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(2,682 posts)
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 12:25 PM Oct 2022

"We're a failed state now."

So said a very charming Brit we met at the airport. He was cheerful in that way that people get when they've seen it all. "PM lasted 44 days. How is that not a failed state?"

He was joking, of course. He knows they're not Somalia. OTOH, the night before, during dinner at a pub, Hubs and I watched the TV as the talking heads breathlessly discussed Truss' resignation. The looks on the faces of the locals around us. Disgust. Frustration. Hubs and I could at least feel some solidarity, given the situation in our country.
"We're a failed state now." (Original Post) shrike3 Oct 2022 OP
I Thought This Thread Would Be About America nt SoCalDavidS Oct 2022 #1
The similarities are striking. If Election Day doesn't go the way we hope. Boomerproud Oct 2022 #2
What does that make Italy? EX500rider Oct 2022 #3
I did not know that! CrispyQ Oct 2022 #4
It's kind of a feature of parliamentary style governments, not a bug... Wounded Bear Oct 2022 #5


(9,716 posts)
3. What does that make Italy?
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 12:52 PM
Oct 2022
Since the end of World War II in 1945, Italy has had 69 governments, at an average of one every 1.11 years.

Wounded Bear

(57,650 posts)
5. It's kind of a feature of parliamentary style governments, not a bug...
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 01:31 PM
Oct 2022

In parliamentary governments, it is far easier to topple the prime minister than it is for us to remove a president. Governments get dissolved and re-constituted, often with the same ministers doing a round of musical chairs. Sometimes I wish we could do it that fast, particularly during the trump years, but we're severly limited in that score.

Great Britain has been arguably more stable than, say, Italy and France. France has improved in the modern age. Between the wars in the 1920s and 30s the French government was very unstable, going through dozens of goverments.

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