Does Tim Ryan fit in the Democratic Party?

[kentuck]

I have always considered him a blue collar Democrat looking out for the interests of the average working people but he seems to be out of step with a lot of Democrats these days.

He was criticized for not wanting or needing Joe Biden to come to Ohio to campaign with him. He knows that Joe Biden is not that popular in Ohio at this time and it would only be a drag on his campaign. Is that "anti-Democratic"?

On some issues, he is considered more "moderate" or conservative than the average Democrat.

However, the Republican Party in Ohio is trying to connect him to the Democrats in Washington and that is probably the reason that his opponent is so close to him in his race?

The reality is that he is much closer to the voters of Ohio than JD Vance will ever be. JD Vance is a grifter that got his start by ridiculing and criticizing his Appalachian ancestors from Kentucky in his book, and the right-wingers ate it up. He probably isn't saying much about his ancestors nowadays since a huge part of Ohio is made up of people from Appalachia.

Hopefully, the voters will see both candidates for what they truly are before election day.

[gab13by13]

1. Absolutely, if that's what it takes to win.

A foot back in the door in Ohio. Yuuge.

[spooky3]

2. His voting record is strongly Dem. He is messaging in a way that

Is very different from how he might do it in a bluer state. I think he’s doing well given that Mitch and friends have dumped lots of money in Ohio, and I wish the DSC would help him with more $.

[obnoxiousdrunk]

3. Yes.

It's a big tent.

[Zambero]

4. Consider "Senator J.D. Vance"

Yes.

[33taw]

5. I welcome him. Why would we exclude him? We aren't purists or elitists.

[In It to Win It]

6. Yes

[FBaggins]

7. Far better than the alternative does

[NewJeffCT]

8. He's no Joe Manchin

or Kristen Synema. That said, if he votes with Biden & Schumer 80-85% of the time, that's a helluva better than JD Vance voting against Biden & Schumer 100% of the time.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

9. The Democratic Party is a big tent party

I have no issues with moderate Democrats being in the party

[PatSeg]

15. Apparently, Ryan is the right Democrat

for the voters of Ohio. He definitely has a good message for the working class voters of his state. He was great in his debate with Vance. I still have some mixed feelings about him after he challenged Nancy Pelosi for Speaker, as well as saying Biden shouldn't run for reelection. I do understand why he said that about Biden and realize it could help him win votes, but a part of me still cringes.

Yes, the Democratic party IS a big tent party and we should not expect all to march in lockstep with one another, as long as one is not undercutting the overall success of the party and as such, helping the opposition.

[SlimJimmy]

18. That really depends on where you're located.

In Georgia, moderate Dems, like myself, are welcomed with open arms. In some of the more liberal states, it's quite the opposite. When I traveled to NY last year, and told folks that I was a more moderate Dem, they weren't exactly friendly.

[Claustrum]

10. All elections are local.

If it works in OH, then that's what he should do. If he can connect to voters in his state (that is more right-leaning), that's all that matters. Biden or democrats aren't popular in every locale. I believe his campaign and he himself knows better than most of us.

As much as I disagree with Manchin and hate what he did, he gets to be a democratic senator from a deep red state. That means he is doing something right, even if what he does isn't always following democrats or democratic priorities.

So in this crucial time that we need to keep the senate (and hopefully the house), I leave it to the campaigns (as I assume they know better or at least should know better) of what their constituents want to hear. We can leave the criticism after they get into office rather than criticizing and undermining them before they get elected. Afterall, a democratic representative is about a thousand times more likely to hear from us than a republican one.

[bottomofthehill]

11. Tim Ryan is the Democratic Party

He does not fit well here as a populist, but he is exactly what the Party needs. Dont forget, we here are the fringe of the party, a fringe I am a comfortable part of. If the question is does Tim Ryan fit on DU, I would say yes, but the Democratic Party, Absolutely.

[Wounded Bear]

12. Short answer is "yes"....nt

[Demsrule86]

13. Why would you even post this? He is completely in step with a big tent Democratic

Party. And unless we want permanent minority status, we need to run more like him. Tim Ryan is a great guy and I remind you Trump won Ohio easily. As for some in the Democratic Party, perhaps they are out of step with what it will take to gain and hold a good-sized Democratic majority in this country which I am sad to say is not particularly progressive at the moment. Do you think we could run AOC in Arizona, Ohio or Michigan? I don't say this because I dislike her, she is very talented but will win in a deep blue district, not a purple one.

Ryan is part of the big tent. We need everybody. So I say to those who say he is out of step with Democrats...he works hard and always has to help his constituents. He has brought jobs to Ohio, worked to hold GM accountable when they broke the contract by closing Lordstown GM (some serious cash involved), worked with Biden on the infrastructure and chips bill, and worked tirelessly to help Delphi retirees...so yeah he is a Democrat and belongs in this party. I consider an OP like this two weeks before a must-win midterm completely unnecessary and not helpful. Perhaps those whom you think represent the Democratic Party are out of step. I will remind you that without the rust-belt, there is no path to the presidency or a Sente majority as we speak.

[halfulglas]

14. Of course he fits in the Democratic party!!

In this current political world where the MAGAts and the party of the American Oligarchs with their slick messaging that steals Dem messages and virtues and twists them and Harvard and Yale educated politicians who contrive to sound like bumpkins he is proof that it's not the Dems who are elitist. We are still the party of FDR who brought electricity to the South. No matter how conservative a Democrat he seems, he is actually more moderate than conservative. Joe Biden is smart in letting the candidates who want to speak for themselves do so and give help to those who want it.

[Hope22]

16. Ohio voters...you can't out think them.

While at a doctors appointment my doc asked me what is wrong with people these days. I told her I thought it could be stupidity. She looked me square in the eye and asked if it could be inbreeding. This is a woman who thought I was panicking over GWB back in the day. She finally is seeing the light.
As far as Ryan goes, he bends over backwards to relate to the brainwashed right wingers hoping to get enough to clear the bar. Sometimes I drop the campaign a reminder for him to speak to the rest of us from time to time. He tries to find the balance. I can’t fault him for not hosting Biden here. The president shouldn’t take it personally. People in this state are just too backward and frankly with our large number of 1/6 participants the president isn’t safe here.

[blueinredohio]

17. I agree totally with the "backward" remark

and I would also like to add small minded.