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Peacetrain

(24,291 posts)
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 10:05 AM Oct 2022

I think Grassley is in the deep stuff this time!!

It is hard to carp about Biden's age and then vote for an 89 year old for the next 6 year term, even for republicans.. The party (Democratic) has not been funding our Democratic candidates so much.. they sort of just gave up.. seeming to forget that we (Iowa) put President Obama on the map!!. Last poll that I saw from the Des Moines Register has Franken down by only 3 points.. Everyone in Iowa needs to get on point and get out (which I think they will) and we will pick up a senate seat.. Not even the republicans want that snot nosed little grand kid of his (Grassley) just handed the seat.. and that is exactly what will happen if Grassley gets elected.. Momma did not raise any fools here

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I think Grassley is in the deep stuff this time!! (Original Post) Peacetrain Oct 2022 OP
The Grandson leftieNanner Oct 2022 #1
I don't think a Governor can assign a Senator. FarPoint Oct 2022 #5
I think it depends on the state. IL Dem Oct 2022 #6
It definitely depends on the State. soldierant Oct 2022 #34
Within what Rebl2 Oct 2022 #7
the rules are different according to the state. yellowdogintexas Oct 2022 #18
In Iowa a senator can be appointed until next statewide election. Sneederbunk Oct 2022 #11
It think you have it backwards leftieNanner Oct 2022 #13
Padilla's actually running twice Retrograde Oct 2022 #25
At least in MN geardaddy Oct 2022 #15
You have it backwards. The Iowa governor can appoint a senator in the event of a vacancy. rsdsharp Oct 2022 #19
Elections Are Required For Vacant House Seats... GB_RN Oct 2022 #23
Grassley is in the Senate Genki Hikari Oct 2022 #27
I Know Chuckles Is A Senator. GB_RN Oct 2022 #30
I wonder why that was not changed in the SEventeenth Amendment. soldierant Oct 2022 #35
Wrong... brooklynite Oct 2022 #38
Some of his comments and tweets leave even his supporters scratching their heads. hlthe2b Oct 2022 #2
Republicans are immune to hypocrisy OrangeJoe Oct 2022 #28
"Republicans are immune to hypocrisy" Trust_Reality Oct 2022 #36
Grassley has the magic R. Emile Oct 2022 #3
Yeah... progressoid Oct 2022 #21
Grassley II. Medieval times. We don't have royalty in America bucolic_frolic Oct 2022 #4
Tell that to the people swooning over Kennedy kin Retrograde Oct 2022 #26
last i heard... druidity33 Oct 2022 #31
Last poll I saw was within the margin of error. Going to be a close one. sarcasmo Oct 2022 #8
I hope that you are right LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2022 #9
I'm early-voting in Iowa tomorrow. Fingers crossed for this race. bullwinkle428 Oct 2022 #10
Early voted ALL DEM yesterday in Iowa Richluu Oct 2022 #12
Woohoo! progressoid Oct 2022 #22
Ha, Ha, good one. plimsoll Oct 2022 #14
True moose65 Oct 2022 #16
Wheel chair True Blue American Oct 2022 #24
That old fossil GenThePerservering Oct 2022 #41
Just finished filling out/mailing my absentee ballot and Grassley didn't win my vote. Frustratedlady Oct 2022 #17
Well, we do know that he was planning to preside over the Electoral College vote! leftieNanner Oct 2022 #20
They'd vote for a ham sandwich if it had an R in front of it. czarjak Oct 2022 #29
He is THIRD in line after Biden and Pelosi. JFC. We are so fucked. Evolve Dammit Oct 2022 #32
"He is THIRD in line after Biden and Pelosi. JFC. We are so fucked." BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 #39
I am so sorry. The succession makes Grassley #4. I was misled by another article. Evolve Dammit Oct 2022 #40
.... BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 #42
The poll (Selzer) that has this race as a statistical tie is a highly respected poll Sogo Oct 2022 #33
Moscow Mitch is 80. Nt Mr.Mystery Oct 2022 #37

leftieNanner

(16,162 posts)
1. The Grandson
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 10:10 AM
Oct 2022

I have always figured that Chuck would get reelected, retire a few months out, and get the governor to appoint another Grassley to the seat

FarPoint

(14,891 posts)
5. I don't think a Governor can assign a Senator.
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 10:27 AM
Oct 2022

My understanding Senators require an election..special in this case ..I do believe they can assign a Congressman then have a special election...I could be wrong.

IL Dem

(890 posts)
6. I think it depends on the state.
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 10:33 AM
Oct 2022

IIRC, Blagojevich was convicted of trying to sell Obama's seat in ILto finish out his term when he was running for president.

soldierant

(9,360 posts)
34. It definitely depends on the State.
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 10:00 PM
Oct 2022

Each state has its own rules about who appoints a Senate (or House) replacement. I believe some states allow the Senator's (Representative's) party to make tha call. In those states, the parties don't even need to have the same criterion.

Sneederbunk

(17,560 posts)
11. In Iowa a senator can be appointed until next statewide election.
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 10:46 AM
Oct 2022

This gives appointee a leg up.

leftieNanner

(16,162 posts)
13. It think you have it backwards
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 10:48 AM
Oct 2022

Governor can appoint a Senator, but then the person has to run in the next election. House members have a special election.

Gavin Newsom appointed VP Harris's replacement (Padilla) and now he is running next month.

Retrograde

(11,431 posts)
25. Padilla's actually running twice
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 02:09 PM
Oct 2022

once to be formally elected to fill the rest of Harris's term (which ends on January 3) and once for the seat in his own right. I'd have thought Padilla winning the first in last June's primary was enough but the law apparently specifies that the seat has to be filled in the next general election - and we only have those every two years as a rule.

geardaddy

(25,392 posts)
15. At least in MN
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 11:07 AM
Oct 2022

Governors appoint Senators to open seats, but we require a special election for members of Congress.

rsdsharp

(12,059 posts)
19. You have it backwards. The Iowa governor can appoint a senator in the event of a vacancy.
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 12:05 PM
Oct 2022

It’s expected that if Grassley resigns, Reynolds will appoint his grandson, Pat Grassley — Speaker of the Iowa House. It is possible, however, that Reynolds would appoint herself.

GB_RN

(3,574 posts)
23. Elections Are Required For Vacant House Seats...
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 12:31 PM
Oct 2022

Per the Constitution. No one can be appointed to fill a vacancy, not even as an interim until an election. The timing of the election is up to state law, however. Gov. Ron DeathSentence used this to deny a Democratic district representation for most of a year.

There is no similar requirement for vacant Senate seats, so it’s up to state law as to how they are filled.

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
27. Grassley is in the Senate
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 05:27 PM
Oct 2022

Different rules:

Unlike vacancies in the U.S. House of Representatives, which are required by law to be filled by elections, the U.S. Constitution allows states to choose how to fill vacancies in the U.S. Senate. All states do so through elections, but they vary in two ways: whether the vacancy is filled at a regularly scheduled election or at a special election; and whether the governor can make an appointment to fill the vacancy during the period before the election occurs.


https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/vacancies-in-the-united-states-senate637302453.aspx

Iowa is one of the states where the governor selects a replacement to serve until the end of the term for that seat, in this case until 2028, should Grassley win and then either kick the bucket or resign.

soldierant

(9,360 posts)
35. I wonder why that was not changed in the SEventeenth Amendment.
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 10:04 PM
Oct 2022

They must not have thought it through.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
38. Wrong...
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 09:55 AM
Oct 2022

A Congressperson can NEVER be appointed. The seat remains vacant until a special election is held.

A Senator can be replaced by the Governor (or other designated official) until the next Federal Election or (if State Law requires it) an intermediate special election.

https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/vacancies-in-the-united-states-senate637302453.aspx

hlthe2b

(114,224 posts)
2. Some of his comments and tweets leave even his supporters scratching their heads.
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 10:11 AM
Oct 2022

They can lie and exaggerate all they want about Biden, but Grassley's behavior can't be ignored. Not to mention if they are concerned about age he is a full 10 years older than Biden.

I hope you are right.

OrangeJoe

(560 posts)
28. Republicans are immune to hypocrisy
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 05:41 PM
Oct 2022

Republicans have absolutely no problem ragging on Biden for being too old and then immediately turning around and pulling the lever for Grassley or any other old p.o.s. that has an R after their name. Surely you know that, but your wishful thinking is kind of sweet, naive as hell, but sweet.

progressoid

(53,268 posts)
21. Yeah...
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 12:18 PM
Oct 2022

even though his numbers are terrible (no body wanted him to run again, even in the GOP) he'll still get lots of votes just because of the R.

I hope we get a Kansas like turn-out and put him out to pasture.

bucolic_frolic

(55,454 posts)
4. Grassley II. Medieval times. We don't have royalty in America
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 10:19 AM
Oct 2022

but King Chuck comes closest, getting an appointment for his son. One piddler after another.

Retrograde

(11,431 posts)
26. Tell that to the people swooning over Kennedy kin
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 02:13 PM
Oct 2022

We've had political dynasties in the past: Adams, Roosevelt, Bush, not to mention the numerous scions of senators and congressmen. When I lived in Dutchess county, NY, we used to joke that Hamilton Fish IV held the hereditary House seat for that district.

Richluu

(155 posts)
12. Early voted ALL DEM yesterday in Iowa
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 10:48 AM
Oct 2022

My husband and I walked to the courthouse in our little town, and did it!

plimsoll

(1,690 posts)
14. Ha, Ha, good one.
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 10:51 AM
Oct 2022

Here are the rules. If an older Democrat is running the GOP will push for Term Limits(tm). If an older Republican is running the GOP pushes Seniority. Strom Thermond was still drawing his Civil War pension there at the end wasn't he? Honestly I think GOP run states would wheel the coffins into the Senate if they kept the power, so mental health or age is really irrelevant for a Republican. And I'm sure the GOP will gladly hand the Grandson important positions well beyond his seniority* simply because he's a legacy. They're all about the unearned privilege.
*I started to say ability, but made myself laugh.

moose65

(3,458 posts)
16. True
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 11:12 AM
Oct 2022

If I remember correctly, Thurmond was either wheeled in in a wheelchair there at the end, or he had one or two aides who were always with him and held his arms while he walked into the Senate chamber. It was kinda sad and infuriating at the same time!

GenThePerservering

(3,514 posts)
41. That old fossil
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 08:36 PM
Oct 2022

groped our Sen. Patty Murray in an elevator - I guess his favourite hit spot. Disgusting old fool.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
17. Just finished filling out/mailing my absentee ballot and Grassley didn't win my vote.
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 11:21 AM
Oct 2022

I am thoroughly disgusted with him in many ways. I also think he isn't earning his salary. I can count on both hands the number of times I've seen him do anything.

leftieNanner

(16,162 posts)
20. Well, we do know that he was planning to preside over the Electoral College vote!
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 12:16 PM
Oct 2022

He stated that he did not expect Mike Pence to be there on January 6th.

He was in on the coup. Wish somebody would point this out and ask him about it. He would lie and obfuscate, but it would still be worth asking.

BumRushDaShow

(170,813 posts)
39. "He is THIRD in line after Biden and Pelosi. JFC. We are so fucked."
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 11:53 AM
Oct 2022

I know sometimes black folk are "invisible" but....



He is THIRD in line after Harris and Pelosi


Fixed.

Sogo

(7,242 posts)
33. The poll (Selzer) that has this race as a statistical tie is a highly respected poll
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 08:39 PM
Oct 2022

and one that is usually very accurate.

Grassley’s Dem opponent is from Northwest Iowa, the reddest part of the state. Here’s hoping that shaves off some of the otherwise red votes for Grassley.

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