he did NOT want President Biden there? What's with that guy? n/t

[SheilaAnn]

[Abnredleg]

1. Biden's not popular in Ohio

and Ryan is targeting independents.

[SheilaAnn]

2. Got it, thanks. n/t

[Hortensis]

18. :) Here in GA, "See my badge?!" Walker is running against Biden,

grabbing every opportunity to say that Rev. Senator Warnock is just a Biden tool.

[femmedem]

3. He's being smart. Biden is a liability in Ohio.

Ryan does best in Ohio when he distances himself from Democratic leadership. Not only is Biden unpopular in Ohio, but it gives him credibility when he attacks Vance for sucking up to Trump.

[SCantiGOP]

5. Agree

Anyone who likes/supports Biden is going to be voting for Ryan anyway. This might peel off some independent voters who wouldn't support Biden but have doubts about Vance and Trump.

[Me.]

4. It Is True

and while it is true that Biden is not that popular in OHIO it is also true that this is the same Tim Ryan who tried to get rid of Nancy Pelose and take her place. He and Krystal Ball team up and formed a group/association that went nowhere.

[SheilaAnn]

6. Wow, trying to get rid of Pelosi was not a smart move IMO...n/t

[Me.]

8. Well, It Didn't Help Him.

[Me.]

10. Bit More On Ryan

Nancy P. showed her true leadership colors on J6. It's nigh on impossible to beat that.

“Ryan lacks the name recognition of other Democratic heavyweights in the race, despite challenging Nancy Pelosi to lead House Democrats in 2017 and again toying with the idea this year. Pelosi prevailed, but Ryan aired his frustrations with Democratic leaders after Trump won the presidency in 2016: “If you take state and federal officials, Democratic officials, we have the smallest number since Reconstruction,” he said in an interview on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.” “If that’s not a call for doing something differently, I don’t know what is.”

https://publicintegrity.org/politics/elections/presidential-profiles-2020/9-things-to-know-about-tim-ryan/

[Demsrule86]

24. It helps him in Ohio...

[Doc Sportello]

12. Who cares?

The only things that matter now are that Ryan will caucus with the Democrats and vote for Biden's agendas 90 percent of the time, Whining about something like the Pelosi dustup is just pointless.

[Me.]

13. Whining?

Telling facts is now whining?

[Doc Sportello]

16. Yes when you bring up something that is over and has no bearing on this election

He was mean to Nancy so you bring it up years later when we are trying to keep a Democratic majority in the Senate with a pickup in a red state. Sheesh. Whining is the nicest way of saying it, so be happy with that.

[Scrivener7]

20. If "whining" is the nicest way you can think to say it, perhaps you should work on your vocabulary.

[Me.]

21. Did You Not Read He Was Thinking Of It Again

and since when does the past not count? I frankly think you lack judgment and don't know what you're talking about. Having a bad day so you thought you'd take it out on a stranger? Sheesh.

[Doc Sportello]

22. Making personal attacks on me doesn't answer the question

I pointed out - factually - that worrying about something that happened years ago or might happen in the future is not good in the middle of a hotly contested race that could determine control of the senate. It is petty and counter productive. I had a fine day yesterday and today. Your personal attack on me is petty and shows you can't respond in a civil way. Which says all you need to know about whose judgment and knowledge of the subject is in question here.

[Me.]

35. That Was Not Factual But Opinion

and talk about whining

[Doc Sportello]

39. No one cares about that now

Real Democrats care about winning the senate. Except for you for some reason. Talk about a lack of judgment. I want to keep the senate and Ryan gives Dems a better chance of that than someone who is a trump humper. How can you not see that. That is a fact. No matter how much whining you do.

[Me.]

42. Yawn

[Doc Sportello]

43. Can't believe someone on here has such a lack of knowledge

Of how the senate works. Ignorance is not excuse, not in these times. Do some research on why a conservative Democrat is better than a repub. Has to do with committees, etc. Petty personal attacks and childish responses are not an answer.

[Me.]

44. Meh

[Doc Sportello]

45. What sez you wasn't available?

So you supporting JD Vance in this race? Maybe you could do his chart and the stars will tell us how it's going to come out.

[Demsrule86]

25. Would you rather have Vance who will never vote for us? Ryan is a good guy and a Democrat...

keep that in mind.

[kelly1mm]

19. So another Manchin /Sinema? Since all he has to do is caucus with the D's and vote 90% for them? nt

[Demsrule86]

26. He is not a Manchin and has supported all legislation, and allow me to remind you that AOC has voted

against Democratic legislation. And again would you rather have Vance who will caucus with the GOP win? Don't you get it...nothing matters except keeping a majority. It is the only way we get anything accomplished. And this year everything from Abortion rights to Medicare is on the line.

[Doc Sportello]

40. Better than Vance, right?

[uponit7771]

33. People who don't want another Sinema in the Senate

[Doc Sportello]

41. So Vance in there is better?

That's brilliant.

[Mike Nelson]

7. I think...

... Tim Ryan wants to win in Ohio. I hope he does! Also, this is keeping in line why Ryan's "independent" streak. Ohio Democrats may be behind this story, and they are playing to win.

[Boomerproud]

9. I don't like the campaign Ryan is conducting.

However, if that's the only way to beat Vance than that is what it is. Embarrassing to live in Ohio these days.

[LisaL]

11. My feelings exactly.

OH is a red state now.

[Demsrule86]

27. It could very well have two Democratic Senators, if all goes well. And consider when I had

qualms about Mandela Barnes in Wisconsin, I was assured that Wisconsin had a progressive history. I would not call either Wisconsin nor Ohio a red state. We lost the Governorship of Virginia during the last election...are you aware that without Ohio we must win Virginia. I do not think folks realize what dire straits we are in.

[maxsolomon]

34. I'd call both OH & WI Gerrymandered States.

and they're both filled with deeply misinformed old white people who vote.

Of course, Senator & Gov are state-wide so the Dems have a shot in those races. Congress, or State Legislatures, not so much.

Voting for the small sliver of the populace that decides elections is irrational. The reasons Biden is unpopular in OH are ghosts; RWNM fictions.

[Frasier Balzov]

14. Elizabeth Warren seems to like Ryan.

I trust her to see the good in him.

[Demsrule86]

28. He is running in Ohio. I hope it works. He was always the only one who had a shot.

[Walleye]

15. Biden has said he would campaign for somebody or against them which ever one would help them win

[Polybius]

17. Biden lost Ohio

And it wasn't particularly close either. Ryan is smart.

[budkin]

23. We need MORE Democrats like Tim Ryan tbh

I think he's a smart campaigner.

[Demsrule86]

29. Why post this less than three weeks before an election? You do understand it if Vance or Ryan?

trashing...

[SheilaAnn]

30. Calm down, was just asking a question....

[SheilaAnn]

31. TBH, I think he's going to be a problem for Dems.

[Me.]

36. Careful...You May Be Accused Of 'Whining'

[LisaL]

38. I don't think so.

NT

[jcgoldie]

47. bullshit.

"Just asking a question" in the title of a thread with no text? You were just provoking a response.

[LudwigPastorius]

32. He also said he doesn't want Biden to run for reelection in 2024.

https://www.wric.com/news/politics/tim-ryan-says-biden-shouldnt-run-in-2024/

It's hard to tell if he's distancing from the President just to win in a reddish state, or he's really some kind of DINO "Third Way" retread.

Ohio Democrats should vote for him over Vance and the rest regardless.

[LisaL]

37. Per commercials Republicans are running against him, he votes with

Biden 100 % of the time.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

48. Tim Ryan believes we need generational change in

Leadership. I agree. Believing that doesn't diminish your respect for other colleague's years of service.