I don't really think about the British royal family much, but...

[BlueCheeseAgain]

Prince Harry's upcoming memoir has one heck of a title (and cover).

Link to tweet

[LisaM]

1. I am sick and tired of him.

His whole move to the US has been an extended PR tour. We hear more about the "non" royals than the rest of the British royal family combined.

[secondwind]

2. That is true, but they cannot be blamed really, they will attract

attention wherever they go. It must be very annoying to live like this.

[LisaM]

4. Like they had to go running to Oprah with their woes?

Like he had to publish this book? They were going to live on an island in Canada, then it was off to LA for their extended press junket.

[secondwind]

12. He has a right to publish a book.

The same right that you have. Look, this is a young couple with a family, the are not “out there” 24/7.

No matter where they go, they will attract people.

[LisaM]

14. Absolutely.

And I have the right to be sick of his posturing.

[RobinA]

27. I Generally Agree

and was sympathetic to them fleeing England. I am also not anti-Meghan. However, having your face on the cover of a memoir when your father is the King of England is not the route to a calm existence outside the limelight. This book is a massive unforced error and, sadly, will understandably not go over well at home. Harry's a big boy, but when it comes to living in the real world and in another country, I'm not sure his training is up to the task.

[HipChick]

3. There's not much of the BRF

that folks want to hear about.

Same thing happened when Diane was around...

BRF tend to be boring

Predicting this will be a best seller....

[Irish_Dem]

6. Yes he has been a boring disgrace to his family.

One of the most privileged, entitled people on the planet constantly complaining in public how bad his life is.

Harry lives in a $30 million mansion.

The mansion has 18,671 square feet and has 9 bathrooms, 16 bedrooms, and a guest house—not to mention a spa, a gym, an arcade, an outdoor pool, a tea house, a children’s cottage, a tennis court, and a five-car garage.

And all he can do is complain how bad his life is.

[niyad]

8. Do you think that he is a bigger disgrace than his uncle andrew?

[LisaM]

9. That's whataboutism.

This is not about Andrew, who has his own set of issues.

[niyad]

15. It is a legitimate question when one is talking "disgraced" members of

this family.

The vitriol directed at him on this board is fascinating.

[LisaM]

17. I think he(Harry) is an attention hog. This is also current.

I am not defending Prince Andrew and his actions from many years ago, but Harry seems addicted to the spotlight.

[hlthe2b]

29. I have mixed feelings, but I do think that he and Meghan have burned through the good will

extended to them at a rate unparalleled in recent history.


BTW, I note that the title has a clear reference to the English reference "heir and a spare," which is a devastating way to be looked upon I should think. That said, it also has a close synonym, SAVE, which is a poignant alternative. The book publisher certainly has their best PR team on this.

[Irish_Dem]

36. Our own US system has a "spare" for the head of state.

It is called a Vice President.

It is a prudent way to handle succession.

For Harry to consider being called a spare "devastating" is astonishing.

Born into one of the most well known, wealthy and powerful families in the world.

With every privilege and resource available to only a handful of people, and then to be devastated by it
is unbelievable.

Especially to the British taxpayer who funds his life of wealth and privilege.

[hlthe2b]

37. what a tremendous difference in being born to "sparedom" status versus ELECTED

I am equivocal at best about Royalty in the UK (not my decision in any shape or form), but surely you get that distinction? Not at all the same in terms of its impact on a young child. Supposedly Diana went apeshit over some within the inner circle referring to Harry that way. At least she understood.

I'm not saying he was not born into tremendous privilege but living with the "afterthought" status designation reportedly had a big influence on Margaret's long history of alcoholism and other lifetime issues as well as for other "spares to the heirs" throughout history. Does their privilege outweigh that and should we just think them weak "whiners?" Well, I suppose that is in the mind of the observer.

[Irish_Dem]

39. Exactly the point the Brits make about Harry.

He did squat to earn his privilege.

At least an elected official did something to earn his privilege and benefits.

As the Brits say Harry only earned his via the sperm lottery.

And has no appreciation or thanks for the fact hard working Brits pay for his life of luxury.

I have no dog in his hunt, I was raised Irish Catholic and have no love of the British Royal Family.

But right is right, fair is fair.

And I agree with what the Brits say about Harry given the facts. And yes the Brits have the receipts.

Most of what the US knows about the Royal Family is propaganda, for example Prince Phillip was widely
known to have a second family, etc.

But the point is he never tried to bring down the British monarchy and damage the UK.

[Irish_Dem]

40. As the spare, Harry had no duties, no responsibilities and vast wealth and privilege.

All he had to do is be pleasant and loyal to his family.
Maybe shake some hands now and then.

He had everything he wanted.

Never had to worry about food, shelter, clothing, paying bills.
Access to the finest education, homes, cars, recreation.
A whole country kowtowing to him.

And he did absolutely nothing to deserve any of his good fortune.

But all he can do is whine and complain while Brits are trying to pay their heating bills.

[hlthe2b]

41. Like I said, I think he and Meghan have more than outlived

the goodwill extended to them--first in the UK but more recently here. Beyond that this is a British issue as far as I am concerned.

[Irish_Dem]

42. Yep. The Brits are paying the bills for the Royal Family. It is their call.

But since the grifter is now living in the US and bad mouthing our form of government,
Americans have a right to an opinion.

[Irish_Dem]

38. This is nothing compared to what the British forums say about Harry.

I cannot post what they say, I have cleaned it up.

The Brits are also disgusted with Andrew.

They are tired of paying for deadbeat and criminal members of the Royal Family.

[Irish_Dem]

18. Yes more of a disgrace.

I am on a number of British forums.

The Brits talk about how bad Harry is and how the Royal Family covered up for him.

The Brits say Harry is a serious alcoholic and drug addict. As they say about Harry "sniff sniff."
(Cocaine).

When he was in the military he regularly beat up prostitutes and the Army and RF covered for him.

There is more to his history but you get the drift.

The Brits think Harry is much more of a disgrace than Andrew.

Andrew slept with trafficked teenagers, which is a total disgrace.
But never lied about his family for profit. And deliberately tried to bring down his family.

Harry regularly lies and slanders his family for personal gain.

Harry's goal is to bring down the British monarchy which most of Britain loves.
And damage the reputation of Gt Britain.

Additionally the Brits hate Harry for making their beloved Queen's last years hell trying to deal
with her ungrateful grandson. It was a betrayal of the worst kind.

We also know that Harry has been funded by Russian oligarchs.

[muriel_volestrangler]

45. There's a hell of a lot you claim about "the Brits" there that is totally unrecognisable

Pretty much all of it is serious stuff I've never heard anyone claim, and it sounds like your forums are dominating by Qanon types who just make crap up about famous people.

If you want a statement that is actually about "the Brits" in general, rather than "the Brits that inhabit those forums", it would be

The Brits think Andrew is much more of a disgrace than Harry.

There's not much "disgrace" about Harry; just that he's not really worth paying attention to, and whinges far more than his life would entitle him to.

[meadowlander]

19. Is it a competition?

We are talking about someone who went to Halloween dressed as a Nazi, gave his army buddy the nickname "Paki", has nude photos on the internet, drank champagne out of a prosthetic leg, hit a photographer, got drunk and fell in a pool and hooked up with a Real Housewife.

I'm the last person to care what "royals" want to do with their free time as long as it's legal, but from their perspective he's hardly been the poster boy for the Firm.

[Mr.Bill]

24. In that family, I suppose it could be. n/t

[BlackSkimmer]

26. Don't forget calling a French pub owner a "frog" and telling a black comedian, "you don't sound

black." Oh, and the "raghead" comment.

There are more examples than this. Guy's a real prince lol.

[BigDemVoter]

49. I, too, am not much interested in the BRF.

But I find the uncle a much bigger disgrace. Even if he didn't 'rape' the young woman, how disgraceful that a 50-something-year-old man would have sex with a 17-year-old. . . He's a pervert.

[Sympthsical]

16. I was just thinking while on a private jet to an environmental speech

Life is hard, you guys.

Signs contracts for tens of millions for being celebrities.

Complains they're celebrities.

Tch.

[BlackSkimmer]

25. Don't forget all the flights to play polo.

Life must be very difficult for him.

[jrthin]

34. Do you think he's a bigger disgrace than his father, Charles, wanting to

be a tampon in his mistress vj?

[pandr32]

13. I totally agree

[BlackSkimmer]

23. I know.

"Spare" indeed.

Spare us. All of us.

[pnwmom]

50. I'm glad he's exposing them.

The whole concept of a Royal Family, anointed by God, is the essence of narcissism.

Their whole job, which they are born into, is to present an IMAGE to the world. That's what the children of narcissists are expected to do: reflect well on the parent, no matter what it costs them. And for that -- for allowing their souls to be replaced with a carefully managed image -- the members of the Royal Family are allowed to live in luxury.

[Submariner]

5. Harry knows it is Camilla's fault his mother is dead....period

and it has to tear him up inside. He can't escape it.

His insensitive father invited Camilla into the house near the kids soon after their mother's death, before they even fully understood she was the interloper that screwed up the marriage.

If Camilla dod not stick her nose into the Charles/Diana marriage, Diana would not have gotten into a strangers car that night. Charles should be worried about what his pissed off son has to say about dad's treatment of mom.

[LisaM]

10. A stranger's car?

Wasn't that her driver? Her bodyguard was there, too. In fact he was the only one wearing a seatbelt, and he survived.

[niyad]

21. Henri Paul, the driver, was assistant head of security at the Hotel Ritz,

owned by Dodi Fayed's father. It was established later that none of the occupants of the car was wearing a seat belt.

[LisaM]

43. The bodyguard did.

That's why he lived. For the life of me, I don't understand why people don't wear seatbelts.

http://edition.cnn.com/WORLD/9709/21/diana.investigation/

[AngryOldDem]

48. And Paul was drunk.

[RobinA]

30. Oh Sure,

it's the woman's fault. She used her irresistable wiles to stun an innocent married man into committing lewd acts. His will was completely overcome by her come hither glance and flirty hat.

[Haggard Celine]

35. LoL!

[AngryOldDem]

47. Well...no.

Camilla was always Charles’s first love. He was involved with her long before Diana came on the scene. But Camilla was married, then divorced, and older, and at that time the Royals did not approve of such marriages. Also, Charles was under increasing pressure to marry in order to produce an heir, and that is perhaps the main reason why he married the virginal Diana. He never really loved her — recall his “whatever love means” comment in an interview after the engagement was announced — and she was (at the time) acceptable to the family.

Then there was the age difference — Charles and Diana grew apart and she came to resent the gilded cage she was living in. Camilla was also still in Charles’s life — “there were three people in the marriage so it was a bit crowded.”

It was a sad, miserable match all the way around.

From what I have read, both William and Harry have made their peace with Camilla and get along with her politely.

I’m looking forward to reading Harry’s book.

[niyad]

7. The heir( William) and the spare (Harry).

[Ninga]

11. Much to the annoyance of many, Harry had the chops to push back and cries of oh no

could heard throughout the kingdom.

The way Meghan was covered by the British tabloid trash, plus, a British media personality dressing a stuffed monkey in baby clothes when Archie was born, and parading it around as the new “royal baby”, was well, racist and served to stir up the already royally racist British subjects.

Let Harry have his say. In fact, I hope his new book is a success.

[efhmc]

20. Reading a South African story now. The British monarchy is disgusting and needs

to be gone but that will not happen because as with most things which make money it will stay. Charles is an absolutely hideous loser. Poor Diana and her younger son who loved her so much and who was harmed horribly by death and by his wretched father. Why are these anachronisms that we as Americans supposedly got rid of in our country still around? Yes, I am writing about it mostly because I am reading a story that deals with the evils that were done to so much of Africa and others members of the Empire. (And by the way as a Southerner I am aware of own nasty history in this regard.)

[patricia92243]

22. Horrid picture - looks like a "wanted dead or alive" poster.

[MaryMagdaline]

28. Spare is perfect

[Hekate]

31. "An heir and a spare" is what they call having two sons. So if the older one dies, congratulations...

Your brother died, but you get the family business. If the elder brother dies after getting married and having children of his own, then voila, the spare is out of the loop.

Must be swell knowing your only function in life is being there in case your brother dies.

I really don’t get the animosity toward Harry and Megan — or to the royals in general. They are not our problem.

In case anyone hasn’t noticed — we have a lot of ugly problems of our own over here.

[BlueCheeseAgain]

32. I really didn't mean to start anything.

And like I said, I don't know much about the British royal family.

Obviously, in many ways, Prince Harry has led a very privileged life. On the other hand, how much would all of us be willing to give up in order to know that our family loved and valued us as much as our other siblings?

[Hekate]

33. Exactly. Your OP was okay -- but for whatever reason some people get really triggered...

…by any mention of the British Royals.

There’s a lot of royalty left in Europe, but somehow they fly well below the radar of the average DUer.


There remain, as of 2022, twelve sovereign monarchies in Europe. Seven are kingdoms: Denmark, Norway, Sweden, the United Kingdom, Spain, the Netherlands, and Belgium. Andorra, Liechtenstein, and Monaco are principalities, while Luxembourg is a Grand Duchy.

Monarchies in Europe - Wikipediahttps

[Peacetrain]

44. I wish both of them and their children a very peaceful and happy life

I like them..

[phylny]

46. I like him and his wife.

Look forward to reading the book.