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wnylib

(22,861 posts)
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 02:06 PM Oct 2022

NPR news is leaning heavily into criticism

of Fetterman in last night's debate, saying that Democrats are reassessing their ability to win in PA due to Fetterman's "obvious" difficulty in speaking. They sounded so upbeat in reporting on this that I half expected to hear the report end with "Yay Oz."

What are other media saying?


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NPR news is leaning heavily into criticism (Original Post) wnylib Oct 2022 OP
npr news is a sad decayed corpse of what it once was...... getagrip_already Oct 2022 #1
Agree. I only listen because my local stations are wnylib Oct 2022 #11
They really started to slide during the Bush 2 years Mad_Machine76 Oct 2022 #17
NPR has been pushing the red wave sweep for two goddamn The_Casual_Observer Oct 2022 #2
NPR predicated a 2022 GOP landslide before Biden had finished his inauguration speech Orrex Oct 2022 #3
NPR is now MAGA...I used to listen all the time...now I never do. Demsrule86 Oct 2022 #5
Their long-format programming is still terrific Orrex Oct 2022 #37
One could make that prediction about any off season election iemanja Oct 2022 #25
One could, but why the fuck would one? Orrex Oct 2022 #36
But Oz's inclusion of state legislators in a person's health care decisions gets a full pass gratuitous Oct 2022 #4
They are not alone so is MSNBC and CNN. doc03 Oct 2022 #6
Oz wants politicians to lord over my life, that's what I heard. onecaliberal Oct 2022 #7
What a bullshit thread. Just A Box Of Rain Oct 2022 #8
Not anymore. Patterson Oct 2022 #10
Dead wrong. Just A Box Of Rain Oct 2022 #12
What a BS post. NPR's corporate sponsors wnylib Oct 2022 #18
Ridiculous nonsense. Just A Box Of Rain Oct 2022 #19
I listen so often that I have the schedule of wnylib Oct 2022 #20
My ears are open. NPR reporting is world class. Just A Box Of Rain Oct 2022 #21
Go back and look at my edit comment. wnylib Oct 2022 #22
Agree. Treefrog Oct 2022 #29
You seem not to have listened to it for the past 15 years or so Orrex Oct 2022 #38
Dead wrong. I listen daily. Just A Box Of Rain Oct 2022 #39
LOL Not the flagship programs Orrex Oct 2022 #40
Trying to impress? Are you kidding here??? Just A Box Of Rain Oct 2022 #41
That sure was a lot of words to say that you can't back up your claims Orrex Oct 2022 #42
Nah, you just make up instituting and untrue accusations Just A Box Of Rain Oct 2022 #43
No, that's not it Orrex Oct 2022 #46
My nonsense? Just A Box Of Rain Oct 2022 #48
So, no NPR, no CNN, no MSNBC, no Washington Post, no New York Times... brooklynite Oct 2022 #9
Common Dreams, Young Turks? LOL Just A Box Of Rain Oct 2022 #13
This for starters (besides DU of course): Geechie Oct 2022 #16
No New York, No California, No Texas... brooklynite Oct 2022 #47
True, but several of the locals have national correspondents and Geechie Oct 2022 #49
I know, right? BlueCheeseAgain Oct 2022 #23
trolls are heavy on twitter today. mopinko Oct 2022 #14
Does anyone have a contact address of them? Patterson Oct 2022 #15
Good d_b Oct 2022 #24
I stopped taking them seriously when Cokie Roberts was fellating Bush Jr every day. Coventina Oct 2022 #26
I have not donated to them for 5 years but wnylib Oct 2022 #31
Same here. llmart Oct 2022 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author iemanja Oct 2022 #27
Have you read any threads about the debate from last night? Treefrog Oct 2022 #28
I read a newspaper article about the debate. wnylib Oct 2022 #30
So you didn't read any of the posts here on DU? Treefrog Oct 2022 #32
Yes, I have read threads here. Go back to my PS addition (#33) wnylib Oct 2022 #34
PS. Yes, I have read threads here and have wnylib Oct 2022 #33
I am all for media criticism on this site senseandsensibility Oct 2022 #35
They've been right wing for decades now Genki Hikari Oct 2022 #44

getagrip_already

(15,738 posts)
1. npr news is a sad decayed corpse of what it once was......
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 02:16 PM
Oct 2022

It is decidedly right wing in many of it's pieces. while the longer coverage pieces tend to be more netral, the news pieces are very lopsided, or at least they were when I stopped listening.

There is still some good analysis, but sadly, the news is as bad as any right wing rag.

wnylib

(22,861 posts)
11. Agree. I only listen because my local stations are
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 02:45 PM
Oct 2022

right wing. I get NPR from Buffalo.

They do, at least, consistently agree that the claim that Trump won in 2020 is the Big Lie and they do call J6 am insurrection. But they also favor establishment Republicans in many of their programs. On Point, with Mehgna Ckakrabardi, is the worst. She attacks Dems openly, or with snarky, biased twists repeatedly. Never criticizes Republicans other than Trump.

But there are a few good analysis programs left on NPR. Terry Gross (Fresh Air) is one of them. For NYers, they also carry a NY state political program each evening which reports on political events in the state.

The Buffalo NPR station, WBFO, has a local daily week day program that runs in the morning and repeats in the evening, called What's Next? It began after the May 14 massacre at Tops market. It is a voice for Blacks in Buffalo to discuss healing and local as well as national changes necessary for the safety, equality, and prosperity of African Americans. As a white person, I gain knowledge and insight from listening to it.

They also give good coverage of current Native American issues, history, and culture.

But, their Morning Edition is usually empty fluff that subtly supports the establishment right. On Point is so disgustingly to the right that I won't listen to it at all. All Things Considered varies from unbiased to the right, depending on the topic.


Mad_Machine76

(24,647 posts)
17. They really started to slide during the Bush 2 years
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 02:50 PM
Oct 2022

and have never really recovered. Sad, really. I was really into it for awhile and then it seemed to get more and more right-wing slanted.

 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
2. NPR has been pushing the red wave sweep for two goddamn
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 02:17 PM
Oct 2022

Years. Lately they have been featuring softball interviews with right wing nutcases like Ralph Reed.

It was bound to be lose lose for Fetterman with that debate and that's why all the bastards pushed for it. Now they can all click their tongues about it. Fetterman was a goddamn champ hero to do that I think people realize that. Fuck that Mara Liasson and the rest of those do nothing pieces of shit beltway critics.

Orrex

(63,561 posts)
3. NPR predicated a 2022 GOP landslide before Biden had finished his inauguration speech
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 02:20 PM
Oct 2022

And they really haven’t let up on that narrative.

I know that some defenders will tell me that I haven’t been hearing what I’ve been hearing for 2 1/2 years, but I don’t care. NPR is, in its way, as dutiful a servant of the GOP as Fox News.

Orrex

(63,561 posts)
37. Their long-format programming is still terrific
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 09:02 PM
Oct 2022

But their signature news programs have really gotten good at carrying water for Republicans.

iemanja

(53,333 posts)
25. One could make that prediction about any off season election
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 03:54 PM
Oct 2022

because that is historically what has happened.

Orrex

(63,561 posts)
36. One could, but why the fuck would one?
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 09:00 PM
Oct 2022

Especially if one purports to be a news organization, and one frames the story in terms of "widespread dissatisfaction with Democrats and their policies" on the first day?

For the record, I don't believe that NPR catapulted that same propaganda with such zeal when Republicans controlled the Congress.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
4. But Oz's inclusion of state legislators in a person's health care decisions gets a full pass
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 02:22 PM
Oct 2022

I keep hearing about this liberal media. Anyone have any ideas on where it can be found?

wnylib

(22,861 posts)
18. What a BS post. NPR's corporate sponsors
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 02:54 PM
Oct 2022

give an establishment right wing influence to many of their programs now.

wnylib

(22,861 posts)
20. I listen so often that I have the schedule of
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 03:03 PM
Oct 2022

WBFO (Buffalo NPR) memorized.

Open your eyes - or ears in this case.

ON EDIT: See my #11.

(And check out what other DU posters say here.)

Orrex

(63,561 posts)
38. You seem not to have listened to it for the past 15 years or so
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 09:20 PM
Oct 2022

I hear it a couple of hours each day as I drive from one job site to another, and the criticism posted here is exactly spot-on.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
39. Dead wrong. I listen daily.
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 09:22 PM
Oct 2022

The criticism could not be more false.

NPR is a national treasure. First rate reporting.

Orrex

(63,561 posts)
40. LOL Not the flagship programs
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 09:29 PM
Oct 2022

Not Morning Edition or All Things Considered, which both have been pitching softballs to Republicans since early in the W administration (at least) while happily taking Democrats to task.

But whatever. I'm sure that the programming that you pretend to hear is real, while the programming that I hear is imaginary.


Who are you trying to impress? If you're part of their social media outreach program, you should tell them to reallocate their resources internally and stop trying to convince people that they aren't hearing what they're absolutely hearing.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
41. Trying to impress? Are you kidding here???
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 09:37 PM
Oct 2022

I don't give a flip.

Coming at me with bogusly invented accusations on ulterior motives on my part tells me all I need to know about you and your affinity to the truth.

Goodbye!

Orrex

(63,561 posts)
42. That sure was a lot of words to say that you can't back up your claims
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 09:40 PM
Oct 2022

Goodbye indeed. I saw through your shtick from your first post, and nothing you posted since then challenges my initial impression.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
48. My nonsense?
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 11:03 PM
Oct 2022

You accused me of being a mole of NPR's stealth social media campaign. LOL

Do you think that make you seem like credible judge of reality?

 

brooklynite

(96,641 posts)
9. So, no NPR, no CNN, no MSNBC, no Washington Post, no New York Times...
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 02:42 PM
Oct 2022

....where are you getting news that's actually investigated by reporters?

Geechie

(880 posts)
16. This for starters (besides DU of course):
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 02:48 PM
Oct 2022

[link:https://floridaphoenix.com|]

“The Phoenix is part of States Newsroom, a national 501(c)(3) nonprofit supported by grants and a coalition of donors and readers.” Partners in most states, especially important in the red state hellscape many of us live in.

[link:https://statesnewsroom.com|]


Geechie

(880 posts)
49. True, but several of the locals have national correspondents and
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 11:15 PM
Oct 2022

it’s free to subscribe - they mostly operate on donations and grant money ..

Coventina

(27,401 posts)
26. I stopped taking them seriously when Cokie Roberts was fellating Bush Jr every day.
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 03:58 PM
Oct 2022


I will never send them money ever again.

wnylib

(22,861 posts)
31. I have not donated to them for 5 years but
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 06:04 PM
Oct 2022

I still get solicitation letters from them.

I recently wrote a letter ecplaining why I will not donate any more and asking them to take me off their mailing list. Have not printed it yet because I am letting it sit a while to see if I want to make any changes. Then I will print it and mail it back to them with their solicitation letter.

Response to wnylib (Original post)

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
28. Have you read any threads about the debate from last night?
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 04:35 PM
Oct 2022

What people have said here is much worse than what I've heard from MSM. I assume people here are not slanted rw.

I have read "political malpractice" to let him debate.

Also, "he's not doing well", "secondhand embarrassment", "difficult to watch"...and much more.

I read all that here.

wnylib

(22,861 posts)
30. I read a newspaper article about the debate.
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 05:59 PM
Oct 2022

It was in a Pennsylvania newspaper, the Erie Times, in Erie, PA. Their reporting was pretty fair. They pointed out that Fetterman brought up the stroke as "the elephant in the room" and that he stumbled a few times, but got his message across. They also reported that his doctor says that he is fully capable of holding office. They mentioned Oz's remarks about abortion including local politicians. I think it's important that a PA newspaper was fair in their coverage. Erie is a Democratic city, although not as solidly as when I lived there.

wnylib

(22,861 posts)
33. PS. Yes, I have read threads here and have
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 06:09 PM
Oct 2022

noticed that most of them that that are not supportive seem disappointed and concerned about the effect on the votes. Not the same as a news station focusing on the negatives without counter balance.

The posts that are blatantly negative about Fetterman? I consider the source and check their profile, which tells me a little about them.

senseandsensibility

(18,358 posts)
35. I am all for media criticism on this site
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 06:27 PM
Oct 2022

and NPR is far from the liberal bastion it used to be. However, it's been rightwing for decades now and cheerled us into the invasion of Iraq. Really, they've been horrible for a very long time.

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
44. They've been right wing for decades now
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 09:43 PM
Oct 2022

I quit listening AND donating after the Bag and Hag (Diane Rehms and Barbara Haggerty) went way--WAY--out of their way to trash John Kerry. The Hag was also notorious for trashing those who weren't jeebus-humpers. Turned out she belonged to some group within her faith of media journalists who had signed up to promote her religion at all costs.

NPR kept her on despite protests. And that's when I stopped donating. I had been a contributor since I had become an adult over 20 years before that, and I had even volunteered at their begathon fundraisers.

Not one cent or second of my time went to them ever again--and I told them why.

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