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BeyondGeography

(39,351 posts)
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 11:46 AM Oct 2022

Two signers of Jayapal's appeasement letter are backing away from it

Pocan and Jacobs:


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To make matters even worse, Jayapal incredibly (or is it appallingly) held this event at the very moment Speaker Pelosi was at a conference in Zagreb on Ukraine and Crimea answering questions about Kevin McCarthy’s “blank check” quote and reaffirming US commitment to Ukraine. This is either terribly inept or shockingly disloyal, take your pick.

Jayapal apparently has designs on a leadership position post-Midterm. Her ambitions are going up in flames—or at least they should be.
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Two signers of Jayapal's appeasement letter are backing away from it (Original Post) BeyondGeography Oct 2022 OP
After this stunt, Jayapal will not end up in leadership...very bad judgement on her part. Demsrule86 Oct 2022 #1
I usually adore her but this suggestion of appeasing Russia was a horrible idea that r/o SoBlueInFL Oct 2022 #2
Ironically, the people who are upfront and ahead of the pack usually don't get to lead ... marble falls Oct 2022 #12
The timing was awful...just before the midterm. Demsrule86 Oct 2022 #17
And at a point the bear seems to rolling downhill to a defeat. Trying to negotiate with someone ... marble falls Oct 2022 #22
Put this letter in the What Were They Thinking File. Stunningly bad politics Raven123 Oct 2022 #3
I hope that someone will explain the timing of the release of this document. greatauntoftriplets Oct 2022 #4
+1000 Celerity Oct 2022 #8
yes, the whole thing looks like a massive Jayapal clusterfuck that took a 4 month old, now out of Celerity Oct 2022 #5
+1 chowder66 Oct 2022 #11
She has been so sure footed in the past, and good at messaging... Tom Rinaldo Oct 2022 #6
completely agree Celerity Oct 2022 #9
I have to wonder if she thought better of the whole idea and never intended to release this letter Tom Rinaldo Oct 2022 #15
She laughed on stage when Bernie fans booed Hillary. LisaM Oct 2022 #19
I forgot that. In my mind this is the first major squad mis-step and it's a doozy and not in a ... marble falls Oct 2022 #24
It is a doozy. LisaM Oct 2022 #28
People should really pay more attention to these Justice Democrats politicians. betsuni Oct 2022 #29
It seems suspect that something they put together in June/July is released now. herding cats Oct 2022 #7
Very scammy-feeling. Scrivener7 Oct 2022 #20
No excuse is valid. You don't undercut President Biden on this. Very disappointed JohnSJ Oct 2022 #10
Absolutely agree! SheltieLover Oct 2022 #13
+100 Absolutely bronxiteforever Oct 2022 #25
So the people who signed onto this... Takket Oct 2022 #14
+1 Celerity Oct 2022 #16
My daughter gets sick of MSNBC being on every evening but will always stop and watch Pramila Jayapal renate Oct 2022 #18
When she first ran after McDermott retired... LisaM Oct 2022 #21
Kissinger wanted Ukraine negotiating, that's how you know negotiating with Putin is wrong. sarcasmo Oct 2022 #23
Boneheaded. Wingus Dingus Oct 2022 #26
"You cannot reason with a tiger..." The Unmitigated Gall Oct 2022 #27

SoBlueInFL

(191 posts)
2. I usually adore her but this suggestion of appeasing Russia was a horrible idea that r/o
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 11:51 AM
Oct 2022

will stick in my craw for a long time.

marble falls

(57,013 posts)
12. Ironically, the people who are upfront and ahead of the pack usually don't get to lead ...
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 12:07 PM
Oct 2022

... and this is why.

It was a very bad move.

marble falls

(57,013 posts)
22. And at a point the bear seems to rolling downhill to a defeat. Trying to negotiate with someone ...
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 12:20 PM
Oct 2022

... is a waste of time when Russia has no negotiation strategy past a list of non negotiable demands.

All this "peace" initiative is going to accomplish is encouragement to the Bear.

greatauntoftriplets

(175,729 posts)
4. I hope that someone will explain the timing of the release of this document.
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 11:52 AM
Oct 2022

If it sat for nearly four months, why now?

Celerity

(43,133 posts)
5. yes, the whole thing looks like a massive Jayapal clusterfuck that took a 4 month old, now out of
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 11:56 AM
Oct 2022

date letter and completely sand-bagged the other 29 signers by releasing it now without any consultations.

What a stupid move by a politician I thought was FAR more aware and shrewd.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
6. She has been so sure footed in the past, and good at messaging...
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 11:57 AM
Oct 2022

Not this time. May this be the worst mistake she makes in Congress, it's pretty damn bad. I'll get past it in time if she returns to her former form, I hope she can too, but for now I am really disappointed, and that is the mild way of putting it.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
15. I have to wonder if she thought better of the whole idea and never intended to release this letter
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 12:12 PM
Oct 2022

It is very odd that it was supposedly signed in July but word of it only got out now. I don't know if she is the one who "released" it now, could be, but if so I can't help but think maybe someone else was about to "out it" so she decided to get out in front of it. Either way it is bad on and bad for her and the other signers. The letter is real even if they did get cold feet about going public with it. If she was trying to move into House leadership a rival could have been behind the release of the letter now. This was all the ammunition they needed to trip her up if that's the case, and she provided it on a silver platter for them.

LisaM

(27,794 posts)
19. She laughed on stage when Bernie fans booed Hillary.
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 12:14 PM
Oct 2022

It was at some event with the "squad" back in, I think, 2020. She's my rep, and it annoyed me excessively, and I had the phone in my hand about ten times ready to call her office but decided to stand down.

marble falls

(57,013 posts)
24. I forgot that. In my mind this is the first major squad mis-step and it's a doozy and not in a ...
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 12:23 PM
Oct 2022

... any sort of a good way.

LisaM

(27,794 posts)
28. It is a doozy.
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 12:33 PM
Oct 2022

But I still bristle when I think of the squad up there on stage laughing while Hillary was booed. Are they Democrats of convenience only? I would hate to think that, but....

betsuni

(25,380 posts)
29. People should really pay more attention to these Justice Democrats politicians.
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 12:42 PM
Oct 2022

They have their own goals.

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
7. It seems suspect that something they put together in June/July is released now.
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 11:57 AM
Oct 2022

I would have opposed it then also, but the reality is the optics now are much worse.

Putin would love to hit a pause button and come back out refreshed and restocked in March. Anyone paying the slightest bit of attention to the war can see that.

Scrivener7

(50,918 posts)
20. Very scammy-feeling.
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 12:18 PM
Oct 2022

I wish my representative would back away from it. I'll vote for him because he's the Democrat, but he's quite a disappointment.

Takket

(21,529 posts)
14. So the people who signed onto this...
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 12:07 PM
Oct 2022

Did It months ago and don’t even know why it went out now. So Jayapal just hung all those people out to dry to answer questions about this right before the election.

Jayapal and anyone else responsible for releasing this need to be hauled into the Oval Office for a thorough tongue lashing from Biden and Pelosi.

renate

(13,776 posts)
18. My daughter gets sick of MSNBC being on every evening but will always stop and watch Pramila Jayapal
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 12:13 PM
Oct 2022

My daughter is super politically aware and into social and economic justice, etc, and is very picky about who she likes. I always loved watching her too... she just looks and sounds so kind, intelligent, and caring.

So this is just incredibly incredibly disappointing.

LisaM

(27,794 posts)
21. When she first ran after McDermott retired...
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 12:19 PM
Oct 2022

Her primary opponent was Brady Walkinshaw, a local environmentalist from a somewhat prominent local family. I really liked him, and voted for him, but one thing that bothered me at the time was that Jayapal essentially accused him of being anti-feminist because he ran against a woman. It's one of the little things about her that bugs me, even though in general I am satisfied with her as my representative.

This misstep needs some explanation, though.

The Unmitigated Gall

(3,786 posts)
27. "You cannot reason with a tiger..."
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 12:29 PM
Oct 2022

“When your head is in its mouth”
Churchill’s admonishment was as valid in June, when the orcs were still taking bites out of Ukraine’s sovereign land as it is now, when they are terrorizing the civilian population and threatening nuclear devastation, again against the civilian population and infrastructure. Jayapal’s letter was as spectacularly bad then as it is today.

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