tiedrich tweet: holy fucking shit, there was another school shooting yesterday and it barely made a

[orleans]

holy fucking shit, there was another school shooting yesterday and it barely made a ripple in the news. what the fuck have we become as a nation

Link to tweet

[Arkansas Granny]

1. Mass shootings are becoming commonplace. Meanwhile, Texas is issuing DNA kits to students

so they can be identified in the case of a school shooting. Something is dreadfully wrong.

[forgotmylogin]

19. Yeah. My neck of the woods.

I suspect it didn't breach national news significantly because only two people and the shooter were killed so far that I know of. I haven't heard details but it almost sounds like it could have been a targeted personal thing with bystander casualty injuries as opposed to someone just galumphing in specifically to kill as many children as possible.

It also sounds like the police took the shooter out quick so they wouldn't have another Uvalde situation. It possibly could have developed into an extended school shooting but was put down fast. Not really a silver lining in this at all.

[FoxNewsSucks]

31. That's the take I got from hearing a little of the interview

with whoever was in charge. Repeated mention of "we went right in" "no meeting in the parking lot" etc.

Without saying the words "we're not Uvalde", they made it clear.

[Evolve Dammit]

51. only two.... This is so fucked up.

[NullTuples]

38. 559 mass shootings so far in 2022. Today is the 298th day of the year.

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting

[TigressDem]

49. Yesterday? Try TODAY - 17 year old kills family member wounds 2 others Minnesota

Last edited Tue Oct 25, 2022, 09:38 PM - Edit history (1)

https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/video/roseville-police-update-on-homicide-suspect-taken-into-custody/



Sorry, when I looked this up this morning, it gave me information on another shooting. This guy took out his family with a baseball bat and a knife. My mistake



https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/emergency-alert-issued-in-twin-cities-for-17-year-old-murder-suspect


A 17-year-old murder suspect is in custody late Tuesday morning, approximately 45 minutes after authorities in Roseville ordered a shelter-in-place amid the search.

The emergency alert blared on cell phones in St. Paul and elsewhere in the Twin Cities around 10:50 a.m., describing the suspect as a 17-year-old white male.

[OldBaldy1701E]

50. Yep.

Had to delay some running around because of it. My cell phone blared a few times with updates and then we got the all clear. It was while watching that coverage that I learned about what happened yesterday in St. Louis Park.

I did not know any of the people who were killed in Raleigh but two friends of mine lost people they knew. I am still kind of stunned about all of them. I suspected that some degradation of society was going to happen as this culture learned to deal with the fact that everything is instant these days. No time to reflect on your responses, no ability to pass on nuance because it is all technical and distant. So, we get insanity because people are not aware of each other's humanity. Ask any vet here, shooting someone when they are standing right in front of you is normally impossible for a human because you can see the other human's life right there. Our society has become so non-connected that we don't see each other as humans anymore. We are just objects, or useful rubes, or THE ENEMY!

And some people wonder why I am so cynical about everything these days.

[Wicked Blue]

2. TV announcer: "Now it's time for our daily roundup of school shootings around the nation." nt

[sop]

3. The shooting didn't meet the required minimum number of students killed.

[Erik the UNred]

35. Right

Single-digit body count.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

4. We have had our government deliberately paralyzed in this area by extremists.

[orleans]

5. article link

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/st-louis-school-gunman-left-note-describing-lonely-life-perfect-storm-for-mass-shooting/article_607b33cc-2402-55a7-94c9-f0c2214bec5c.html

[ShazzieB]

45. Thanks for this link.

I had not heard about this and didn't have enough info to google.

The fact that it happened at a visual and performing arts school makes the whole thing even more disturbing to me, because it raises the spectre of homophobia playing a possible role.

I'm glad he was stopped quickly, but 2 is 2 too many.

[unc70]

6. Non-school mass shootings not getting coverage either

The recent killing of five in Raleigh by a 15 yo shooter received relatively little news coverage. Barely any nationally; fairly restrained even in the Raleigh area.

Part of that was certainly because of the limited news conferences by local authorities.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

7. I got numerous alerts and links to articles about it throughout the day

Maybe Tiedrich should pay more attention to MSM.

[dsc]

9. but if this happened in literally any other developed country it would have been front page news

due to its relative rarity.

[Treefrog]

17. Same here.

[SergeStorms]

40. I didn't see anything on the news or MSNBC....

so I guess I should stay glued to MSM all day? The only way I learned anything about it was here on DU.

Suffice to say, it got very little coverage. Like someone else said, single digit body counts hardly make a ripple anymore.

This is one sick country.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

42. Google has four pages of links to news stories from the past 24 hours

Including such obscure outlets as USA Today, The Guardian, CNN, BBC, Reuters, NBC, CBS.
Don't blame the media if you aren't paying attention.

[SergeStorms]

48. Well....

it appears you have to be right, so I bow to your superior news hawk abilities. I'm not worthy.

[hlthe2b]

8. First thing I thought of when I woke up this morning... as I'd waited all day for any degree of

major reporting on it and nada. We really are at peak insanity as a nation. sigh...

[TheRealNorth]

10. MSM is too busy with"Democrsts in Disarray" or "Surging Red Tide" narrative

To report on crime, unless it hurts Democrats.

[Meadowoak]

11. +1

[ecstatic]

56. +1000. nt

[sarisataka]

12. It was one of the top stories

On national and local news yesterday. At this moment it is still in the top stories list on the national news sites I checked

I'd say it has been more than barely a ripple

[AZSkiffyGeek]

14. My experience is that whenever anyone says "Why isn't the MSM covering this?"

A google search will show that they are, in fact, covering it. The general public may overlook it, but I expect pundits to be able to find it as well. Maybe Twitter pundits don't count?

[Lucky Luciano]

54. Being well covered means you don't have to search for it. It will just be in your face.

I saw it on LBN here and that’s how I knew. Without that LBN blurb I would not have known since I don’t watch any tv news. I come here for the news.

Searching for this shooting on google, of course, means you already knew about it.

[blueinredohio]

13. We have to make sure everyone knows what Trump is doing or saying.

That's way more important than school shootings.

[Hope22]

15. What have we become.....

[Treefrog]

16. I saw it on the news and heard it on the radio.

It was on DU too. Until it wasn't.

Hmm.

[sarisataka]

23. I believe there are two reasons for this

One reason has to do with the victims, the other has to do with the shooter.

Both relate to an established narrative and the reasons not fitting.

[Treefrog]

30. I agree.

100%

[lees1975]

18. In red state gun totin' Missouri

where the Republican politicians breathed a sigh of relief and said, "thank God it wasn't at my kid's school."

[calimary]

20. ... until it IS.

And we get closer to that moment as we continue to do nothing about it.

[SWBTATTReg]

21. Not that I'm making any fun of any shootings, but we have this many shootings over a weekend in the

northern part of STL city, north country every weekend. That's why it's not stirring things up.

[ananda]

22. I'll tell you what: this nation is psychopathic ..

and fascist to its core.

[barbtries]

26. sick.

we are a sick nation.

[ananda]

27. Mentally and physically.

I sure would like to see a recovery, though.

[barbtries]

33. me too.

but until the abuse of the 1st Amendment is curbed, in other words as long as the right wing can continue spreading lies and misinformation and brainwashing millions of people to the point that they cannot distinguish between democracy and fascism - as long as republicans have power AND the media with their maddening both-siderism, i have little hope.

i have effectively lost family members and lifelong friends to this rot. but it's not even that bad for me. Our only hope is the young generations and they are essentially all I fear for. The dumbing down proceeds apace. I feel helpless no matter how often I vote or how vigorously I advocate.

just to add I'm not always this hopeless. not a good day today.

[ananda]

44. Me too.

My whole Texas side of the family is lost.

Thank God my mother was from California.

[barbtries]

46. that's kinda funny.

my father, the Democrat, was from Texas. My mother, who if alive would probably be full on Q, born and raised in LA. My oldest brother is the one I am estranged from although we've never formalized the estrangement. We're all from California. I'm as liberal as they come just about, but the city I came from (Torrance) is so racist they refused highway funds from the feds so they wouldn't have to hire Black people as police officers. The city my son lives in now (El Segundo), was a sundown town. He's as liberal as I am, but his kids go to school with children whose parents are...not.

I love that my home state is a blue state, but it's also a very heavily populated state, and there are large pockets of horrifying there too. Just as there are wonderful liberal Democrats in TX who can't seem to muster the numbers to turn it purple let alone blue.

This is why I wonder how a civil war could play out here. Most of us all live together in the same place. At the same time we are so polarized that it is overwhelming.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

52. Do you mean abuse of the 2nd Amendment?

[sop]

57. Abuse of the First Amendment.

The First Amendment has been weaponized by many on the right, and it's being used to destroy our democracy.

[barbtries]

60. no. although that is real.

i meant abuse of the 1st Amendment. Freedom of Speech. Religious Freedom. Abuse of those rights.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

64. Shooting people is Freedom of Speech? Religious Freedom?

I'm missing something here.

[barbtries]

65. yes, you are.

i would refer you to the Alex Jones debacle.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

66. The actual shooting of people is not a 1st amendment thing.

Lying about it might possibly be.

[barbtries]

67. you're so off base.

the 2nd amendment is separate entirely from what i mean when i say abuse of the First Amendment. I don't have the time to continue this conversation or the energy at the moment.

[Cosmocat]

59. You have nailed it

This is the issue in a nutshell, and I have watched my whole entire adult life, from the mid 80s on, as it slowly at first, now exponentially faster, has unwound.

I just don't get how SO many otherwise decent people can get sucked into it ...

But, it is pretty clear we are well into the death spiral at this point. Not turning back. It is just a mater of how bad it gets.

[Lonestarblue]

24. Republicans worship guns and fetal cells, while claiming to be pro life.

That’s quite a dichotomy. They don’t care how many children get murdered, but throw tantrums when a woman wants or needs an abortion.

[catbyte]

25. Not enough carnage.

[TeamProg]

28. This IS what we've become!

[dlk]

29. Mass shooting of the day...

Welcome to Republican world.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

32. Why, would something have happened if it got more coverage than it did?

[Tetrachloride]

34. In my job 4 years ago, a co-worker said the media coverage encourages copycats.

Given that the media goes for quick headlines, snappy soundbites and faces of concern, ....

On my cynical days, I presume that there is no solution that at this time the media would go for voluntarily.

[Jimbo S]

37. My understanding that after 9/11

the frequency of mass shooting decreased due to media attention of 9/11, squeezing out opportunities for perpetrators to make a name for themselves.

[NewHendoLib]

36. We are now a shithole country.

[sprinkleeninow]

39. I nearly just posted the same sentiment.

😪

[NewHendoLib]

41. It's tragic - didn't have to be like this. Catalyzed by TFG.

I don't see a good way forward.

[SunSeeker]

43. K & R & Retweeted!

[Rhiannon12866]

47. Twitter replies:

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[Cha]

53. The US Media$$$$$ has been

an Enemy to our Nation for a long time now..

[ismnotwasm]

55. Two nurses were shot dead in a hospital in Dallas

In an L&D unit. Didn’t even make a blip.

[GoCubsGo]

58. It was the top story on every broadcast network newscast yesterday.

Don't know what he's watching.

[kentuck]

61. It's not considered a "crime"..

It is just "incidental" violence.

[Ferrets are Cool]

62. Shit-hole country??

[Laura PourMeADrink]

63. And post doesn't even say where it was. Weirdly ironic